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3 Way Battle: Jiraiya vs. Tsunade/Sakura vs. Kakashi/Naruto

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Sho, Nov 17, 2005.

Who will win between Jiraiya vs. Tsunade/Sakura vs. Kakashi/Naruto

  1. Jiraiya wins

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  2. Tsunade/Sakura team wins

    42.9%
  3. Kakashi/Naruto team wins

    7.1%
  4. No one will win/undecided/draw

    28.6%
  1. Sho Active Member

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    A three way battle between the three groups. Since Jiraiya is a god, I'm only having him by himself. Tsunade has Sakura on her side, so they won't really have to worry about any injuries short of death. Kakashi and Naruto are supposedly the ultimate team that can take out Hokages.

    Who will win?
     
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    im going with undecided, after some thinking, i still cant decide. =(
     
  3. Pride Swerve

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    By the way the only "Hokage-level" (based on other users) they can take out is Itachi, because Kakashi also has the advantage that puts Itachi on that level.

    Undecided.
     
  4. Sho Active Member

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    It would make Kakashi Hokage level as well, according to that logic. Something which he isn't.
     
  5. Pride Swerve

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    No, it just means the advantage Itachi has that puts him on the Hokage level, would be reduced significantly, because Kakashi also has it.

    Like Sasori was a master of puppets. Yet in the end he still lost to an exceptional puppet user, who had the help of an okay skilled medic ninja.

    The advantages he had as a puppet user were reduced, because Chiyo was also a good puppet user.
     
  6. Sho Active Member

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    You saying that Itachi being Hokage level only because of the Mangekyou is unsubstantiated. In fact, it is proven that that's not all he has, considering that even without the Mangekyou, Kakashi said he couldn't handle him. And if you are saying that the Mangekyou makes Itachi a Hokage level, therefore it should make Kakashi Hokage level once he has it. That's clearly not the case. Seeing as how Kakashi is the strongest in Konoha not including Tsunade or Jiraiya, and that Itachi is too much for Kakashi without Mangekyou, that makes him Hokage level. Not to even mention the things we haven't seen from him.

    And just because an opponent's advantages are negated or not, it does not make them any less of a "Hokage-level" or more. That would be like saying Jiraiya is not Hokage level when he faces Orochimaru, but is Hokage level when he faces Kabuto. Or Tsunade being Hokage level if she faces Sakura, but only Jounin level when she faces Kabuto.
     
  7. Pinkaugust I'm Hired

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    must really say Tsunade-team, they can heal and keep fighting, and Tsunade can beat up jiraiya pretty bad I think,.. But then again, who knows?
     
  8. Blue Well-Known Member Supporting Staff Retired Staff

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    Either Tsunade or Jiraiya, Sakura makes no difference whatsoever. Kakashi and Naruto, unless they take major avantage of the situation, get obliterated.
     
  9. Pride Swerve

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    The advantage I was talking about is his Sharingan. And the advantage is not negated, it is reduced. Tell me how it would not be reduced.

    Itachi does have other moves, but you're basing Itachi being Hokage level on the fact that he is stated to be stronger than Orochimaru right? (Well I read one of your posts that states this.) And in my opinion, his mastery of the Sharingan is what helps him achieve this.

    We know Itachi has other moves, but we are uncertain if they put him on Hokage level. They might just keep him on an Elite Jounin level.

    Itachi is still an exceptional fighter without his Sharingan, but then again, so is Kakashi. I just think that his major advantage over other people, is reduced (not negated) by Kakashi having the same (but not on same level) advantage.

    I'm not saying that their ranks are reduced, but just that the Hokage level title would not give him an automatic win over Kakashi who is Elite Jounin level.

    Like Deidara is able to defeat many people because of his long range specialist advantage. He may fight a Hokage level person that has decent long-range, but mainly hand-to-hand skills, and he would have a huge advantage. But then he could fight a Jounin level person that also specializes in long-range. His rank would not be reduced, but he will have a harder time.

    Yes Kakashi stated that he wouldn't be able to handle Itachi even without the Mangekyou Sharingan, but I started this by backing up that Kakashi and Naruto may have a chance.
     
  10. Neut Tread softly & Carry a Big Axe

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    I'm going with undecided too, cuz this looks like one very messy battle. How does it begin? Do the teams decide to stick together or does Naruto and Sakura break off and engage each other?

    Kakashi+Naruto may be in a sticky situation when the Boss Summons come out since there's only going to be one Gamabunta and we all know who he's going to obey (and it's not going to be Naruto). So Jiraiya is going to be Jiraiya + Boss Toad; Team Tsunade will add Boss Slug. The three groups will stand there eyeing each other for an hour deciding who is going to attack first, and who gets it, knowing that the 3rd group will flank the duellists. Two of the groups will make temporary alliances to take out the third. Who's going to get ganged up on? Since Jiraiya = god, they're all going to see him as the ultimate threat and gang up against him, 5 v 2. Or it's a Battle of the Sexes, as the boys gang up in their Icha Icha Brotherhood against the girls. Or Jiraiya may call up Tsunade for old times sake. Or Sakura may appeal to her old sensei and old teammate. What a mess.

