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2 Remaining Shichibukai Candidates

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by yuLeopard, May 15, 2018.

  1. yuLeopard Pink Haired Pirates

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    Who do you guys think will be the other two Shichibukai revealed during Reverie if the Shichibukai are called to Reverie?

    Right now it's Buggy, Weevil, Kuma, Mihawk and Hancock. I'm going to bet on Arlong as a shichibukai since his special release from Impel Down.

    The other one I would suggest, could be Kuro since he is the smartest man in the East Blue after Ben Beckman. Just like how Buggy lucks upwards, I could see Kuro scamming or plotting his way upwards as a Shichibukai.

    What do you guys will think happen to the Shichibukai? Who will be the new Shichibukai

    EDIT: Question 2. If the they are abolished then who do you think will fill in that spot as added admiral/yonko positions besides Luffy
     
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  2. Samehadaman Well-Known Member

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    I dont think they have any replacements for Law and Doflamingo yet, I'm sure they could get some in time but honestly I think the Shichibukai will be disbanded before they are ever 7 again.
    World is about to be turned upside down and the big wars are about to start. Also there's a lot of internal opposition to the Shichibukai system (pretty much every Marine expressed dislike for them, both absolute justice followers and the soft justice ones), and now with Fujitora there's even an Admiral whose main agenda is ending them.
     
  3. Fel1x Friend of the Grummles

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    Well, probably there will be some new Shichis but I don't think they are needed for the story now. Right now things are on a whole new level
     
  4. yuLeopard Pink Haired Pirates

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    If Fujitora does attribute to the end of the Shichibukai then that would call for an increase in Yonkos and or the 3 Admirals position to balance out the great powers. Which, if Luffy does become an Emperor of the Sea would help, which also leads into:

    IF they get rid of the Shichibukai, how many admirals and emperors are added to compensate for the Shichibukai?

    I think the only one who could really get the upscale promotions are Smoker and Sentomaru. Unless some of the other vice admirals (maybe Momonga) have Oda's interest/specific look based on a famous japanese actor.
     
  5. Samehadaman Well-Known Member

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    The balance is dying in the next week/month in OPverse time, the situation is fluid all around. While the Gorosei are looking at CV's for the next Shichibukai (don't forget the resignations were only days ago), other things will happen that will make the Shichibukai implosion barely a top 5 issue with "balance".

    A Yonko has just been humiliated by a rookie pirate. Kaido is about to fight a war he might lose. Revolutionaries are about to make a declaration. The Reverie itself will likely decide on major changes.

    We may be hundreds of chapters away from it but in OPverse time it's happening now. Over the couple weeks in-universe, Kaido might be gone. Either Blackbeard or Luffy might be at Raftel's gate. Revolutionaries are coming out of the shadows. It's possible Big Mom and Shanks (if he's going to fall to Blackbeard or whatever) are gone too.

    And that's assuming Weevil wasn't also beaten, or Hancock resigned, or Kuma defected or destroyed by then.

    The balance of powers is a Gorosei policy, not a fact of life or rule everyone agrees on. Lots of things don't go how the Gorosei want or expect.
     
  6. Shiba D. Inu #admiralgang

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    Mihawk counts for 3 :nod
     
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  7. Mister LoLz Banned

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    It's either someone absolutely new or noone at all seeing how Fujitora is about to abolish that system.
     
  8. Go D. Usopp Straw Hats Wanker

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    shichi in 2k18 :hestonpls

    but I like Arlong technically replacing the old fishman sichi Jinbe.

    The other one could be a wild card but Oda can put a random one like Enel, but Kuro is also another decent choice as he has this hax ability of convincing and deceiving ppl.
     
  9. Kor Well-Known Member

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    Arlong is fodder now if he ever returned. Got beat by pre-Grand Line Luffy.

    He doesn’t even have the reality bending luck power of Buggy or Ussop.
     
  10. Shrike Let's Baby

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    I think the time of the Shichi is past and that they won't be relevant to the story after we are done with Weevil (imo, Doffy should have been the last one before only Mihawk was left, but whatever). Boa will be an ally in the Final War, and she wasn't doing her duty anyway. Buggy is a literal clown. The Warlords are done for.
     
  11. DiscoZoro20 Ōka Shichibukai

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    Don´t think there are going to be any new shichibukai. They mainly serve to balance out the reign of the yonko but the yonko are about to fall. Also the story is almost over. There are likely only 4-5 arcs left with 2 of them focusing on the war against the government and BB. So there isn´t much room left to introduce new shichi.
     
  12. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    There isn't going to be Warlord System anymore.
    This Reverie will change lot of things. I mean many Kingdoms there has suffered because of Warlords. They aren't going to shut up especially when Issho takes their side.
     
  13. Kobe █▄█▄█ █ █▀█

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    1. Mihawk (arc villain x2 + zoro rival)
    2. Crocodile (arc villain / arc ally)
    3. Gecko Moria (arc villain x2)
    4. Kuma (arc villain x2 + revo)
    5. Hancock (arc ally x2)
    6. Jinbei (arc ally x3 + new crewmate(tbd))
    7. Teach (arc villain + yonkou)
    8. Doflamingo (arc villain x2)
    9. Buggy (arc villain / arc ally)
    10. Law (arc ally x2)
    11. Weevil (to-be arc villain)

    Depends on how much Oda is willing to incorporate them into the story. One thing people are forgetting is that all of the shichibukai so far were (mostly heavily) involved in story. There should be a reason to introduce them with their personality, back story, relationships, unique design and powers etc. However, Oda could choose to make one of the older characters a Shichibukai again, which would save the hassell. Enel would be my pick if he went that route. However, I agree with most people that SB is a thing of past.
     
