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Anbu vs Konoha Police

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by vagnard, Jul 15, 2005.

Konoha Police vs Anbu

  1. Konoha Police

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  2. Anbu

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  1. vagnard Well-Known Member

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    Anbu: the special squad of assassins and spies

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    Konoha Internal Police: dedicated to the public order inside Konoha.
     
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  2. gomen desu desu desu

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    If you mean the Uchiha clan I'll vote for them. :)
     
  3. meatpie Chairman

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    KPD all the way...

    The anbu are over-rated.
     
  4. Insipidipity Ignostic Buddhist

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    But ANBU have jurisdiction over the police. Not to mention it'd take 3 squads of ANBU to take down Orochimaru, it'd take the entire police force to do the same(and maybe even fail at taht.
     
  5. Invisus 私はお前の愚兄である。

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    Anbu don't have Jurisdiction over the police, merely they can't be arrested without the Hokages order.
     
  6. Insipidipity Ignostic Buddhist

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    Sorry I didn't mean jurisdiction, I mean they have priority, they can tell the Police to back off.

    Besides, its like saying who's better a group of assassins or a bunch of police officers? The assassins will wipe them out as fast as Itachi. In fact, Itachi was ANBU captain when he did the deed so technically an ANBU did kill all the Police.
     
  7. AnbuTsunaku Anbu Leader

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    ive got to stick up for anbu afterall it is part of my name, lol.
     
  8. Invisus 私はお前の愚兄である。

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    It's not anything like that, firstly the Police aren't regular police officers they are military police. Second the Anbu don't get to order them around, they simply can't arrest one unless it's okayed by the Hokage first. That doesn't mean they are higher ranked, only that they need that kind of movement since they may be undercover for whatever reasons or may be doing something for the Hokage that isn't to be public knowledge.

    Also the Konoha police have to enforce the law on people like Hiashi, Kakashi, Gai, etc. So chances are they are going to be stronger on average than that of the Anbu who are composed of anybody between Chuunin and Jounin. That and the Police aren't only Uchiha's, there could easily be many Hyuuga's, Akamichi, Inuzuka, etc. on the force as well.
     
  9. Moritsune Chong Li Retired Staff

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    i'll go with ANBU, they are sweet, and the KPF didn't show anything spectacular skill wise.
     
  10. Chatulio Senex

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    im goingwith anbu becouse they get cool mask and body armor :amuse
     
  11. Hyuuga-YoungIsh Hyuuga until I Die

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    Wait wasnt itachi and kakashi apart of the anbu I think imma go with them!!!lol
     
  12. skmt999 4th Division Captain

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    Um, here's where I sound stupid. But I thought ANBU is KPD? Basically the same organization, with different levels or something like that. If there's a distinciton, then duh, Anbu wins since they're leet like that.
     
  13. Insipidipity Ignostic Buddhist

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    Alright, we have ANBU, who of the known characters has had Kakashi, Itachi, and Ibiki
    On the other hand, on KPD we've had the dead Uchiha clan. That is of the known characters...

    When Orochimaru came, Anko told them to get "2 squads of ANBU" not "2 squads of the police" and this is the same Orochimaru who was said to be able to take over a small country on his own. So 2 squads of ANBU > a small country. Konoha Police Department basically is the toughest people from that small country.
     
  14. Sobe \m/

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    I think we'd need to know the police in Konoha currently since the Uchiha clan aren't exactly in charge of it anymore. Besides even if they were, all we've seen from Uchiha is Itachi who was in ANBU so that cancels out, Sasuke who is still a Genin, Obito who was pretty weak, and Kakashi if you want to count him with his transplant eye, who was of course also in ANBU.

    Also, you have to realize ANBU are tactical organization, they perform assasinations and other top secret missions and such, Police Force more than likely investigates crimes as shown when they confronted Itachi. Therefore, I'd have to conclude that ANBU are better trained, they are more organized and team oriented (as seen in Chuuin Exam), and probably possess more specialty skills. More combat experience than the Police Force no question. My vote goes for ANBU.
     
