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4th Raikage Vs Oro

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by JuicyG, May 17, 2018.

  1. JuicyG Well-Known Member

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  2. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    Going for oro here
     
  3. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    His only method of combat is Taijutsu, which is easily the worst way you can fight somebody like Orochimaru who has a ridiculously high durability and pain threshold. Having said that, there certainly is a limit as to how much Orochimaru can regenerate - the regeneration technique requires a lot of chakra and Orochimaru's stamina and chakra reserves aren't as high as Ē who can likely go on for longer. But then, we've seen Orochimaru has other ways of reforming, such as simply 'putting himself back together' like he did against the four tails. Simply put, Ē has no way of defeating Orochimaru. He can continuously pummel him, but Orochimaru can just come back, the man was able to survive being torn in half and getting a large sword put through his torso, a few powerful punches isn't going to hurt him much. All Ē can do is just punch him and hope that it works.

    Orochimaru on the other hand . . . has plenty of ways to hurt him. The normal Kusanagi should be enough to pierce through Ē's Raiton no Yoroi and hurt him, but the attack is quite linear so Ē shouldn't have any trouble evading it. So counter this, Orochimaru will have to create openings with jutsu such as Mandara no Jin (it should overwhelm him and make it hard for Ē to see Orochimaru) or normal snakes. His wind based jutsu would work well also, due to it's elemental advantage.

    As for alternative methods, Orochimaru can call upon the White Snake form if necessary (releases poison gas when there is a cut, which should affect Ē and can attack with poison snakes, is also able to reform after being chopped into pieces) or the Yamata no Orochi transformation which is said to have regenerative abilities surpassing that of the White Snake.
     
  4. Orochimaruwantsyourbody Well-Known Member

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    Orochimaru will have a difficult time attacking Ei due to his speed, while Ei can land attacks relatively easily. Orochimaru can regenerate the damage Ei inflicts for a long time before running out of chakra. Orochimaru has Clones, Genjutsu, underground, and snake attacks to land surprise hits. Ei’s options are limited to beating Orochimaru to death as many times as needed to exhaust his chakra. Then, there are Orochimaru’s whitesnake poisons that Ei doesn’t have a counter for if brought out.

    Orochimaru’s got it.
     
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    Orochi either outlast or poisons A via his true form and then he finishes off A
     
  6. Prince Idonojie Well-Known Member

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    Say something repeatedly enough times and people will buy it as truth.

    Once upon a time, the 4th Raikage was called a simple-minded idiot because the first impression of him was that of an angry man seeking revenge on Sasuke whom he presumed killed his brother. A simple-minded Idiot cannot be the governing authority of large and heavily militant city. A simple-minded idiot won't be trusted by 4 other nations—who know his reputation—as their General Commander in a world war.

    The Raikages are often said to be too limited (CQC only) but ladies and gentlemen, I want to remind folks that they also range options. Shocking right? The 4th Raikage used range lightning in Gokages final attempt to defeat Madara. I would like to propose that a Raikage with a large chakra lvl on par with a Tailed Beast, who specialises in lightning style must have range lightning equal to or greater than that lightning blast Kakuzu fired at Ino and Choji (and Kakashi struggled blocking with double Raikiri).

    The 3rd Raikage passed on that fancy Black lightning (that creates panthers n stuff) also.


    What I'm saying is simple. The 4th Raikage knows Orochi's style (which major militant authority doesn't at this point). Why would he easily expose himself to his devices?
     
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  7. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    True, but in what way does the Raikage threaten Oro's regen, or his obvious style advantage against CqC's? His limited use of range raiton ninjutsu isnt going to overcome Oro and his vastly superior ninjutsu arsenal
     
  8. Skaddix Well-Known Member

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    Its 20 m..Orochi has no time to cast anything and will eventually run out of chakra to do anything.
     
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    Orochimaru isn't going to just let himself get blitzed over and over again until he runs out of chakra...

