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Anyone here still think Jack is impressive?

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Jin22, Dec 6, 2017.

  1. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    Assuming Jack is the 3rd strongest of the Kaido Pirates, he has been far more impressive then Cracker.

    There is much more hype and grandeur to him, not just with the higher bounty but the people he has dealt with are much more powerul. First he wages war against a country of powerful Minks where he fights non stop against their leaders for 5 days while they take turns and breaks, after that he leaves and makes an attempt on a fucking Admiral and former Fleet Admiral and gets rekt but he still not out, he then decides to come back to Zou and stupidly provokes a massive island sized animal only to get smashed by it, and then while we assume he is done for, the dude is chillin as if nothing happened...


    Just waiting for someone to fish him out so he can go back to causing more Havok.

    Meanwhile Cracker is taken out and completely obliterated by just one attack from Luffy that landed on him, and we have yet to see him...

    I think what people are upset by when it comes to his portrayal is the fact most of his combat abilities have been offscreened. Which Im sure Oda will rectify when he finally gets to Wano and has his big fight.

    I hope... :catcry
     
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  2. Vengarl Maniac fan club

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    Just wait til he's fished out, he'll put Jinbei through the ringer
     
  3. Jin22 Well-Known Member

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    No, fuck Jack. He already lost...he isn't impressive anymore. Let's hope someone hurry and save him so he can job for somebody more impressive
     
  4. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    He lost to someone who could arguably beat Prime Roger, arguably beat Sengoku and Ishoo (along with tsuru), and he was beating the dukes. (and he hasn't even revealed his awakening yet)

    Jack is stronger than katakuri despite being the number 3 underling.
     
  5. Jin22 Well-Known Member

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    Except, Katakuri is more impressive
     
  6. Vengarl Maniac fan club

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    It literally took an island sized attack to temporarily put him down lol. If he wasn't paralyzed by the sea he probably would've Jinbei'd through the water and latched on to Zunisha because he's crazy relentless
     
  7. Louis-954 Well-Known Member

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    Nothing impressive about having your ass whooped back to back to back.
     
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  8. Jin22 Well-Known Member

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    And yet he still got swatted like a knat...dudes a loser
     
  9. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    I'm still debating if Katakuri is stronger than Cracker honestly.

    Jack meanwhile has proven he's stronger than Cracker by a lot.
     
  10. Jin22 Well-Known Member

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    You got to keep in mind, I never have doubted his strength. Jack is just not as imposing a figure like he was upon his introduction.

    There are others I feel the same about. Marco for instance as well as Fujitora. They're right up there with Jack
     
  11. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    Luffy
    1) Had Nami's water to help
    2) Had an army of homies to defned Nami and himself when he left g4.

    Jack outlasted G4 and then kills Luffy when he's depowered.

    Anyway Cracker was equalizing if not surpassing G4 by sheer quantity of quality biscuit soldiers.

    Inu and Neko are as strong as Cracker individually.

    Oven and Daifuku are the Atmos and Blamenco of their crew, not top commander but not mid range like Pekoms.

    Perospero's true power is unknown
    Compote has never fought anyone.
    Ace is top commander level and died due to using his body as a human shield.
    Jinbei isn't top commander level, he fought a pre whitebeard pirates Ace who even when we saw him on the ship fighting Whitebeard was still at best like Sanji tier.

    He went for DD and his success is unknown.
    1) He could have saved Doflamingo
    2) He could have killed Doflamingo

    He wasn't bruised.
    He wasn't embarassed.
    He wasn't annoyed (well more than normal)
    And he wasn't presumed dead, he had his ship which was in perfect shape, he was in good shape himself despite just getting off fighting the mink battle.


    The fact is that the only information we have is that tsuru, sengoku, and ishoo haven't been seen first.
    And that the world government run newspaper claimed a feat that would make the marines look positive.

    Ishoo and Sengoku could be dead right now for all we know, neither really have much purpose outside of being strong going forward to be honest now that Ishoo got some feats and Sengoku did his speech to Law to help him push forward into the future.

    All we know is that Jack and his ship were fine, ie he clearly wasn't presumed dead, at the very worst he standstood 2 admiral leveled characters + tsuru, at the best he killed them.
     
  12. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    He's going to be imposing when he walks right into a g4 punch and doesn't get pushed back, I'm slightly confused on what Oda was doing, maybe trying to build up the top commanders by bringing out a strong one (while also hyping zunisha and the mink dukes)

    Maybe he was world building the dukes up and zunisha to show that it's not just a yonkou crew game.

    All I know is that we should assume all top tier zoans have awakening, especially those in Kaidou's crew.