  15. Invisus 私はお前の愚兄である。

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    Kakashi quit being an Anbu and is now only a Jounin who would be under the jurisdiction of the KPD, Itachi was a Chuunin when he was picked and obviously no one knew how strong he really was except for maybe the Uchiha- not to mention he was the one who said "Only superior Shinobi can enforce the law on other Shinobi..."

    And Ibiki is a Special Jounin, color me unimpressed.

    The KPD aren't only the Uchiha, the Uchiha were simply the first division and they were killed by someone who put the fear in Orochimaru when he was a kid. It's hardly a fair comparison, though if you wanna talk, we've seen tons of Anbu getting their ass beat left and right by people weaker than Itachi so I guess they suck too.

    So? That's what the Anbu are for, they are at the beck and call at all times. The KPD would be busy making sure nothing goes to shit while the Sand, and other ninja villages where in Konoha. It's not like Anko is going to withdraw the police to go hunt for Orochimaru when it's the job of the Anbu to do such a thing.

    And no, if the Anbu had gone off to get Orochimaru they most likely would have died. There is a reason Sarutobi chose to kill Orochimaru himself and why he said that no ninja existed in Konoha that could stand against him. If it were that simple he would have had a bunch of ninja's go after him, but since Kakashi nearly crapped his pants at the thought of going against Orochimaru while Kabuto who is similar in strength was able to turn a few of them into soil without appearently breaking a sweat.

    Also since the death of the Uchiha, it's likely that the police force is lacking somewhat in manpower.

    Edit: I think the problem we have here is that you guys are comparing the Konoha police to that of a normal police force. And sure, that would work, if the people who live in the village weren't composed of Ninja's who have been trained to kill, spy, etc.

    The KPD are trained to deal with all the citizens of Konoha it's not like your normal neighbourhood police, they don't drive around in patrol cars dealing with the non-ninja's they bust the Konoha Ninja's.

    They are Ninja's that enforce the law on other Ninja's.
     
  16. Insipidipity Ignostic Buddhist

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    You must've misread what I wrote, I said, of the ANBU, the only ones of whom we knew(characters we've seen before) they HAD(meaning in the past) those people. Yes they left. Otherwise I wouldn't have said "had" and yes I know theres more, thats why I said of the ones we knew...
    Ibiki is a special jounin who just so happens to be a specialist in assassinations and interrogations/torture, even Kakashi thought him as a sadist. Its not the size of the (insert animal here) in the fight, its the size of the fight in the (insert animal here). He's a sadistic SOB who you really don't want to fight because he won't just kill you, he'll torment your last moments. Unimpressive but intimidating.

    "tons of ANBU". We've had a handful of ANBU killed by Kabuto, who's of Kakashi's skill, more killed by Orochimaru...who else? Seriously, people overestimate the number of ANBU killed just because they're used as a foil to show just how damn powerful some of these guys are. Theres a difference between "no ninja" and "no squad of ninjas". 2 squads is a lot. Remember that it was said that the Kaguya were no matched for an organized military, same principle applies here, a couple dozen guys well trained and organized could at least drive Orochimaru out temporarily until the Hokage could face him.
     
  17. Sobe \m/

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    Yes, but as I said I don't think they go out hunting for criminal ninjas or anything of the sort. My guess is they simply investigate and interagate suspects or witnesses, therefore they are trained more in the aspects of wits, while the ANBU are trained as fighters/assasins. Think of the police force like Sakura, she knows her shit but when it comes to actual battles she sucks, of course not as literal but you get the idea.

    This is why they have Hunter-Nin, which are ninjas who specifically go after exiled ninja and assasinate them. Hunter-Nin are not the police force, they seem more ANBU styled to me.
     
  18. Temari103 ^ Khaff ^0^

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    took me word. :amuse
     
  19. Chatulio Senex

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    ^hehe a fellow believer :D
     
  20. lekki Specialist

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    ANBU were higher ranked than the police and that's all you need to know.
    Alot of Konoha's great's are former ANBU including the Uchitards hero Itachi, another ANBU veteran is Kakashi.
     
