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An idea about how strong current Goku and Vegeta are

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by MShadows, Jan 5, 2019.

  1. ChadtheGoat

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    Goku Anime Kill Goku manga easy.:raiden

    Goku anime fight Beerus in base.



    Beerus masturbation is patetic.

     
  2. Jizznificent

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    Toriyama's ssb = GoD tier

    Toei's ssbkk/ssbe = GoD tier

    Toyo's mssb = GoD tier

    Or at the very least they are dipping their toes into that tier.
     
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    Holding back to not destroy his disguise.




    Superficial damage,Ssjg Goku didn't even match 1% of Beerus.


    Beerus keeps Saiyan wank in check. Or else they would be comming all over the place.
     
  4. Gordo solos

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    Two Saiyans are already stronger than Beerus (MUI Goku and Broly). The cat’s days are numbered
     
  5. pat pat

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    did they say he is on ssb level speed? nope
    you need to stop thinking in a literal way. in the DB universe , when a warrior successfully separate his mind and his body , he get an extreme dodging ability that does not depend on how high your power level is. and if you achieve it even further you enter the mind state of the migatte no gokui, this is difficult to accept when for the las ten years everything has been power level discussion , but no UI has nothing to do with power level. and it actually breaks the logic behind power level itself,, it's like a cheat code, it doesn't matter if you are faster than him, he will dodge you because he entered a certain spiritual mindset. and I think that's why Rosh was used in the scene , to show how it hasn't anything to do with power level and shit like that


    but well :eek: I guess we are so used to think this particular way.....
     
  6. pat pat

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    they are fighting at the gods level because they are sing god ki which is the ki the deities use. that's all
    they didn't said they were in any way around the level of the god of destruction since goku couldn't even see their fight earlier.

    @MShadows can you do a thread like this but for their destructive power? like we know cell is solar system level etc etc
     
  7. Millón Vasto

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    We are not doing this again.

    U are free to believe what u want.
     
  8. pat pat

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    that's what the story is telling tho , just quoting the manga about UI. the representation of UI in the manga is literally what it was made to be, a cheat code that ignore the "power gap" , it giving power boost makes no sense....
    just quoting the book man ;)
     
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    Freeza is stronger than them according with the broly movies. He hold the guy for hours , they had to run for fusion
     
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    Being some punching bag doesn't put him above goku or Vegeta
     
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    I know, was just expressing frustration towards that black hole in the movie
     
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    To think Goku and Vegeta made it this far ever since the events of the BoG

    And we’re not even near to the End of DBZ where Goku met uub too.

    Makes me wonder if they will ever reach their full potential
     
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    That's a pretty fair analogy. I don't think they are necessarily firmly in that tier yet, but "dipping their toes into that tier" describes it well.
     
  14. Claudio Swiss

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    I second this
     
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    5. Headcanon continuity
     
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    Don't forget the gag manga continuity :carlton
     
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    This was a mistake and they apologized for it.
     
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    It was one of the universes Zeno erased
     
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    They did apologize. That was a big news day.
     
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