Thank you too, I was meant to write a message in it. I wrote a whole rebuttal with scans on why Pain was weaker. The chakra consumption costs and time it would take to summon the 5 toads. Cost a of maintaining the summoning and why Naruto was at an advantage in contrast to Jiraiya. The fallacy of using Panda and it's as stupid as me arguing Preta against Jiraiya's hair.