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A4 vs Sannin

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Orochimaruwantsyourbody, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. Orochimaruwantsyourbody Well-Known Member

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    Location: Sannin Battlefield
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    Ei starts in V2
     
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    SM Jiraiya reacts, counterattacks with Goemon/a penetrative enough Sage Art.
    Byakugo Tsunade physically reacts, and negs him. She's cannonically implied, and feat-wise, shown to be on par with V2 Lightened EĪ, that's superior to V2 EĪ.
    Senjutsu chakra-amped Orochimaru, with both arms, physically reacts to all versions of EĪ, bar V2 Lightened EĪ, and puts up Rashomon, Snake Barricades, or exudes Neurotoxins, that instantly paralyze him, and worst case scenario- kills him within 9 seconds, max.

    Individually, they give him around high difficulty, and wins more times than not.
    Together, they roflstomp.
     
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    A4 is too fast and too durable for the Sannin and they have no attack that will hurt him and they can't outlast him.

    :hurr
     
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    A4 loses here....the Sannin are just too strong. He isn't blitzing SM Jirayia who already has decent speed in Base which is now heavily enhanced by SM and now has enhanced reflexes and sensing on top of that with Ma and Pa who can create LoS Blockers in a near instant. He also has to deal with Yamata with is a large Hydra Snake comparable in size to Boss Summons who also happens to have Paralyzing Blood and all the ninuustu his normal self has which all have the potential to be amped by Tsuande who has hax regen.


    What most likely happens is that A4 blitzes Oro get's paralyzed and get's hit with a SCOR amped by Tsunade
     
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    Oro solos.
     
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    So first you're Turrin, and now you're SuperSaiyaman12? :hm
     
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    Sannin...as a team?

    Yeah they wreck low diff
     
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    Any one of them solo.
    They are above him
     
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  10. Ishmael I'd rather you hadn't seen that.

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    I don't see any reacting to their speed, but durability wise, oros the most durable, he'd tag tsunade and definitely jiraiya in a solo fight. same for oro but that immortality helps him deal with damage dealt.

    3v1 they wreck though, not much of an debate.
     
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    While I believe as a trio they're overall stronger than Ay (3 Sannin working together=High Kage) Ay is just a nightmare matchup for them, they can't do anything about his Raiton armor durability and they can't react to his speed, especially not Jiraiya who's reactionary feats are laughable at best, and the worst out of any kage level at worst.


    Ay runs a train on them low diff
     
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    Sannin as a team = Top Tier.

    Individually = High Kage (including how well they can be as a support as well)

    A4 has to go at least high diff against any of them if not outright losing.
     
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    A starts in V2?

    25 meters away?

    Against the Base Sannin?

    A blitzes them all individually, since he starts in V2 and they all start in base, hes turning this into a 2v1 with his opening goddamn move.

    None of these characters have the feats to deal with V2 speeds, so once the first character is dead its a matter of time until number 2 goes down.

    This is honestly the same thing as asking BSM Naruto vs the Sannin...The speed gap is that fucking real.
     
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    A4 wins this match. They have no feat to suggest they are reacting to his blitz. Tsunade goes out first. Base jiraiya is never going to react to his blitz. Sannins may have great team work and jutsu but A4's speed is too much for them
     
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    A could prolly blitz one of them but no matter what he does he’s not gonna put down Orochi and once Orochi uses his true form, A is gonna get poisoned and finished off. Best A can do is take out a member of the Sannin but between Orochi and Tsunade or Jiraiya, A loses more times then not
     
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    People actually think A can solo the Sannin? Lol
     
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    Why do people think Orochimaru uses his true form for combat purposes?

    He only uses it for body snatching.

    Whenever you feel like it list their feats that enable them to react to V2 Ay. Ill wait.

    Wait I'll list them off myself

    Jiraiya: Best reactionary feat is non existent, he's consistently displayed low tier reactions. Couldn't react to Asura path even after he announced his presence.

    The same Asura that noob SM Naruto shitblitzed.

    Orochimaru: Dodging Kn4 arms BARELY. And KN4 is known to be supremely slow.

    Tsunade: Best feat is non existent.

    None of the Sannin bar Oro have displayed anything that would enable them to react to Ay. Yes as a unit they're portrayed superior to Ay, but matchup is a thing.

    Jiraiya dies immediately.

    Tsunade and Oro burn up their reserves spamming Oral Rebirth and Regen.

    Ay pins them both to the ground by their necks and beats their heads in until they run out of chakra.
     
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    Then do you mind providing the sannins reaction feat to suggest they can react to A4?
     
  20. JuicyG Well-Known Member

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    First of all, in no right mind is 4th Raikage portrayed as someone who can beat the entire Sannin group. For fucks sake, he wasn't even the most impressive of the Gokage and one of them included a Sannin (Tsunade; who out performed Ay).

