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Amazon has already begun automating its white-collar jobs

Discussion in 'The NF Café' started by Dragon D. Luffy, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Dragon D. Luffy of the Stars

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    Amazon robots that can order replacement parts for themselves?!
     
  3. Lina Shields i am disappoint dat...

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    Wow, this is like the industrial revolution all over again, with a bit more high-tech this time.

    Maybe people are better off programming and maintenance of these bots instead; don’t think these automated bots can program themselves just yet.
     
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  5. Normality venus

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    This will be the kiss of death for capitalism.
     
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    Or the beginning of a new era of extreme poverty.
     
  7. Lina Shields i am disappoint dat...

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    Should we go over the events that happened during the industrial revolution again?
     
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    There is no either or in this situation. Humans do not need capitalism to survive. You can have a future where capitalism dies and people live great or a future where capitalism dies and people live horrible. The important thing is what new system are we going to implement once this system dies out. I believe we need a society where the backbone is socialism with pockets of capitalism but capitalism as the backbone of society is quickly becoming a thing of the past. It's not a coincidence that all developed countries are going into instability mode. This economic system does not work anymore and the situation will continue to get worse as more jobs are automated.
     
  9. baconbits Super Moderator

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    This sentiment has no connection with reality. Markets exist and will exist whether we want them to or not. The laws of supply and demand are just that: laws. You can approach them with socialist solutions, but that will not mean an end to capitalism.
     
  10. Xiammes All For One Administrator

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    The machines are coming. Thing is, when people hear about machines they think low skill jobs like mcdonalds or cashiers being trouble, but the reality is that AI is about to encroach on a lot of other jobs. We are going to lose a lot of jobs in the next decade and we don't really have a market that is about to open up that can supply millions of people. Its probably better to get customer service experience right now then go into accounting.
     
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    Or extrem prosperity.
     
  12. Dragon D. Luffy of the Stars

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    Markets dont exist if people have nothing to buy goods with.

    Right now we buy them with labor. And labor is going away.

    I could see a future where money still exists but it is either a socialist one, or an extreme dystopia where everyone starves to death.
     
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    Imo the more developed democracies will do fine. Some places in North America and Europe are already implementing universal basic income. Intellectuals know we need to start transitioning into a workless era. This will be like global warming: some rednecks will deny the reality, but the part of society with working brains will accept it.

    Third world countries are getting the short end of the stick, though. They may need some mass death and revolutions to get there.
     
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  15. WorkingMoogle Well-Known Member

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    Not exactly new.

    Quickbooks has been helping companies automate their white collar jobs for like 20 years now.

    As I've mentioned in previous threads, this trend will continue. Societies need to adapt to this fact.
     
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    Honestly I say most low skill jobs are probably harder for machines to take care of...ie I could make a machine to pick fruit from trees sure but is it going to be cost effective compared to a human any time soon? I think not.
     
  17. Xiammes All For One Administrator

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    Labor job have a bit of insulation, but machines can optimize the process and will continue trying. You can 3d print a small house for under $10k now in under a day.



    Humans who specialized in a diverse number of tasks are somewhat safe, but the reality is only those in positions that require the "human element" are safe. I work front desk at a hotel, and while the check in process could be handled by machines, I interact with the guests and sell the hotels rooms with friendly service and can go in and out of a rigid structure to each individual guest.

    Machines will soon be hiring human greeters to business establishments if they optimize the process.
     
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    Fair Enough but yeah its going to cause major problems with current economic model.
     
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    Certainly, tried thinking out of the box, I think we will shift more towards entertainment, it will probably be a while before machines and AI can produce entertainment that will satisfy the masses, by that point AI and machines will probably have taken over much of the old norms and it wouldn't even be a issue.

    Possible maybe make the idea of a consumer as a "job", someone who consumes entertainment others make.
     
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    Depends on how copyright laws are going to come in the coming years.
     
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  22. Lord Valgaav My fries

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    I knew this day would come soon enough. The robots are taking over and we're letting them. :fusain

    Destroy the machines!
     
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    Money is how we buy things, not labor. You use your labor to get money. Markets will always exist even if people have very little to exchange.
     
  24. Grandpa Uchiha Who wants some of my Wood Release?

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    why have I been tagged to this you damn zatch?
     
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    I thought you worked in packaging for Amazon :kermitthink
     
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    There will always be things to buy, sure.

    But what happens to this system when 99% of the population's labor has no value?
     
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    Hello socialism and communism then!
     
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    I don't think that will happen. Mainly because the market will react even to some of the low skill jobs going away the same way the market is reacting now to the fact that we don't need as many secretaries to type and as many paper mills. These things don't just flip a switch and change. They change in such a way that people can react. So there won't be a situation where no people's work will afford them anything.
     
  30. WorkingMoogle Well-Known Member

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    How did the market react exactly to "not needing as many secretaries to type and as many paper mills?"

    How would you forsee the market reacting to "not needing [any] truckers" or "not needing [many] fast food employees?"
     
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