    He has plenty of options to deal with the Raikage's speed:
    • Blocking line of sight with Formation of Ten Thousand Snakes. The snakes could overwhelm the Raikage and potentially bind his movements, similar to how Orochimaru subdued Enma with Striking Shadow Snakes - also an option under the right circumstances.
    • Standing on top of a large snake (e.g., Manda or Aoda) so he's not within a short blitz range on the ground.
    • Confusing, or potentially binding, the Raikage with genjutsu (Orochimaru has a 5 in the Databook).
    • Hiding underground with Earth Release or melding into the environment with Leech All Creation.
    • Using Shadow Clones as distractions / feints.
    • Using Wind Release from a distance to keep him at bay, or to disable the Lightning Armor.
    • Unleashing his Eight-Headed Serpent Technique, which is far too large and powerful to be threatened by the Raikage's offense. Remember: it harnesses the regenerative powers of the White Snake, and was not even remotely threatened by having half of its heads chopped off or when Orochimaru was stabbed through the chest.
    • Assuming his White Snake Form, which can survive being chopped into pieces, and whose neurotoxin blood vapors would paralyze the Raikage.
    Offensively, Orochimaru can
    • disable the Raikage's Lightning Armor with Wind Release.
    • cut or stab him with The Kusanagi.
    • potentially seal/disrupt the Raikage's chakra with his Five-Pronged Seal or another sealing technique.
    • poison him with his Curse Seal or snakes if the Lightning Armor is disabled.
    • use any above method when the Raikage is paralyzed from the White Snake's poison.
    The only way for Orochimaru to lose this fight is to not do anything. He has so many ways of dealing with the Raikage it's not funny.
     
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  10. Ghost Of The Uchiha Well-Known Member

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    Oro probably poisons him or ends him with Hydra, Manda and other boss snake summons, doubt A4 has many attacks that can force him to use Oral Rebirth.
     
  11. Skaddix Well-Known Member

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    You act any wind release can disperse the Shroud that is not really true. Assuming Ei is roughly the same as his Father's then nothing short of Rasenshuriken is going to cancel it and Orochi has nothing close to Rasenshuriken even if you think Ei's shroud is weaker so yes I think at 20 m, Orochi gets pretty much blitzed into the ground without doing anything.
     
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    Raikage should win.

    Sasuke's Full Powered Chidori barely nicked Ei and Enton didn't harm him until he chose to sever his own arm.

    Orochimaru has no technique with concentrated power on the level of those techniques, or above them which is what would be necessary to kill Ei.

    Orochimaru simply has no means to circumvent his durability nor the speed to land the attacks to begin with.

    Only option here is abandoning his host body and trying to poison Ei with his blood when he's wounded. A highly OOC move as Orochimaru abandoning a host and living 3 years as a frankenstein collection of snakes is probably worse than dying for him.

    It should be noted the run and gun smash assault was effective against Orochimaru before. Tsunade knocked him out cold after a couple jaw shots and forced a retreat, and that was when her power wasn't at her peak during that part of her career (Years without taking on a mission, lack of training, booze binges and living as a gambling addict only).
     
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    A wins in my opinion. He matches up on par with a version of Sasuke who to me seems decisively superior to Orochimaru at that point. Orochimaru refers to a previous version of Sasuke as being more troublesome than himself. A isn't significantly superior or anything however I do think that he is > Orochimaru.
     
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    this surpasses a Chidori (which managed to hurt the Raikage) for far.
     
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    Oral rebirth>Taijutsu
    Poison>Raikage's durability
    Kusanagi>Raikage's armor

    Oro wins.
     
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    Raikage wins this eventually.
     
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    I used to think Kusinagi lived up to the hype as well, but what has it really done to justify it? In this very scan Kusanagi fails to bypass Kn4 Naruto's defenses, where as Chidori variants have:

    -Pierced and cut through Gyuki's tail

    -Cut through V2 Jinchuriki's limbs
     
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    Ay is far too durable for anything Orochimaru has

    I never really understood the hype for Orochimaru round these parts.

    His best feats involved getting his shit pushed by an early part 2 Naruto and Sasuke


    That puts well beneath the likes of the (male) Gokage


    People are too much under the impression that Orochimaru is literally immortal and conventional means have no affect on him, that is dead wrong and shown throughout the Manga that he's at best, a cockroach.
     
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  19. Skaddix Well-Known Member

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    Yeah orochi regen has a cost a rather high cost of chakra...it is not a passive regen effect that cost him basically nothing to keep doing. Ergo Ei applies pressure and keeps it up until Orochi has no more chakra to spend on Oral Rebirth.
     
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    So what ? Gyuki tails have trash feats durability anyway.
    That was Raiden which is a Raikiri variant which is superior to the Chidori.

    OT: Orochimaru wins this high difficulty.
     
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    Orochimaru can probably feint him by playing dead after the first hit then biting him with his sealing techniques. If that doesn't work he can probably still take a lot of hits before dying anyway, which gives him plenty of opportunity to try and poison A. He also has Yamata no Orochi and other snake summons to rely on as well to give him extra support

    Orochimaru wins :catshrug
     
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