When they began claiming Street Levelers are MHS in speed thanks to Cap 'reacting' to a ship crashing into a Star Station during Infinity...they really should have started reevaluating their calcing methods since that doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Not to mention giving feats that have extenuating circumstances to characters to face Naruto's or in hammer's case, being so far behind in Naruto he believes that everyone in Marvel could defeat the Narutoverse I believe.
I posted that Thing and Hulk's movement speed isn't so special, its just their reactions or arm speed, yet...they act like its blasphemy and laugh at it.
Admiral Shujin, Lichtkrieger and I are forming a FC in order to collect more reliable calcs (OBD wiki is not that reliable) and to counter biased OP wanking. Would you have interest of joining us?