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A single Admiral is enough to take care of 2 Yonko.

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Extravlad, Jun 8, 2018.

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  1. Extravlad Well-Known Member

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    Canon.

    Kizaru on his own was gonna be sent to handle Kaido+Big Mom.

    But Admirals are only First Mate levels according to haters.
     
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  2. Astro Indubitable Moderator

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    Correction. A single Admiral is enough to stop the autistic MUM & her fleet from arriving at her destination. On another note Kizaru is fearless asf.
     
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  3. Louis-954 Well-Known Member

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    That’s not at all what that scene is implying.
     
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  4. Sherlōck High Functioning Sociopath

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    Yeah, no.

    But he is strong enough to butt in & dissolve the alliance either by threat or a show of force by marine.
     
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    This is exactly what this scene is implying.

    It even confirms that Shichibukai (Mihawk) and Admirals can beat Yonko.
     
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  6. Seraphoenix Withering away

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    Even if Kizaru thought he could, that doesn't mean that he can :tupac

    Character statements are not canon statements :mjlol
     
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  7. Louis-954 Well-Known Member

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    Can defeat A Yonko =/= Can waltz into Wano and solo both of them by himself with zero support and their entire crews there as back them up like what you seem to believe.
     
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    Kaido was going to MF to fight Whitebeard without a thought about Admirals and the Marines being there so I guess he can take on the entire World Government.

    Shanks arrived at MF to take on the entire Marines too if they didn't oblige.

    Glad we sorted that out vlad. :tupac
     
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    Not everything is about myz admiralz beets yuor yonks or my yonkz beatz yourz admiralz.

    Kizaru was not going to go and take on two yonkos and their crews just on his own. It most likely would have been attempt to somehow disrupt the meetings by somehow causing chaos and friction.

    Not to mention we’ve seen Jack try and take on two admirals to free Doflamingo as well. Doesn’t mean he succeeded and it doesn’t tell us much how he fares against two admirals even if he thought of taking them on. Even if we argue he’s more reckless.
     
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  10. GrizzlyClaws Big Bad Grizzly

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    What I said in another thread.

     
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    Exactly.

    At least we know how bad vlad would be as a commander. He'd send all his men on a suicide mission :mjlol
     
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    >anyone soloing 2 yonko

    lulvlad

    but it does defo add to the hype of the admirals; proves kizaru is completely fearless too :catstalk
     
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    Vlad: “Don’t worry gaiz, I can solo.” :hestonpls
     
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    You guys do realize they referred to admirals and shichibukai in the same vein?

    Kizaru volunteering himself, 1 admiral, implies that they think that someone like Buggy, 1 shichibukai, would also be sufficient enough to stop the meeting.

    In other words, the quote was a joke, because neither a single admiral nor a single shichibukai is capable of stopping a meeting between 2 yonko. Lmfao.
     
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    Why would Kizaru go alone? Of course he would take a strong crew with him.

    I don't recall Sengoku going alone to confront Roger-Shiki.
     
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    A “strong crew” of what exactly?? No one outside of the Admirals are really worth a damn in combat against a 400+ bounty.

    Right... his support was Garp, Aokiji and Kizaru.

    Who is Kizaru going to take with him? Smoker? :lmao Fujitora, Ryokugyu and Garp are at the Reverie.
     
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    Fucking love you Vlad :hestonpls


    OT: I've always maintained that NO-ONE ever, past or present can take on two top tiers at the same time and this is no different. They're just too strong & lethal.

    Don't think Kizaru was planning on taking both out at the same time at any rate ..... maybe one if he had no choice (though he'd be fucked right after it) but it's more that his presence there would be enough to deter a meeting between two Emperors as they'd be reluctant to fight an Admiral themselves. Well maybe Kaido wouldn't given his reckless personality.
     
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    Kizaru can take the two candidate to become Admirals and if you are considered for the position of Admirals it means you're strong but I don't think that they're enough.
     
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    Kizaru>Akainu :maybe

    Kizaru is hiding his true strength. Don’t let his trollish behavior fool you!
     
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    Do you think Akainu would just let Kizaru go alone? Of course he would provide a powerful crew.

    Chaton, Momosagi, Smoker, Spider VA etc.
     
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    Chaton and Momousagi are at guarding the base of the Reverie. Lol Smoker. :lmao

    So you give Kizaru Smoker who is notoriously shit at following orders and Onigumo. I’m sure the three of them, a battleship or two, and a couple thousand fodder is sufficient enough to defeat two Yonko and apprehend the entire Strawhat crew. :lmao That’s all before even taking Wano’s own military force into consideration.

    Sending anything short of two admirals and a buster call (10 warships abd your top 5 VA’s) to Wano is practically suicide.

    The marines are severely outgunned here. Not only outgunned, but outgunned in uncharted enemy territory.
     
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    Vlad farming those tier specialist ratings :hestonpls

    He obviously can't take out 2 top tiers at the same time. Albeit Kaido vs. Kizaru could go either way.
     
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    Gohara has been gone from telegrams ever since Reverie began. :hestonpls
     
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    I am talking about a scenario where they can go. If Akainu orders them to go they will.

    So Smoker is intentionally not going to follow superior's order while facing two Yonko? Make sense.

    I mentioned 4 VA & etc. Each VA can command two BC ships. Assuming 4 VA goes with Kizaru that is 9 warship easily there. You can add more warship if you increase the number of VA.

    And I never said anything about defeating two Yonko & SH crew. Don't put words in my mouth.
     
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    First Mate level my ass. Kizaru was fully confident he could bust that situation up, and Akainu only refrained from sending him because Wano
     
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    So, you need Admirals or Shichibukai to interfere with Yonko Operations. That's pretty consistent with their being three equal powers in the world.

    But I'm not so sure the interpretation here is right. Akainu was NOT talking about intercepting and deterring. Borsalino asked to go to Wano. That makes sense as while you can't chart Linlin's course, you know where she's going, so just go to Wano. Now Sakazuki simultaneously said we don't know how strong they are but obviously was scared of the Samurai. Ever since Wano was introduced properly it was stated that the World Government hasn't fucked with them explicitly because they had a strong enough military to repel them.

    There's a lot of ambiguous shit here. Borsalino clearly isn't scared of Yonko per say but he's also apparently ignorant of the samurai threat. The Vice Admirals on the other hand clearly believe that an Admiral or a Shichibukai can in fact intervene on this matter. I'm not sure that there's been anything clear said here.
     
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    If you want to get serious about it, what this means is:

    1) For regular joe the powers are Admirals, Shichibukai and Yonko, even if realistically the reader knows some/most Shichibukai are much weaker as individual fighters (and even on panel we have seen Yonko and Admirals talk down on Shichibukai, such as Kaido and Akainu, on top of actual fights that happened and Shichibukai lost).
    2) Kizaru isn't afraid of encountering Yonko.
    3) Akainu isn't overconfident/reckless, and won't send an Admiral to an independent country of unknown military strength where two Yonko forces are gathering on top of a Supernova invasion and having no intel of the specifics of the situation.

    Mostly only relevant for the Goharas and Seras of this world, nothing that remarkable as far as common sense goes.
     
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    Well it's not like Kizaru wanted to go with the intentions of destroying the Big Mom and Best Pirates... he just wanted to stop their alliance.

    Hell it might have been better to send him to sail around Totto Land so Big Mom won't leave knowing Marines are at her door.
     
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