    At 25 meters, its certain that the use of Tōton Jutsu (transparency jutsu) smoke bombs, clone diversions, and other tactics will be used to avoid a linear blitz from that distance. Both Orochimaru (while utterly sick) and Base Jiraiya was apparently able to handle Kn4 strikes (which isn't massively different) - (with Jiraiya who was obviously avoiding to hurt Naruto on top of that). And that they are altogether here as a team, the Sannin rather simply are able to mask their whereabouts, bring forth summons, and win the fight. (Hell Jman just has to place a chakra sealing tag and its over right now)
     
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    Irrelevant to the discussion. If you want to talk about portrayal then A4 have higher portrayal than the sannins as he is a kage, you know the leader of a village that houses the 8 tails jin who can stomp the sannins. So don't bring up portrayal when they don't have the feats to enable them to beat A4
    The minute the fights starts, A4 goes for the blitz. They are not seeing him or reacting to him as sasuke who has better reaction than them and he is faster them could not see and react to him. This strategic will not work or will work at the expense of A4 blitzing one of them. They are just delaying the inevitable
    KN1 Naruto blitz orochimaru, so oro is not reacting to A4 talk less of BASE jiraiya. KN4 Strikes are not comparable to A4 strikes, and none of them is tanking lariat except oro
    You don't understand, they are not going to be able to move or run away or summon if they can't react to his blitz. You are saying they would throw smoke bomb or clone diversion but they have to be fast enough to react and see him coming or move. They can't see him moving then how can they use clone diversion or smoke bombs
     
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    Its only irrelevant if you don't want to discuss the actuality of it. Ay is not beating a group of individuals that included one he was downright out performed by. Being a 'kage' doesn't suddenly eclipse the Sannin title unless you think Hokage Kakashi > Jiraiya in portrayal (L O L).

    Good for Ay, he can run as fast as he can to attack ONE of the Sannin, (who wont die from it) while the other two do as I listed previously.

    You throw the word "blitz" around freely I see. Maybe the post the scans to illustrate your reasoning for the looseness of the word.
     
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    It's irrelevant since none of the sannins have the reaction or speed feats to react to his blitz
    He has the title and feats that places him above the sannins
    Who won't die from it? All of them will die except oro
    A guy who was too fast for a superior opponent to track and see and a guy that blitz that opponent yet you say am using the term loosely?
     
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    A wouldn't defeat any of the Sannin one on one, let alone three vs one. He gets overwhelmed and killed without putting up much of a fight.
     
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    Sannin wank is aids.

    You didn't list any feats that would suggest they can react to those speeds.

    Tsunade outperformed Ay in the Gokage fight due to support capabilities

    Strictly as a fighter she was the WORST performing Kage.
     
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    Ei blitzes one at start battle, the only one capable of surviving is Orochimaru who he might attack but he probably goes after Tsunade first because she's the medic and can empower them, her face is imploded.

    The other two should disperse and bring out summons once they realize Ei's speed is on an entirely different level.

    Jiraiya gets into SM and ends it with Frog Song as Ei beats on Orochimaru and their summons.

    Manda, several other boss snakes and Gamabunta are killed before that happens. Oro might go down after the summons before SM is entered, and Frog Song is completed.
     
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    • Where is the evidence that rightfully suggest Ay's attacking strength is a one shot kill here? Especially to the likes of Tsunade & Orochimaru?
    • Where is the evidence to suggest that with Manga knowledge the very first action wouldnt be to block Ay's LoS?
    • Where is the evidence to show that Ay can land an attack before any of them is able to even move a single muscle fiber?
    • Where is the evidence that Ay 4 attacks are >> KN4 attacks?
     
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    Dude talks about wankers as if he isn't a one of the biggest bonafide wankers the forum has ever seen ...classy.
     
  29. MawDezrtarsh22 Read my name....slowly

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    Nobody is saying this.

    In fact just the opposite.

    I stated that the Raikage simply beats on those two until they exhaust.

    Because only Tsunade has a good amount of knowledge on Ay, and she has NO LoS blockers, and Ay isn't the type to sit around and let his opponent strategize.

    Dont FUCKING do that.

    I asked for a feat that indicates the Sannin can react to him

    Burden of proof is on YOU, Ays feats speak for themselves.

    Blitzing a Mangekyo wielder, literally straight REACTING TO AND DODGING AMATERASU

    Nearly blitzing Minato, his fist an inch from his head, Konohas yellow flash BARELY escaped with his life, and only due to Hiraishin.

    NOW YOU SHOW ME THE SANNINS FUCKING FEATS THAT SUGGEST THEY CAN HANDLE THAT LEVEL OF SPEED.
     
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