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Aids is a Myth!

Discussion in 'Perspectives' started by Hi Im God, Oct 24, 2006.

  1. Hi Im God Active Member

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    Don't neg rep me pls, title is for grabbing attention onry, I don't have a fomulated opinon on the subject I just found out that there is a huge following of AIDS denialists' (a derogetory term to them). Interesting enough for a discussion?

    1) HIV cannot be proven to cause AIDS in 9 out of 10 cases.

    2) Malaria, Flu, Parasitic infection, Pregnancy all cause false positives.

    3) The HIV test is only %30 accurate in western medical settings.

    4) 25 men who were HIV positive gave semen samples, only a single virus footprint was found in over 25,000,000 cells. Sexual transmission of HIV is actually surpirsingly rare.

    5) 2 high risk groups amount to over %97 of domestic infections.

    6) Heroine users exhibity a near identicle detioration and acquire the same tell tale secondary infections even when HIV is not present.


    The problem with HIV/AIDS is that nobody is asking any questions. You can't say hold on wait a second while Oprah and Bono are releasing the opposite message. You can't question the HIV/AIDS theory without being evil in the eyes of just about everyone.

    First of all a long video.
    Mors Principium Est - Altered State Consciousness



    Anyway. I don't know much on the subject but I thought it might be a good discussion to those that do know.

    More articals to follow...
     
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  2. Hi Im God Active Member

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    A lengthy artical
    Contin...
     
  3. Hi Im God Active Member

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    from above.
     
  4. Hi Im God Active Member

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    Siya <- another film.
    Link removed


    Another artical.
    Spoiler:




    Spoiler:


     
  5. That NOS Guy The Pilot Who Lives by Pride

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    Wait, you're arguing that since someone is arguing that the link between HIV and AIDS is weak/nonexistant that AIDS is a myth?

    Spend some time with AIDS patients, then kindly die.
     
  6. Dark Travis Konoha's White Stain

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    Clearly you didn't read what he wrote before on how this isn't his opinion or arguement
     
  7. Doc. Q the grim reaper of threads

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    Your a Newb! and therefore your opinions are nothing!

    I will however argue this, what do you mean by AIDS being a myth, that you can't get it through HIV, or that you can't get it at all?
     
  8. Yoshitsune Melamonochromatic

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    You just quadruple-posted on something that seems ignorantly interesting....>_>

    I'm a doctor, so I'm going to continue to research this topic~
     
  9. Hi Im God Active Member

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    lol
    Like I said I don't know much on the subject but apperently theres two sides so I thought I would just start a subject throw in some related articals and see where it goes.
     
  10. CrazyMoronX Old Man

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    Do people even read first posts anymore?
     
  11. Yoshitsune Melamonochromatic

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    The video is interesting~
    It's always good knowing both sides of the issue~

    It's annoying how some common causes for AIDS was listed as being homosexual.....why not just outright write the word "anal intercourse" ?
     
  12. Beo InuKage

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    You really need to be more careful about how you phrase things.:)


    Doesn't seem like it.
     
  13. Hi Im God Active Member

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    Too many characters!!!


    Anyway. This is a post that kinda inspired me to bring this debate to this site since i've seen a few intense scrupulation of sientific fact here before. I had no idea about the two diffrent views and the people get heated up faster then a cpl of evolutionists/creationists bumping uglies.


     
  14. That NOS Guy The Pilot Who Lives by Pride

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    Clearly you didn't read the thread title.
     
  15. Beo InuKage

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    clearly you didn't read his first sentence.
     
  16. Yoshitsune Melamonochromatic

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    I'm liking this video :)

    Change your thread title to gain more attention~
    HIV =/= AIDS
     
  17. Hi Im God Active Member

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    lol obviously the title is working since it's garnering so many posts about it (not necessarily the right kind of attention) but yeah I can't edit it that I can notice so I bolded the opening.
     
  18. That NOS Guy The Pilot Who Lives by Pride

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    I was too busy looking at the article by the good doctor.

    I generally skip commentary when articles are posted, especially when it's by someone of pretty much no notation. But let's skip this shit and move on.

    The mountains of evidence for HIV being the virus that causes AIDS are in my support.

     
  19. Beo InuKage

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    that is way too long, give us the gist of it.
     
  20. ez Jesus Christ

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    woah man I read that first article and that's kinda shocking T_T I didn't realize AIDS was endorsed based on unproven hypothesis that HIV is the root cause of it. If she's correct that's very sad :/
     
  21. Yoshitsune Melamonochromatic

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    It is still good to be acquainted with both sides of the argument~
     
  22. Beo InuKage

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    What makes her inherently right?
     
  23. Hi Im God Active Member

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    Ouch.

    Still theres obviously fact from both sides. Not saying your wrong and hiv isnt related to Aids i'm just saying theres two sides, and when people instantly start calling others derogetory things because it's the side your not on well then... thats what this thread is.
     
  24. ez Jesus Christ

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    i said if she's right; i'm not going to research this, but at least now I know of another pov
     
  25. Yoshitsune Melamonochromatic

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    Watch the google video starting from about 21 mins for scientific facts
     
  26. That NOS Guy The Pilot Who Lives by Pride

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    You're saying it like there's anykind of parity.

    I know you'll say "but she's a PhD!"

    protip: Thousands of MDs, PhDs and other highly educated people have backed the conclusion that HIV causes AIDS. She's a mathematician, not a straight flush biologist for Christ's sake.
     
  27. Beo InuKage

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    PhDs don't mean a thing.
     
  28. That NOS Guy The Pilot Who Lives by Pride

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    Either your a troll or completely ignorant of how educated opinion is valued intrinsically more on these matters. Choose.
     
  29. Azure Ihrat Pace is the Trick Retired Staff

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    This is very serious, and it's affecting healthcare in South Africa. For a long time Thabo Mbeki (this country's president) and Manto Tshabalala refused to provide free antiretrovirals to slow the onset of AIDS in HIV-positive patients because they were AIDS denialists. Because Thabo was reading about it on the Internet and took what he read as SERIUS BISNESS. And Manto kept telling everyone that AIDS can be treated by EATING HEALTHILY (YOU HEARD RIGHT), which it can't be.

    It's disgusting, but thankfully now SA has free government-issued ARVs. The plan's not perfect, but it's a start.
     
  30. Yoshitsune Melamonochromatic

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    I would say that when it comes to throwing names around~
    Harvard, UC Berkely, Standford
    Automatically, they are supposed to give connotations of perfection and correctness. If that's the case believe everything I say :D

    Phd.'s are up there
     
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