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Alot of Thought on Villages And Ties To one Another

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives' started by Cthulhu-versailles, Sep 11, 2005.

  1. Cthulhu-versailles

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    WARNING THIS IS VERY LONG AND THESE ARE MORE LIKE INDIVIDUAL THOUGHS ON EACH ONE... I'LL ADD MORE AFTER I'VE READ OVER SOME PARTS OF THE MANGA.

    Intro

    Five great countries leaf, Mist, Sand, cloud and Stone.
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    Although Kakashi informed us about these five great ninja countries, as the series has gone on it has become increasingly evident that ninja viallages can be founded and destroyed by individuals and done so subtely and in secret. Given this fact and the map which we were shown it is not a reach to say there are at least 10 subsequent existing unknown ninja viallages which will be brought up or that exist.

    That map itself, cannot be seen as a worldy map because the scop of it is limited, and although this may have been a choice on kishimoto part to give identity to the setting, it can also be seen as a way to limit the gouvermental and socio/ territorial problems that would arise if thier had been further expansion of that map.

    The viallige themselves as stated by kakashi are not meant to be rulling over their gouverment but working under them more so as the para military force representative of the socio economic fruitfullness of said gouverment. Thus the reason we have chars like TSUNADE putting heavy focus on the accomplishment of missions over the appreahension of obvious threats is because the actually gouverment in charges does not want to quantify enough resources (in this case ninja are considered commodities as stated by Gotai- to Zabuza long ago) so that in focusing them away from the accumalation of wealth they in fact inadvertently reveal militry strategia. Since whenever mission are not being carried out on what seems to be a certain sort of quota like basis other perceive there is a break or weakness in the country. Also activities that scream exclusive and devoted to many resources may be viewed by other opposing goverments as a secret project that is actually be surmised to be used in attempts to evade.

    Village of GRASS
    Ok since Grass isn't one of the great five it could be possible that thier existance is more heavily tied in with the current gouverment. I doubt this is a baseless assumption, simply because exceptional ninja's are know at least to some degree by others. ( Also grass seems to have positive ties to konoho- or at the very least thier is communication.. UNLIKE CLOUD) This is important fact because it means that they do not have a representative Leader that they wish to be viewed and or targeted. (That is not to say they don't have strong ninja) IN reality this is actually the gouverment using a strategic play to appear weak and in essence divert attention, from the changes that grass is undergoing.

    After the war grass although not completly evaded or decimated was suffering from socioeconomic drawbacks, this of course was further exhasperataed by the emergence of Kyuubi. During that time of struggle and hardship their was an uproar from the people and protest regarding the nijnja and the troubles that they brought with them. At this time grass decided to take measure into thier own hands to protect it's people. Using some of their most talented ninj they decided to conduct experience/experiments. These experience however where more like field test. They used soldiers from thier own armies who were more trained towards the fundamentals of the samurai then ninja and pitted them against the ninja in non leathal combatived games.

    Using the same hierchy as that of the Romans the weak were disgraded however not killed and the strong were award sums of money- to further the incentive and bloodlust of battle. In the end they discovered a fundamental aspect in which they had been shocked they'd overlooked.

    The chakra itself wasn't the reason the ninja were thwarting thier soliders but it was more along the lines of knowledge. The samurai had been trained for certain types of battle and the ninja for other types. The obvious solution then was to make a warrior whose capabilites allowed him to adapt constantly in battle and not be hindered by a steint of incertainty or hesistation.

    The question however, then become how could such a thing be done. They attempted many times but failed miserably. Until they had finally had a stroke of luck and discovered that a child who had come from a city in the captial northwest of their terriotory had some sort of thing inside it that seemed to give it an assortment of powers. Of course they proceed to experiment on it and eventually decided upon a means of extraction, that they would use on one soldier and one ninja. During the process something went dramticall wrong, the extraction of the demon was not taking place, the opposite was infact occuring the demon was extracting the life from the human test subjects. By the time they where able to subdue the child with the demon the two subjects had died.

    This offcourse posed a problem they had to smuggle the bodies out of the country and thus needed to hire ninja from a neibouring country to do this for them, and disguise the bodies as cargo. The country they'd chosen was actually a very small ninja viallage that was situated in a near abadonned landscape. The mission went perfectly and the bodies where dumped into a nearby river and floated out to sea.

    Later the other countires had found out grass had been conducting experiments and it was deemed they ceased and desist. Ninja where sent over to oversea the shut down of thier operation. And the small viallage that had aided them in thier final mission to smuggle out the bodies had been destroyed. The child with the demon inside it was taken to the country of cloud because they where considered to be the most neutral of all the countires.

    everything had been put to rest until sometime later the two bodies that had been dumped in the river, floated out so far they ended up in a completly diffrent region, one where the struggle for power between gouverments had ended long ago and thier was one rulling gouverment. A man Name Inyeingo Masujikei Stumble upon the bodies. However he found they where alive but there was something strange about them. The bodies had undergone dramatic changes and it seemed as though the two bodies where begging to attach themselves together, into one. He brought this news to the head of the one gouverment and it was ordered that he keep survelliance over thething.

