sigh, little did i know that right under my nose was the best section as far as topics goes in NF cafe, i usually ignore this section completely, but the top thread today was interesting so i clicked on it, and then went ahead and browsed around. I found the philosphy subforum, and smacked my self in the head; ive been on here as a member for half a year, and as a non member for more than a year and just found this. Oh well, you'll see a lot more of me in this section, because i find philosphoical endeavors to be the most interesting.