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An Rasengan get through pt 1 Gaara’s sand?

Discussion in 'New Leaf' started by Grinningfox, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. Grinningfox Well-Known Member

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    why or why not
     
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    Whose rasengan?
     
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    Whoever you think has a standard Rasengan
     
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    Chunin Exams Gaara? Yes

    SRA Gaara? No
     
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    Probably. Also I think his Sand's durability didn't increase.
     
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    Depends which Sand Protection you are talking about.

    Rasengan vs Sand Shield : Rasengan Wins (Gaara injured)

    Rasengan vs Sand Armor: Rasengan Wins (Gaara Very injured)

    Rasengan vs Sand Armor + Shield : Rasengan Wins (Gaara less injured)

    Rasengan vs Sand Globe (What Gaara used in his exam vs Sasuke): I think the Sand Globe would be damaged but I don't think it would be broken through completely and Gaara would be un-injured. (Remember Gaara's normal sand is chakra enhanced so it will be fairly resistant by default.)
     
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    Actually. Since Magnet release is made up of the properties of wind and and earth, one of its weaknesses is not earth. Since basiscally, Magnet release users could even make use of ground particles. That tech only works on obviously touching it. A direct blast to the sand shield not touching his body (IE: not his sand armor, just sand in general is just eventually gonna reform.

    If you wanted to damage any magnet release user, you use it's two base elements weaknesses. Suiton and Raiton.
     
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    Gaara doesn't use magnet release for his sand as far as I remember though.

    OT: It depends on who is wielding it.
     
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    If Chidori can easily get past Gaara's sand then so should Rasengan.
     
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    Not necessarily, chidori is high compessed electric corrent ->it emit magnetic filed that can potentially disturb you the spred magnetic release that used to control the sand. While rasengan is just compressed chakra- that disturb and spred in impact.

    It was confirmed both in manga and 4th databook to be magnet release
     
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    What chapter and in what part of the databook so i can confirm this.
     
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    674 search for the official colored manga , and you can look at garaa and Shukaku ( maybe Naruto too ) entries in data book
     
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    Base Gai could punch through CE Gaara’s sand, or at least was capable of dispelling it with his fists.

    And even Part 1 Naruto had a Rasengan powerful enough to rip up metal and blow up large boulders.

    So yeah, it definitely gets through CE Gaara’s sand.

    I’m unsure about SRA Gaara’s sand though, as IIRC it withstood attacks from Kimimaro’s higher level jutsu.
     
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    Need we point to the water tanks again? Rasengan causes massive trauma at the end of the jutsu.

    Chidori is concentrated and does consistent damage.

    Rasengan would burst partway through and massively damage Gaara inside and probably burst open the back of the sand orb.
     
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    It didn't do that to Obito when Minato used it on him. :urahaha
     
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    It didn't do that to Obito's head either when Naruto used it on his mask/face.

    See the main thing about Kishi's writing is that he goes for :

    the FLASH, the BAM, the LOOK and SOUNDS COOL!


    Later on he either realises he can't deliver on them long term or never really intended to deliver on them in the first place.

    For example take the effects of Chidori vs Rasengan in the Water Tower exchange.

    A few chapters earlier before that Chidori was able to bust through three concrete walls (See chapter 146 page 14 and 15.)

    If you disregard that then in the Chuunin exams, Chidori was able to make big holes in solid rock. (See chapter 128, pg 11 or so)

    Both of those instances show that Sasuke's chidori should have made a much bigger hole in the front of that Water tower IF KISHI WAS CONSISTANT when he writes about the power of his jutsu.

    but the simple fact is that he isn't consistent. Actually I take that back, Kishi is consistent. He just consistently uses jutsu as a way of making a point in the story rather then keep them at a stable power level.

    Kishi wanted to make point about Naruto catching up and Sasuke becoming jealous so he showed the Chidori's power level as being much weaker then it was portrayed earlier.

    This is the same thing he is doing with Rasengan and Tobi's mask:

    "Mask shattering due to rasengan in the face, Wonderful drama. What rasengan should smash his face in? Get out of here logic and don't bother me when I am writing dramatic moments."
     
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    Actually it did. It has an initial strike and then a powerful burst that slams Obito into the ground.

    @Arthas

    Could also be that Sasuke has better chakra control by the tank fight and thus his Chidori became more precise.

    The rocks were him just training to use it for the very first time after all.

    It's not like Chidori has ever done more then pierce a small radial area. Only during Sasuke's training is it ever shown to hit a massive area.
     
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    Oh really? I don't remember Obito's body having a massive hole like the water tank.
     
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    Rasengan behaves inconsistently
     
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    Well fights would be over pretty quickly if it busted through like that.

    All shounen increase the durability of their battlers to ridiculous degrees.

    What would destroy a normal human is just a big red mark and some broken bones on a shounen character.
     
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    It cratered the ground and Obito seemed to Kamui away. Not even mentioning his zetsu suit.
     
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    Obito is durable is the logical conclusion.
     
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    Well Kabuto also didn't get a hole in his body in part 1 either... although that was early days and Kabuto began healing the moment he got hit by the attack and still, was too damaged to carry on.
     
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    Shinobi are durable.

    Notable/powerful Shinobi like Kabuto and Obito even more so.
     
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    When Sasuke chased Itachi/Kisame to the Inn in Part 1: His Chidori blew threw steel re-inforced walls.

    Nah, like I said earlier. Kishi just consistently uses jutsu as a way of making a point in the story rather then keep them at a stable power level.
     
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    Yeah, this makes the most sense to me. If it can rip up the ground like that it should have fucked Obito up severely. Instead he comes out with just a little hurt arm. Please...

    Really that fight never made sense to me like at all. Obito should have known Minato could teleport with his kunais as that was his sensei. Also why did he warp if his super clothing could block a fucking Rasengan? A kunai wouldn't do shit. He also tries to wrap up Minato with chains like he simply doesn't understand that Minato can teleport lol.

    Oh well been discussed to death and all.
     
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