    INyeingo was actually the leader of national security and regarded as the most skilled man on the continent in his strange spiritual ablities. However, unknowingly to everyone else he hated the gouverment and wanted to overthrow it. As tiem went on he talked with this creature that was slowly fusing into one and learned many things from it. He learned that there was a continent far of where power existed in the form of demons that could level mountains. He was told of the situation of the gouverment and how he had been experimented on.

    After many weeks of this Inyeingo was taking more and more of a likely to these creatues that had power to level moutains and thought what great things he could do with them. Ironically that same night his gouverment turned on him because they had discovered his memeoirs which he had forgtten to hid as he did every night before hand.

    Deemed a trader he and his new companion fled out to sea to begin a new life on the continet where ninja worked in company with the gouvement. However, Inyeingo was not going to live like a peaceful nobody or be the ruler like some kind of king. He simply wanted to see it, to find them.. to find the demons whose powers he could use for anything he wanted.

    At that time he honestly hadn't known his exact goal in captring them all or what he would do when it was accomplished. However to do so he would need allies- but that was no problem because he already had the greatest allie he'd ever find. There was never any self doubt when he talked, never any shred of hesistation or angst in his words.

    His name was Zetsu and he assured Inyeingo that when he tasted the power of the demon like he had long ago there would be no more doubt only the power of GODS.


    Footnotes ON Grass
    First and foremost Grass has estabilshed a border that is patrolled more so by paramilatary samurai that are trained slightly in ninja know how. These samurai can use chakra however, limit thier applications to genjutsu dispelling and sword based moves similar to hayate.

    Judging by the level of the grass nin in the chunnin exam the grass viallige has a great deal of artilery.. in the ways of kunai and spike or things of that narture. Due to this the people have slowly been expunging resources from the land and for this reason the country of earth wanted to evaded and conquer them. When that threat during the war was neutralized grasses socioeconomic corparations grew to a boiling point with their neighbouring country of konoho. The gouverment of Leaf however wanted to maintain relations decided to offer Grass a grant. The grant in itself
     
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    Great Viallige of Stone

    The villiage of stone seem to live thier lives more based upon the fundamentals of nature and nuture. They believe that by using the profund beautity of nature and nuturing those beautities it is possible to achieve both happiness and strength.

    In essence thier role in things is due to the diffrence in culture which is of course becomes evident in thier type of politics. Unlike others gouverning parties of the time they did not believe as heavily in facist or conservative ideas. Thiere ideas where far moe liberal and deliberately focused on maintaining the bauty of nature.

    I believe thier ideal becomes apparent when we look at the type of ninja deidara is. This person first and for most believes in art, producing it and surpassing the greatness of each and every one of his own creations. Deidara appears to be an individual caught up in a sort of delusional fantasy of what life is. He doesn't want to except responsibilites or attempt to live to please others. He is simply an artist who breath, eats and shits art, it is his purpose. The only problem with this however is that people that are less liberal (those outside of stone) tend not be as liberal and believe life needs to have structure of some kind and that obtaining this kind of structure can first be done with an assortment of both rules and a the defling of nature.

    Due to this type of mentallity Stone has never had good relations with anyone, because thier political views contrast with the structure and order that was begginng to set in during this ninja era.

    Thier intial attack on the other countries was because they believe there way of life was being threatend and did what any country would do and perfomed a premptive strike.

    Currently they allies themselves with anyone always shifiting thier position in order to benefit themselves. They are basically like mercenraies but are not fuelled by death but by creation.

    Villiage of Mist

    This villiage already has a backstory. For one it is small, it is also considered to be like the villiage for denizens or those who felt they had no where else to go. So in summation basically the home you call home when you can't call anywhere else home.

    The story of Mist is quite simple. Considered who the viallge is mostly comprimised of- education or greater education is not a top prioritey. For one this villiage is basically within a martime country. As a result they relie more so then others on transportation in order to create and fuel the labour force. The problem with this villiage however, is due to the predominantyle low level of education amongst the people, there has been a great deal of explotation. Ironically this explotation is not being done by politicians but by feudal lords who horde the resources of the country in order to redistribute them at a more expotential price. Due to the horrible conditions the people decided to form a collations whose principles where to defend the rights of the people. Sadly the collations was quickly crushed by the feudal lords who brought in outside enforcers to teach variying lesson of severity to both the founders and supporters.

    As the hardships become more and more terrible the people began to lose grip with civilizations and slowly began to change the very fundamentals of their peacefull happy go lucky attittudes, into the more deluded ones; backed by the id of self preservations. There trnasformation from man to animal is what actually brought them freedom however, this freedom resulted in a more chaostic uproar then previously believed. As a result the entire gouvermental structure although corrupt became void and the country was in a state of chaos; Where murder and death became the only assurances that existed.

    They couldn't of had a role in the war because they themselves where not considered to be a whole country because they where in such a state of disorder. They where fighting a war against thier own people.

    Kyuubi emergence is the only thing that saved them from self destructions. It forced people to come together and unit. After the suppression of kyuubi the other countries began to reconized the situation that was occuring in mist and diverted minimal funds to oversea some kind of change.