    Either way, a gang up will take place.

    If the old pervert gets it, Team Kaka will turn on Team Tsunade. With Team Tsunade in taijutsu range, the girls will tag team Team Kaka into Low Earth Orbit. Victory goes to the girls.

    If Team Tsunade goes down (and they will take a LONG time to go down), the exhausted victors will turn on each other. With chakra history, it'll be an old fashion wrestle to the finish, with Kyuubi Naruto in Sexy no Jutsu the last "man" standing on the edge of oblivion.

    If Team Kaka goes down, it'll be 3 v 2, with Team Tsunade edging slightly ahead of Jiraiya, Sakura being the deciding factor. With the huge chakra and stamina reserves, it might also end up as a wrestle in the mud. The difference being, Jiraiya is going to be dying a very happy man.
     
  11. Chamcham Trigger 光翼型近接支援残酷戦闘機“エヴァッカニア・ドゥーム

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    I'm gonna go with Tsunade and Sakura. Jiraiya is a dangerous one, but he's on his own. Kakashi and Naruto gotta use some really wicked team work on this one to win against a hokage level fighter. Tsunade and sakura seem to have the advantage here. They have a sannin/hokage, with Sakura whose improved a whole lot since the time skip. She may not be Naruto level (A blind guess of course), but she can at least go toe to toe with him long enough for tsunade to some how find a way to win this mess of a fight.

    Sho I have to say that you made a really good matchup. I'm not even halfway confident in my choice :laugh
     
  12. Reznor Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I disagree w/ Sakura makes no difference. Not that I'm saying you are underestimating Sakura, I mean that it isn't as though they both independently attack Jiriaya.

    A ninja's ability aren't just determined by what they can do, it's how they utilize those abilities. Sakura's ability utilization is about Tsunade level, when Tsunade tells her what to do.

    Although, I concede that Sakura is just a less powerful Tsunade, so she doesn't bring anything new to the table.

    On top of her being useless in a summon battle.

    Jiriaya would probably be smart enough to make it a summon battle to negate that advangtage of Tsuande's, which he would win then, IMO, because Jiriaya has better summons.

    But if Tsunade can find a way to end the summon battle in a draw, her and Sakura may beat Jiriya (I give them 70-30 odds)

    If Jiriaya doesn't participate, and it is just Tsunade and Sakura v. Kakashi and Naruto, however, that's a close call. Tsunade is the uberest there, but Kakashi has a better tool, who's abilities are different from his own. Additionally, Gamabunta > Kitsuya.
     
  13. Freakness Cry, Benihime !

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    I'd have to go with Tsunade and Sakura .
    Naruto makes no difference here if you ask me, If he goes 1 or 2 tails Kyuubi, Jirayia just seals right away . Therefore, Kakashi and Naruto are out of the game . It's then between Tsunade and Sakura VS. Jirayia . This one is pretty simple, It's a 2v1, Jirayia would win it only if he outsmarts them in a really good way, which is kind of hard, since he is facing a Sannin too . Tsunade and Sakura for the win .

    Edit- Btw , I have to add, that in a case Kakashi + Naruto take out Sakura, Then the results will be different . Actually, If Kakashi and Naruto would fight really smart, then I do not know how will it end . Could be Jirayia, but could be Kakashi and Naruto also . A tough call .
     
  14. Bosch Banned

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    Jiraiya takes the cake.
     
  15. Uzumaki~Kakashi Tomoyo's #1

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    The way I see this one is that team Kakashi could do major damage against either team Tsunade or Ero-Sennin. However I don't think they would have enough to take on the remaining team. So team Kakashi should do minimal attacks and wait for Tsunade or Ero-Sennin to fall. However I think that Tsunade and Jirayia would just team up and knock them out first. But with so many variables I think it would be difficult to pick a winner.

    Harem no jutsu(Naruto style)+Harem no jutsu(Kakashi style) > Ero-Sennin.
     
  16. CooLMooCoW Live and Let Live

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    I say Team Tsunade has the best chance of winning.

    Kakashi alone isn't on the level of a sannin and with Naruto potentially having the Kyuubi chakra sealed by one of the sannins anytime during the fight, it's questionable if Team Kakashi has the firepower to beat Jiraiya let alone Tsunade with Sakura supporting her from getting into a full 2 on 1 situation.

    It would be a bit more of a toss-up if it came down to Jiraiya vs. Team Tsunade since Sakura wouldn't be much help offensively in the fight. But they still have a greater chance of winning since Sakura can simply play the role of medical nin and heal Tsunade in between breathers during the battle.
     
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