  21. Rangamaru Obito Killed The Uchiha Clan

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    I lean towards anbu, afterall was Itachi's father not pleased when he was accepted into the organization? also, i fell that both groups are superior shinobi; however, not counting Itachi or kakashi, if you put 50 random anbu and 50 random police squad member on a field and had them fight I'd go with anbu for the win. The anbu are choosen and directed by the hokage himself. No one of inferior ablility will be there.
     
  22. Marvin Member

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    the anbu are better, since they are trained to go after/fight enemy shinobi, while KP basicaly just police the people of konoha, which 90 percent are not even ninja, and the ninja are all lawabiding, since those ninja who are not lawabiding are most likely missing-nin already which falls under the anbu responsibility.

    Anbu - special forces
    Konoha police - base MP
     
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    When did it say that the police can arrest jounins? As far as I know, jounins are also part of the military, the highest part infact. They seem to be able to order Anbu as Anko and Kakashi have demonstrated so Im guessing they also have power over the police. The way see it, KP are more like Police, Anbu as FBI/CIA and jounins are basically like generals or commanders.
     
  24. Dynamic Dragon Destruction

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    anbu are better since the police have to ask the hokage for a warrant which means they have higher grounds ^^ or the advantage, and they are classified as spies too for assisnation work usually
    so yeah it like u know

    K.police = normal cops
    Anbu = hitman/assasins (elektra? oO haha)
     
  25. azn_sephiroth She's hot heh......

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    Uh...Itachi can probably take out Orochimaru single handedly...
     
  26. Heldensheld Chunnin

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    Don't remember seeing a police officer during the World Wars.
     
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    Ex members of the police squad were more then happi to go to Anbu, hehe
     
  28. Last of the Uchihas Get your own girls, Jonas!

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    The Konoha police aka the Uchiha clan, which was the strongest, feared and greatest clan of all.

    Don't forget what Chiyo said, run for your life if you meet an sharingan user, meaning that the KP don't just stay there, but they also travel the world, not to mention that all Uchihas are geniuses, elite and superior.

    Anbu doesn't even stand a chance.
     
  29. Shidoshi Cross Marian: Ninjai's Father

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    ANBU are neither ranked above or below the Ninja Police. They're both special groups that have separate purposes within and outside the ninja military.

    ANBU are under the Hokage's direct jurisdiction and are the only ninja allowed to leave the village without orders from either Hokage or Village Elder.

    The Ninja Police are responsible for policing the military...in a sense, Military Police.

    If you liken it to a city police department, Genin, Chuunin and Jounin are your regular officers in standard tier format...

    ...ANBU would be the SWATeam, comprised of both Chuunin and Jounin-level ninjas...

    ...and the Police of the Police would be like Internal Affairs...able to enforce the law on law enforcement --- but ninja-like, so they'd have also have to be able to physically enforce law, not just judicially...even amongst other Jounin.

    Or, liken it to an Armed Service like the NAVY (for example), Genin, Chuunin and Jounin would be akin to Crewmen, Lieutenants and Captains respectively. ANBU would be the elite SEALs (made up of Chuunin and Jounin), and the Konoha PD would be the elite Military Police (most likely just Jounin or Jounin-level ninja). Neither would outrank the other.

    Which explains why you never saw Chuunin-level Konoha Police...something about it taking elite ninja to police other elite ninja.

    And as to why Itachi's father was excited for Itachi getting a post in the ANBU...well...you have to remember that Itachi's was young for a typical Chuunin, and young for a typical Jounin-level ANBU squad leader (he was 13...when Sasuke at that same age would only be getting to the Chuunin level). That accounts for his excitement over Itachi's promotion.

    Fin.

    I don't think I have any holes in my arguements.

    Think about that for a second...who would the Police be "policing" if everyone able to fight was fighting in the war...to the point of ninja shortages?
     
  30. Kakashi_Love Guest

    depends on which side has Itachi :kukuku cuz you know that will really tip the scale!:p
     
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