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Angela Merkel's CDU elects Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer as party leader

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  1. RavenSupreme Well-Known Member

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    “It is now the time to open a new chapter, it was a great pleasure for me," the German chancellor said. But she also had a message for President Trump.

    HAMBURG, Germany — German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s final speech as leader of her party was met with an 11-minute standing ovation on Friday.

    The address marked the beginning of her gradual exit from both German politics and the world stage. Merkel has led the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) since 2000, and been the country's chancellor since 2005.



    “It is now the time to open a new chapter, it was a great pleasure for me, it was an honor,” Merkel said as she concluded her speech. Delegates held up signs reading: “Thank You, Boss.”

    Merkel, 64, later handed the baton to a successor at the party congress in Hamburg.

    , was elected as her replacement on Friday.

    Kramp-Karrenbauer — who often goes by her initials AKK — got about 52 percent of the vote in in a run-off with Friedrich Merz, a former lawmaker who left politics to work as a corporate lawyer.


    German party leaders, including Merkel, have traditionally been selected through backroom deals and faced no competition during confirmation votes at party conventions.

    But for the first time since 1971, CDU delegates were on Friday given the opportunity to elect their new party leader from among several candidates.

    Like Merkel, represents the more moderate wing of their party. The 56-year-old is a mother of three who previously served as the governor of the small German state of Saarland.

    The two other candidates who hoped to replace her for the CDU post had both openly criticized some of the chancellor’s policies in the past.


    Jens Spahn, Germany's 38-year-old health minister, repeatedly spoke out against Merkel's open-door migration policy which resulted in .

    Merz presented himself as the candidate who could bring back voters from the far-right populist AfD.

    , the anti-immigration and anti-E.U. AfD won 13 percent of the votes in the German state of Hesse in October.

    “The times today are challenging for our country, for our party, with the AfD on the right and a polarization of society,” Merkel warned in her speech.

    Merkel also had a message for President Donald Trump, stating that her party had to show its strengths in an age of “growing renunciation of multilateralism” and in times of “reducing international cooperation to the principles of deal-making.”


    Judith Hoerning, a 23-year-old delegate, told NBC News that while Merkel had "shaped the party in a good way" she believed her decision to step down was "courageous and right because the party needs transformation now.”


    Judith Hoerning.Andy Eckardt / NBC News
    Jens Eckhoff, a 52-year-old delegate from Bremen, said he was happy AKK was elected because he believed she could "help gain voters in the center and can also win against the populists with good arguments."

    Germany’s neighbors are already concerned that the departure of Europe’s longest serving leader could weaken the European Union.


    “There is still huge respect for Merkel because she gave stability in Europe at a time when things were rocky,” said Judy Dempsey, a nonresident senior fellow at the Carnegie Europe think tank.

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    This truly was a very interesting event. I followed it live and watched all speeches.

    Honestly, I was semi-expecting Merz to prevail. He delivered an amazing performance both in rhetoric and also in substance. The result of just 35 more votes for Karrenbauer despite being the leading chancellors favourite is telling.

    The CDU needs an actual renewal of her positions and fundamental approach.

    Not that I am too bothered by the result. I am a member of an opposing party and with Karrenbauer we can live better than with Merz (albeit my own personal feeling at least in the start was more on the side of Merz).
     
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    CDU leaders time in office

    1. Helmut Kohl: 25 years (1973–1998)
    2. Angela Merkel: 18 years (2000-2018)
    3. Konrad Adenauer: 16 years (1950–1966)
    4. Kurt Georg Kiesinger: 4 years (1967–1971)

    5. Wolfgang Schäuble: 2 years (1998-2000)
    5. Reiner Barzel: 2 years (1971-1972)
    7. Ludwig Erhard: 1 year (1966–1967)
    8. Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer: TBD (2018)

    I was hoping Merkel would beat Kohl, but oh well, second place isn't bad either.
     
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    Angela Merkel has been German Chancellor my entire adult life so seeing her pass the baton on to a successor feels so weird. One thing I'm sure she is happy about is not having to deal directly with Trump's temper tantrums in meetings.
     
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    Well she will still remain chancellor till 2021 so depending how things go for Trump she will outlast him.

    Its just after her term where she will fully resign. Now she just resigned her party leading position
     
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    Putin will outlast everyone. :maybe

    With 18 years he's already the longest serving leader in the G20.
     
  7. RavenSupreme Well-Known Member

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    If he goes down within 1 year and Merkel goes the full distance till 2021 she can still surpass him :cat

    Xi is the one everyone should look out for :obamabury
     
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    I don't like the new guy because I can't pronounce his name.
    He needs to do a name change asap.
     
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    She's a woman, actually.

    "Annegret" is a German variant form of "Anna Gretchen".
     
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    German media and her party feel the same, hence she is often called by her initals, AKK.
     
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    Well damn. :haha
    Germany is consistently giving women leadership role. That is something you don't see alot.
     
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    Well I mean Hitler was a diaster so a healthy distrust of male leadership makes some degree of sense I suppose.
     
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  13. RavenSupreme Well-Known Member

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    We had Adenauer, Schmidt, Kohl - probably 3 of the most popular and accomplished western european leaders post ww2 in german speaking regions, which includes belgium, swiss, austria etc.

    Cant really follow your logic here lol
     
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    Well seems like the AFD has the possibility to become the next big party. It would have been difficult for them if the CDU would have elected Friedrich Merz instead
     
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    dumb post, completely detached from reality
     
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    yeah we saw with our own eyes what we got with Mommy Merkel as our leader: open borders, mass molestation, and an increased terror threat

    And if the this will most likely continue
     
  17. Mider T Oh Christmas T!

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    If you're not first, you're last.
    Nice to see you didn't read the article.
     
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    Yes Yes Junta but that doesn't really compare to Adolf.
     
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    Wow she is ugly. I didn't think it was possible to get an uglier German woman than Merkel but fuck me Germany did it and they elected her.
     
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    It has been long time for Hitler though. I don't really think generation that actually saw Hitler is alive anymore. :hmm
    At least not many of them.
    I think Germany is just progressive country unlike America.
     
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    Where did this happen?
     
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    Think Putin is younger and given Putin's past career I would guess Vlad is in great physical condition.
     
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    we are moving to civil unrest if the migrant crisis is not solved
     
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    "Kramp-Karrenbauer — who often goes by her initials AKK"

    You don't like reading, do you?
     
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    That happened in the same year of the refugee/migrant crisis, 3 years ago. And since then it didn't happen again, you should acknowledge that.
     
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    Trying too hard to come off as Mr. Tough Guy.

    Please read what you said again and ask yourself it if makes sense (hint: it doesn't!).

    His response: "Who needs to read when I'm busy riding the high horse?"


    Also her name is stupid easy to pronounce, I don't know where the difficulty is. I'm not even German and had no issue with it. Annegret seems like a mix of Anne + Margaret or Anne + Greta, so what's hard about pronouncing that?
     
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    >Memegenerator watermark

    2/10
     
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    > not competent enough to use Gimp or Photoshop to remove watermark from unoriginal meme
    > 2018

    Uh-oh
     
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    Spoiler:
    :skully
     
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