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2x Kisame w/o Samehada vs Kisame w/Samehada

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Shark, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. Shark

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    Kisame is fighting two identical versions of himself that lack their respective Samehada's.

    No restrictions.
     
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    I don't think Samehada doubles his fighting power. He loses to the Samehada-less duo.
     
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    Kisame reks Kisame
     
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    Samehada has an orgasm and dies. 2v1 stomp.:Kisame:kblushvs :kislide


    OT Kisame Duo uses Double Daikodan to counter Samehada and take the W.

    Samehada does not outweigh the rest of Kisame's abilities. Especially enough for a 2x.
     
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    Depends on how chakra loss affects the duo

    If it weakens them like it did SM Naruto, then they win high diff

    If it simply stops them from using ninjutsu, then mid diff

    Dude
    Daikodan is still a chakra construct, why would it counter Samehada instead of the other way round?
     
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    Absorbtion counters Absorbtion! It would still be two big ass sharks crashing into Kisame and chewing him.

    How do you make a word a link like that btw?
     
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    Ahh, it feels good to know something others don't
    Daikodan absorbs chakra, Samehada absorbs chakra

    Daikodan absorbs on contact, Samehada has a small but definite range

    Daikodan can be dodged, Samehada . . .

    Daikodan cant absorb Samehada becuase . . .

    See the next post for the tagging

    So it seems predertemined to me
     
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    Use the 'edit' function



    On mobile, make a post and post it

    Then go to the three lines at the bottom left of the post and select 'edit'

    When you see your post as a pop-up:
    You'll see the links within HTML tags
    You can edit the text of the tag, as long as the details (such as user number) are still the same

    So . . .
    Please to teach me how to make.links of scans?
     
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    Agreed!
    It does have a range but since Samehada can't absorb two things of that size in one swing before they are at point blank range it's kinda moot right?
    Does Kisame have the feats to dodge two things that size?
    While swinging around a sword?


    Nope but the instant two things try to absorb each other they end up with a fat nothing from what we have seen.
     
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    Kisame fuses with samehada and beats both kisames
     
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    Classic cqc?
     
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    Daik┼Źdan is an offensive ninjutsu; its ultimate aim is to incapacitate the enemy - therefore it will damage the enemy (in this case Samehada).
    Samehada is a cheating female.
     
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    We really ran out of idea
     
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    Well there is a point to the thread and it does test some hypotheses.
     
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    I meant during the absorption battle

    Also, Samehada works from range so she eats Daikodan before Daikodan makes contact
     
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    Not always.
     
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    I don't think Samehada can absorb all of Daikodan, it simply takes too much chakra imo.

    And 2 Daikodan are gonna overwhelm 1.

    The Regen doesn't help, 2 Daikodans right on him are one shotting.

    The 2 Kisames win
     
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    You consider a single Daikodan from normal Kisame to be worth more than 3 tails of chakra?

    And even if it is, what are you basing this absorption limit on?
     
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    All chakra absorbtion is chakra based unless proven otherwise lol what else would it be?

    Samehada has a mouth tounge and teeth so it probably can eat normally as well, but eww.

    Anywho, when merged the range is basically 0 anyway as he had to actually tag B to drain him.
    Regardless once the absorbtion nulls each other out there are still to big ass hungry sharks to deal with.
     
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    So it'd pretty much be 2 Kisames (with lower scale Chakra absorption) against 1 Kisame (with higher Chakra absorption)

    I can imagine the 2 winning here.
     
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    Is there any reason to believe Samehada would aid Kisame in killing two other Kisames, or are we forced to disregard Samehada's mindset, @Shark?

    This reminds me of a Jiraiya vs. Naruto scenario, why would the toads even participate?
     
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    Disregard Samehada's mindset.
     
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    All? Based on what?

    If you say ninjutsu classification, okay

    Then i must prove the exception

    When it comes to ninjutsu, it always invlolves some.level of chakra control and cost.
    With Samy this was never even implied

    We were never told of any technique, control or anything related to ninjutsu.

    In the other hand, it was stated to be literal feeding.

    Contrast with Twin Lions, which is shown and said to be a chakra shroud
    Contrast this with Preta, which works through Rinnegan, which is chakra taxing

    And for Preta, one could still make arguement . . .

    But anyway, chakra was described as being sustenance for Samy, just as with food for humans.

    The idea of it being a chakra based ability goes against logic
     
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    If I tried to vacuum up water that was also going down a drain, the two would pull against each other. If the two had equal suction the water simply wouldn't go anywhere. It wouldn't matter that one suction is mechanical and one is gravitational,the suction on the pool is what has an effect.

    Tldr: trying to focus on the how of it absorbing when no difference was stated is irelevant to the action of Absorbtion.

    The wood Dragon and Preta are not the same thing either but they still canceled each other out, for example.
     
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    1. Tue water, in this case, is literally walking into the vacuum.
    This should in fact come down to who can eat who, in which case . . . .
    Two suction forces going toqards each other only serve to pull each other faster. The result depends on which has the bigger mouth. Now since Dai can't take Samy, its the most straightforward result


    2. Did Preta and Wood Dragon properly clash and cancel out on panel?
    I don't remember it
    Wood Dragon doesn't even try to absorb, it merely suppresses
     
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    I believe it was stated that the swords count as half the power of a legendary swordsman, so this is way too close to give an answer i think.
     
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    So Gai defeated 50% Kisame. :maybe

    It seems Gai only defeated 30% and 50% Kisame in his lifetime. :hehee
     
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    Gai badly beat up 50% Kisame with topografical advantage by his own admission, if you want.

    Gai also beat 30% Kisame (who's very close to his 100% given his chakra, even mentioned by the Akatsuki, as he can use the majority of his techs in said mode) in less than 10 seconds when serious, not even going 7 gates.

    Kisame's just below him as i see it.
     
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    If Kisame with Samehada absorbs 50% chakra from each of his dopplegangers then the match is even with advantage to him... no?

    Samehada is a really convenient weapon given certain conditions.

    Only the single Kisame with Samehada has the option (1) to grow stronger from stolen chakra and (2) heal/revive from injuries. Very important parts of battle. He should easily dominate even two of himself.

    The other two Kisames if injured will be out of match or not able to fight properly.

    Even the ultimate attack Daikodan depends on their chakra they have left, Kisame with Samehada will definitely have more than them so his Daikodan will win out and if he has to face two (tall order in itself) he can lessen it's impact with Samehada and rely on it to heal him back.

    The stronger my enemy the stronger I get-

    2xKisame facing Kisame w/Samehada -> 3xKisame

    Kisame just absorbs and assimilates the other two into himself. :gokuyeaboi
     
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    Gai had a match up advantage, and Kisame could create a topographical advantage, he has done so before against Gai himself.

    So it evens out. Gai beat a 50% Kisame w/match up advantage. :hurr
    Is that why, right after the 30% Kisame was defeated, the real one mentioned how the clones only had 30% chakra and their power and jutsu were affected?
    So Gai was playing around when Kisame was gutting him and drowning his subordinates? :hm
    That would have been an embarrassment if he needed the 7 gates for a fodder clone.
    As I see it, V2 Killer Bee is below Kisame. :hurr
     
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