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Asta and Yuno Relationship/Ancestry

Discussion in 'Black Clover' started by Mistshadow, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. Mistshadow AwEsOmE

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    So my theory here it goes.

    Since they never mentioned whether or not Tetia and Licht's child was born between the pregnancy announcement and wedding. Maybe it was born.

    And thus we get their descendant half elf half human blood being passed down the line to someone who is anti-magic in nature, and can use his ancestor lichts 5 leaf clover book and swords.
    Asta. Must be descendent of Licht.

    And we got Yuno, who is a 4 leaf, and uses wind magic, which The sister, Tetia, of the OG emperor used. Must be descendent of OG Emperor
    So he inherited his 4 leaf and her wind magic.

    And that's how we ended up with Asta and Yuno.
    Thoughts.
     
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  2. MysticBlade The one and only truth

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    Agreed, that makes perfect sense.

    Asta inherited Licht's anti magic.
    Yuno inherited Tetia wind magic.

    Though I wonder where and how things will play out now.
     
  3. Mistshadow AwEsOmE

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    I mean it makes even more sense with the witch queen initially believing there was a relationship descendent for asta from licht.
    But then believed herself to be wrong. And he's a random mutation.
    But maybe she was actually right, a psych out, didn't know all the details
    which would explain the inner discussion of asta and 'demon conscious'
     
  4. Luceus Banned

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    Cool analysis dude
     
  5. White Wolf Super Moderator

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    This is the only aspect that makes no sense; as we discussed in the chapter discussion.

    Licht clearly had magic, and a lot of it presumably to be chosen by a 4 leaf clover... on top of being the elves leader that they all admired.

    Now, the panel that shows the previous owner of the swords, clearly shows Licht's shadow, and the two anti-magic blades, which we know from Julius that it'd be nigh-impossible for anyone with magic to truly wield them.

    So what happened?

    Maybe because of Elf magic being ''different'' compared to humans it allowed him to use it.
    Maybe because the two swords were created from his ''personal'' magic grimoire it allowed him to use it.
    In the latter; does that make his grimoire special in the sense that items don't disappear after the spell ''finishes''?
     
  6. Tayimus Number One

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    I'm assuming that Licht could materialize different swords with different attributes. Like say he wanted a Fire Sword? Boom, done. Ice sword? Presto, chill out. An Anti-fucking-Magic Sword? Why not? On top of that, the aspects of Licht's swords would not affect him. Licht wouldn't get burned by his Fire Sword. Wouldn't get frozen from his Ice Sword. Wouldn't get his magic sapped by his Anti-Magic Sword.

    That's the only way I've come up with for this shit to make sense. :lmao
     
  7. Mistshadow AwEsOmE

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    Well clearly, Licht had magic, but keep in mind Licht had a FOUR leaf grimoire.
    There was definitely some kind of side effects that took place, in which his FOUR leaf grimoire changed into the FIVE leaf grimoire that we know today.
    Doing whatever forbidden spell/ritual he went through in transforming into a demon, made it so his swords gained that attribute of draining.
    OR
    The anti-magic swords we know and love today were always like that, EXCEPT with Licht who was able to utilize them because of the nature of his blade magic. And now Asta is only one left who can use them bc of his no magic nature.
     
  8. MysticBlade The one and only truth

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    Elfs are gifted in mana.
    Humans are not that gifted but smart
    Some demons probably are probably just the opposite with anti magic.

    :catsmug
     
  9. Dragonus Nesha Le Rouquin Retired Staff

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    In Chapter 134, the elves had a meal the day before the wedding. Tetia was still very pregnant and Liar mentioned more months until Licht became a father.

    Witch Queen ruled that out back in Chapter 97.
     
  10. Doc Mindstorm Walking In The Air

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    She is, only a character - they can be wrong. Asta is unexplained abnormality given all living beings must have mana, being human/elf hybrid is one of possible answers.
     
  11. Tayimus Number One

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    Except she said so after examining his blood... She has Blood Magic.
     
  12. Doc Mindstorm Walking In The Air

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    I remember that thank you, but in this case "blood magic" is just tool, who knows maybe Light for example did something to his so likes of her won't find him with their magic.
     
  13. Tayimus Number One

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    A tool using blood, to examine blood. :huh

    And yeah, Licht might have done that, sure. However, it's a hypothetical scenario, that you're using to validate your already hypothetical scenario. Going that far just makes it seem unlikely. But hey, it's certainly possible if you just want to disregard the obvious for no reason.
     
  14. Doc Mindstorm Walking In The Air

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    Never heard of red herring?
     
  15. Tayimus Number One

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    Of course. And sure, it might be a red herring. At this point, it's just supposition, though.
     
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  16. Doc Mindstorm Walking In The Air

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    Just like anything else about Asta and Yuno ancestry... Using this kind of logic there is no point of this thread at all.
     
  17. White Wolf Super Moderator

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    Blood is blood, but elves are in essence a different species with different characteristics as a whole (which we've gotten remarks at like how their mana is different an whatnot), so in theory if Licht's children were simply soul-planted into infants who were abandoned (or something different via magic) the blood would probably be a non-factor since it wouldn't be related to the elves at all since they're now human.

    Not to mention seeking the relation to the elves skips over the fact that his kid(s) were with a human and we have no precedence over the fact and what it does to the genetics (such as blood...)

    Either way we'll have to get the history lesson at some point for the elves, and for Asta/Yuno...
     
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