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Akainu versus Big Mom

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by A Optimistic, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. A Optimistic

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    Location - Banaro Island
    Distance - Opposite ends of the island
    Restrictions - None
    Character state of mind - In character
    Version of character - Fat and mentally stable Big Mom
     
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    You already know who I think wins..

     
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    Shanks very high diff.
     
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    Where do you see Shanks in the title? :nanibaka
     
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    The red Dawg wins high diff
     
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    Akainu extreme diff
     
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    I was reading the Kizaru/Shanks thread so still had Shanks in the mind :lmao

    Sakazuki very high diff.
     
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    Akainu high diff

    Feats:
    DC - highest destructive capability of any fruit according to the vivre card, and he proved this multiple times at Marineford against WB and others. Big Mom’s tough skin won’t be tough enough to withstand it.

    Durability- took two gura attacks point blank, continued to be fully capable of fighting without even needing bandages. BM’s durability is superior, but Akainu isn’t as far behind as many think.

    Stamina- Akainu is capable of fighting an extremely close opponent for over a week. BM can only last hours before beginning to starve. BM is also likely past her prime at 68 years old, only 4 younger than WB when he died.

    Devil fruit- Both have mastered theirs as well as anyone could. Akainu’s is among the best in the world at one thing- destruction. BM’s is much more versatile, but Akainu’s is superior in a 1v1.

    Portrayal:
    Akainu is Fleet Admiral, which mother caramel stated was a best case scenario for BM. No, she wasn’t assuming that for BM without a DF. Caramel planned to sell BM to the WG and knew fully well that they give their best the best devil fruits. BM is merely another Yonko and hasn’t distinguished herself from her peers.
     
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    Big Mom. Nothing indicates that he can beat a Yonko at full power one vs one. Weakened Whitebeard was giving him problems pre-time skip and it's unlikely that he suddenly reached Yonko level in 2 years or even surpassed it. He's Fleet Admiral because the last one retired and he fought another admiral and barely won. It's not like it shows that he's Yonko level/Sengoku level right now.
     
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    He literally no diffed WBs attack and punched half his face off
     
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    Meme makes a Magma Homie and chills out on Zeus eating popcorn while watching Akainu struggle.
     
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    Meme takes it.

    Big Mom>Deathbed Whitebeard>=Akainu
     
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    And then got punched after Whitebeard failed to slow down.





    Big Mom at full strength > Old, sick Whitebeard

    Pre time skip Akainu is not beating any Yonko 1 vs 1 and post time skip Akainu has neither feats nor hype putting him on the same level as a yonko/Garp/Sengoku.

    She is physically stronger, has better armament, her skin is resistant to most forms of damage, has zeus and Prometheus helping her, has more experience, has a more versatile fruit she has mastered and this is ignoring the possibility of her making homies out of his lava which would be another boost for her.

    She's also hyped as one of the 4 Yonko and specifically someone who could possibly stop Blackbeard, someone who clashed with WB for territory, someone who rivals Kaido ( and the other yonko).
     
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    Toss up. Think either one could win this, though I think Sakazuki might win slightly more often because of Linlin's fits of craziness.
     
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    BM.

    She is far stronger physically and any magma he uses gets turned into a homie than then eats any Magma he aims at BM. This forces him to go into CC where he has no chance of beating her.
     
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    Akainu high diffs. His DF is potent enough (also has greatest AP according to DB) to burn BM's insides,or even completely if he uses big fist or daifunka. On top of it he has force haki to help him. So the best and only perk (durability) that BM has is bypassed. Rest isn't important. She is slow,Akainu is fast and can use magma eruption to propel himself. She can fly,Akainu can propel himself so they are even. Her DF attack potency is low (blocked by Jinbei who was burned and one shotted by weakest magma fist). She can use Soru Soru to make magma homie but it won't work on magma man anyway. In a bare fist fight she is stronger,but Akainu here can use DF that tremendously boosts his close combat. This leaves her almost helples. High diff only because she can soak a lot of damage and I give her a possibiliy of random punches landing.
     
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    How is she going to crowd control Sakazuki with magma/lava itself? That is like trapping Crocodile within a sand prison lol.
     
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    Wouldn't her lava homie just absorb all of his following attacks? If she indeed makes a lava homie from one of his attacks, that homie would in theory then be able to absorb/block all of his other lava moves.
     
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    What is the duration of Big Mom ripping a soul out and putting it into the magma?
     
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    Seeing Big Mom's genius strategy to turn every lava attack he throws at her into a homie, Akainu humors her with this for a couple of hours until she runs out of lifespan and dies.
     
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    Did we ever see her do it in the manga? We saw Caramel take a few minutes. Regardless, Big Mom is a yonko with other abilities so it shouldn't be that difficult for her to do it after she sends Akainu flying or something to that effect. He was tagged by a weakened WB pre time skip. Post time skip a full powered Big Mom with 3 special homies should be able to do the same.
     
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    If Big Mom manages to get the upper hand on Akainu, she'd be better off pressing her advantage than wasting time creating a magma homie which can't even hurt Akainu. Seems like a really impractical strategy for a fast-paced and pitched duel.
     
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    Like Zeus eating clouds, the lava homie would eat any subsequent lava attacks and just get bigger. No need to create more lava homies.

    It's not about crowd control. It's about making any magma attack he throws useless as the home would absorb it.
     
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    I recall this working out pretty poorly for Zeus.
     
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    He started craving Nami's balls and Big Mom lost control of him

    those clouds he ate caused him to shoot lightning uncontrollably, mostly at Meme

    then he burnt out
     
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    Lava homie won't help her much. It isn't omnipresent so has to be in a certain position to shield her. And it can't harm lava man Akainu in any way. If she could create lava armor or something it would be a bit different,but she can't it isn't within her abilities,she can't steal DF.
     
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    This topic seems to assume that Big Mom has already acquired said magma. But in a real fight between the two, Big Mom would have to steal it first and we don't know exactly how long the process is supposed to take. Not to mention, most top tiers are already approaching light speed. Sakazuki isn't the type of person who is going to idle and stare at Big Mom while she steals and places a soul inside the magma piece. Furthermore, magma is partly comprised of actual liquid which homies cannot thrive in.

    But let's just assume that it can (even though it's highly speculative at this point), all Sakazuki needs to do is a.) Instill fear on that homie or b.) Obliterate the face on that magma which will kill it instantaneously. Both options are viable.
     
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