  14. Edward Teach Well-Known Member

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    Like everyone is saying. The system is collapsing before they get to be 7 again. Doflamingo and Law are not being replaced.
     
  15. charles101 Well-Known Member

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    Why Kuro? All he can do is using Soru, but without any control over it.
     
  16. yuLeopard Pink Haired Pirates

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    Buggy only has a DF and rep. I wouldn't put it past Kuro to get by with rep or train over time
     
  17. DiscoZoro20 Ōka Shichibukai

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    Kuro doesn´t have rep though. The reputation that earned Buggy the title of shichibukai was being a member of Roger´s crew, "helping" in the ID breakout incident and leading a huge group of infamous pirates. Kuro doesn´t have any of this going for him, it´s not the same nor is it "just" rep.
     
  18. yuLeopard Pink Haired Pirates

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    Kuro fooled the marines the entire way from jump and returned back to pirating since he got found out. He is also the second smartest person in the East Blue after Ben Beckman and is smarter than Nami. He definitely has the potential to appear as a manipulator of events or come back as a Shichibukai.

    He also has that hypnosis guy on his team and wouldn't put it past him to orchestrate something big that allowed him to gain more reputation.
     
  19. yuLeopard Pink Haired Pirates

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    Well, Kuro can still have done something over the course of the time skip. Thanks for reminding me though. I forgot about him and Fullbody
     
  20. charles101 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah. Buggy has reputation. Having well known pirate (Pirate King's underling and Yonkou's crewmate!) on WG side rises their reputation as well. People like Mihawk (WSS), Hancock ("Pirate Empress" + even Jora said something like "Stop calling me Boa Hancock", to show how beauty she thinks she is) or Kuma (literally, they're selling merchandises of him) are basically celebrities of OP-verse.

    Law does something wrong - they get rid of him.
    Crocodile does something wrong - they get rid of him.
    Moria does something wrong - they get rid of him.

    Meanwhile:
    Mihawk leaves Marines instead of fighting against Shanks - fine.
    Hancock attacks Marines on MF - fine.
    Kuma saves SHP lives - well, not fine but he's still Shichibukai, just like he wanted.
    Jinbei directly opposes WG and refuses to take part in MF. He's in jail, but when he gets out, FA himself ask him once again if he's sure about that.

    Buggy is in this second category of Shichibukai. His face has value, while Kuro is neither popular nor strong.
     
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  21. yuLeopard Pink Haired Pirates

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    Kuro has the epithet of "Kuro of a Hundred Plans" and is the sole reason why Captain Morgan became a celebrity among Marines. You also forget his resourcefulness.
     
  22. charles101 Well-Known Member

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    Captain Morgan is little shet. I bet that noone in HQ has ever heard about him.

    Zoro is "Pirate Hunter", Robin is "Devil Child", Usopp is "God". Who would be scared of "Kuro of Hundred Plans"?

    Also, what reourcefulness? He wasted a few years to steal money from sick, fragile teenage girl. He could've just steal it.
     
  23. DiscoZoro20 Ōka Shichibukai

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    Yeah sure he has potential but so does Don Krieg who could easily amass a whole armada or Arlong who basically ruled over the East Blue. You gotta look at the bigger picture here those guys are small fries with no serious hype that would currently make them relevant in the Grandline or New World. It´s one thing to be a mastermind it´s another if you lead a crew full of very feared impel down escapees and have connections to the most feared pirate in the One Piece history. It´s a completely different scale. Besides shichibukai are mainly recruited for their individual strength. Buggy is the only exception and only a) because Oda likes him b) it´s meant to be a gag and c) because the Marines and/or world popularity don´t actually know that Buggy is weak.
     
  24. Aduro Definitely not a villain.

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    Maybe Bonney could become one. If her crew is still captured she could try and get their freedom in exchange for a gift to the government and serving as a shichibukai. We haven't seen Uroge for a while either.

    If they replace the Shichibukai as a whole right now it'll probably just be with a small army of pacifista. They're all pretty powerful, their numbers can increase, and unlike pretty much all the shichibukai they can be controlled. None of the pacifista have worked with a yonko crew against the WG. Besides the original who is erased at this point. The current Fleet Admiral and several other key marines absolutely hate shichibukai and there's a lot of evidence that they can't be trusted by now (most notably BB, but to a lesser extent Law, Crocodile, and Donflamingo actively used the title while plotting against the WG).

    Honestly though, the series seems like its slimming down the number of great powers it has. At least two of the Yonko will probably have fallen before the final saga, probably three. The Shichibukai will eventually be divided between the three EoS key players: The Marines, BB and Luffy. Just like they were divided between Whitebeard and the Marines at Marineford.
     
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  25. Avalon The Dark Lord

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    Yeah the Shichibukai system should end after the Reverie.
     
  26. DiscoZoro20 Ōka Shichibukai

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    I don't think Bonney or Urouge are currently shichibukai but pretty much agree with the rest. If there is anyone that can replace the shichibukai system then it's an army of constantly evolving kumas build by Vegapunk. And of course people like Hancock, Buggy etc will cooperate with Luffy in the final war.
     
  27. Big Mom The Sweet Tooth Yonkou

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    The only reason I could see the Shichi system not being abolished is due to the fact that there are now 5 Yonkos, sort of.
     
  28. Jiren the Gohan Number 1 Vegeta Fan

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    Enel and Gin but what if we need even more now with Luffy being a "king" as well
     
  30. yuLeopard Pink Haired Pirates

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    Alright, since a lot of you guys think the Shichibukai system is getting abolished or guaranteed to be right after/during Reverie, who are your candidates for a fourth or fifth Admiral that can counter-balance a "fifth" yonko?

    I would say Smoker, but doubt Akainu would like his track record of disobeying orders. My bets on Momonga if he gets a DF.
     
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