    I think the main issue is that Zunisha is underestimated, Zunisha is the kind of thing that made Roger super special with his voice of all, god tier beings that can support him and who he can befriend. Zunisha is arguably the strongest character around and I think that Zunisha and Kaidou are going to be having a fight to hype up Kaidou. (and that what will allow Kaidou to win will be that ZUnisha has been walking for over 1000 years (or was it 1000's) and that his body had decayed in the ocean to make him weaker both offensively and defensively like Jack had originally said.

    Also he might be used as a punching bag (Jack) for Kaidou for some comic relief and then be brought in to fight someone like LUffy as his 1 v 1 of the arc (and then multiple people team up with luffy like drake and kid against Kaidou, which I'm expecting them to lose even as a group, then Kaidou comes back later to 1 v 1 Luffy in a later arc out of wanting to fight him for fun + ruining his war plan)
     
  13. Brian           

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    the OL never disappoints :bookerskully
     
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    real talk

    Jack is probably the only contender atm to Marco (and his super defense regen DF) for the title of "most durable/endurant/hard to put down character below yonkou/admiral tier"


    :ufdup
     
  15. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    Jack and Marco > Admiral tier
     
  16. Weiss dog = god

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    :tupac :tupac
     
  17. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    Don't know what more you need beyond Jack soloing 2 admirals and a vice admiral considering his underlings are brook and nami leveled (the hype man and the girl)
     
  18. Jin22 Well-Known Member

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    When did Jack solo two admirals??
     
  19. Muah HADE BARA BOGE PYA

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    Is taking over a nation not good enough for you.
     
  20. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    Sengoku and Ishoo, along with tsuru since Jack's underlings are middle trio and weakling trio leveled (1 hype man is brook leveled while the other is probably weaker)
     
  21. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    Nation? Nah
    Wano? Yeah

    Wano is literally the strongest nation in the world.
     
  22. Jigen Blue Jacket

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  23. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    Where is Ishoo, Sengoku, and Tsuru now? We know jack was fine and so was his main ship.
     
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    The Luffy and Jack comparison is moot here let's go back to the issue at hand.

    You've said Jack > Katakuri in which case he should have beaten at least one 'Cracker level' Inu-Neko with the = or < relative difficulty than G4. Here's the biscuit rundown: Nami accelerates softness = easier Luffy consumption = forces increased Cracker production. Its essential becomes a matter of how fast Cracker can clap than Luffy can eat. The homies were fucking terrified of Cracker. Thus, whatever escape window/route was created by vivre for Nami/Luffy to run is nullified. Nami's 'help' is in that her being their allowed him to enter Tankman: Full Version at a much accelerated rate in contrast to him eating hard biscuits.

    In the end:
    Cracker after an 11hrs hide and seek battle got one shot by a lethargic G4! Katakuri > Cracker and if recent chapters are any indication he'll not need 12 hours to defeat him. Neko and Inu being on the spectrum of Doflamingo's tier & Jack (assuming 3rd commander) being Cracker leveled can justify having to work.

    Traded delusions for dementia? You used to harp Perospero > Katakuri and his being a top commander. Nonetheless, changing your tune won't save you. The 'monsters' at wedding ala MUM Pirates were Oven, Daifuku, Compote, Perospero, Smoothie and Katakuri. Pre WB Ace = Warlord candidate by merit of his fame & strength. You're also forgetting this was land Jinbe. Everything else you mentioned is speculative. We don't know how timelines.

    If it was propaganda why would the Might Marines admit ships were destroyed in presence of an active, former Admiral and the Great Staff Officer? Is that what you call positive? Do you even realize in terms of official duty Fujitora is the one who would have to act first? Tsuru was watch guard. Sengoku role/title is that of investigator. No lets keep pushing that Issho, Sengoku and Tsuru who were on the same ship with DD who Jack failed to capture are dead. :catfishHow was he fine? He was covered in bandages and forced to retreat back. Talked up a big game on his success and came back to empty handed.
     
  25. Big Bad Wolf Threat Lvl: God

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    he's durable and whatnot, but i had to dock points for using poison against furries.
     
  26. Sherlōck High Functioning Sociopath

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    I never thought he was anything special compared to his fellow Yonko commanders.

    Unless he suddenly turns out to be Kaido's FM.
     
  27. Black Mirror ̿'̿'\̵͇̿̿\з=( ͠? ͟ʖ ͡?)=ε/̵͇̿̿

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    Impressive enough to give Zoro a second Daz Bones fight.

    I hope.
     
  28. Canute87 Nuke Imminent

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    Yeah he was fighting both dukes for days and basically didn't show any signs of fatigue.

    Lucky for him though it wasn't a full moon.
     
  29. Muah HADE BARA BOGE PYA

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    Zou is strong maybe as strong as wano.
     

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