    The change was a sucess house where built, order was restablished however corrupt it was and people could be people again. The thing is that, despite the mist new found emergence into thier humanity they couldn't shake away the ignorance, hatred and pain that was thier culture for so long.

    As a result in the following years many peope where persectued.. one of which but not limited to people with bloodlines.

    Despite the wickedness of this village thier relevance in the story is mute. At best thier ties are based soley in the field of a safe haven where Atatsuki orignally established thier base of operations and first used the mist seven as a front party to build a repuatation and intrest from other outcasted ninja.

    Village Of cloud

    All things about this country are unknown. What is certain is that they have a good vanatage point over all the other countires and are secluded enough so that thier activies are always kept in secret. Is this due to either a peaceful ideal or a country full of power hunger reasearches. In this case the former is true. Before konohoa had been established other cities and countires didn't operate as smoothly as they do today. They existed of course but there where no identifiable boundries or a way to forceibly enforce those boundries. This meant that unless you lived in the captial of those countires you where basically in dangerous unchrated territories.

    Each one of these type of teriroties was inhibated by a diffrent group of individuals. Some were settlers from diffrent continetns others, where people who felt the money hunger modane life offered in the captial wasn't thier cup of tea. Either way they all felt united as though they themselves where a clan. This meant that the fruigal ideas of interfamiliy relationships where a must. This of course created freakish mutations although the mutations themselves couldn't always ne seen by the naked eye but developed in strange ways in people. Some people gained strange eyes with viens that stuck from them others gained skin covered in diamond. In the end the captial of cloud decided to investigate the matter as they'd heard many deaths had been resulting from some feud.

    The officials sent quickly toke sides and sided with the ones who looked less freakish, this happenned to be the sharigan users. Providing them with food and reassurance they tired to pursued them to come back to the city. SOme followed but others stayed and fought thier feud. Eventually the captial tired of the feud and the annoyances it brought into the city and decided to make am ove and extermanate the shairgan users who had stayed behind. The attack began, but they hadn't predicated that the sharigan user had allies- allies who where part of a small band of a select 40 or 50 men and woman who fought like demons and screamed out we are konoho as they stabbed and cracked necks.

    The fight was more or less a stalemate until the leaders of each respective group decidd to face each other, there battle create a huge casm but in the end the leader of the konoho rebels won. Surging of thier victory they plowed threw the town not hearing about surrender and slaughtered any remaing soliders. They gave the people in the captial of cloud a choice they could either leave and go up far into the mountains to live thier lives or stay and be new people of the city called KONOHO.


    SAND


    I will Save my comments for sand until I can think up how Chiyo sealing tech, Sasori turn into a sadistic madman- and chiyo Hatered of White fang.. as well as how sasori paretns died are related.

    EVERYONE ADD WHAT & HOW YOU THINK THE VILLIAGES TIE IN TO ONE ANOTHER.. AS WELL AS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THEM.

    OH YEAH AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT MY UM.. THOUGHTS
     
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  3. TheoDerek

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    Wow that was a lot of reading :S. Shouldn't this be in the theories section? Well anyway, very indepth and thought out. So Sharingan and Byakuugan came from cloud? Also what was the one with diamond skin?
     
  4. TenshiOni

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    Sugoi! Such a well-thought out analysis. :amazed

    I'll add something when it comes to me. X_X
     
  5. TheoDerek

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    No ones posting in this thread. Maybe its because they don't feel like reading that much :p.
     
  6. Yukimura

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    You're pretty creative.

    And random in capitalizing :wink Unless it's intentional...the leaf and cloud aren't worthy ='(
     
  7. kapsi

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    I think no one is posting because the initial post is completely incomprehensible. I feel like there is a thought there but it doesn't seem like its worth trying to figure out what it is.
     
  9. Dabura

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    um arent the countries Fire country, Wind country, thunder and another 2

    Konoha is a village, and the Hokage just happend to live there. But the country is Fire (HO-kage) and Wind country > KAZE-kage.
     
  10. earthshine

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    the only prob i have is with mist.i really dont think theyt where ever animalistic at all, in fact, their cruel policys probobly did produce some very strong nins, i mean, look at the list:zabuza, haku, kisame, the 7 swordsmen. and the nist is also a village of assasins, so their not really anamilistic, just a little too human.
     
  11. preqrhok7v

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    I don't see how this is based on the manga?
    You describe the kyuubi incident as an important event for the MIST village?
    They were like miles away, split by an ocean, they weren't affected. You need to learn the difference between what WE, the readers, know and what the people of the narutoverse know.

    This belongs in Theories and/or Fanart section(If we have one).
     
  12. Cthulhu-versailles

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    BUMPPPPPPPPPP!
    ...
    It seems my old randomized thoughts on the manga and junk were seemingly correct.
     
  13. Luckyday

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    I always felt that the cloud and leaf were related.:headscrat
     
  14. Shikamaru-sama

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    Analysis? Where?

    All i see is fiction.
     
  15. ShangDOh

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    This looks like more of a piece of fanfic.
     
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