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Barragan vs Starrk

Discussion in 'Bleach' started by UzumakiBarrage2001, Apr 15, 2019 at 9:52 AM.

  1. UzumakiBarrage2001 Member

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    I get that in terms of power Starrk is more powerful but honestly Barragans ability seems waay too broken and Starrk doesn't have a counter for respira. The only argument I've heard for Starrk is that since his wolves are a part of his soul they can't be affected by respira but idk if I like that theory.
    So basically in an all out fight in let's say Hueco Mundo who would win and why?
     
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  2. MShadows Deathbat Moderator

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    Is Respira susceptible to superior reiatsu negation? If so, Starrk would be able to no sell it due to his superior reiatsu in the same way Aizen negated Soifon’s Shikai ability.
     
  3. Basior Well-Known Member

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    Do you really believe the difference between those 2 is such big? From what I recall Shunsui of all people had a problem to decide which of the top 3 is the strongest so I doubt any negation would work.

    The only possible solution is whether the wolves can be aged.

    As much as a Starrk fan am I don't buy Starrk reiatsu-crushing Barragan.
     
  4. Adamant soul Well-Known Member

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    There's no reason Respira wouldn't affect Stark's wolves in the same way as Soi Fon's missile (causing them to explode prematurely), that' s not the issue.

    The question is weather or not the wolves are fast enough to get close to Barragan before that happens? That would fuck Barragan up especially if multiple wolves explode close to him.

    Stark is faster than Soi Fon so he's going to have an easier time avoiding Respira while his wolves go after Barragan. I give the win to Stark every time.
     
  5. Divell King of Trolls

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    Starrk's wolves wouldnt be needed a rapidfire of Cero Oscuras with his pistols and Barragan gets overwhelmed.
     
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    Starrk doesn't need his wolves which should be immune to Baraggan's wolves to some extent.

    Sonido + Cero Metralleta is all he needs
     
  7. UzumakiBarrage2001 Member

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    But Soi Fons missile was a physical object the wolves are part of his soul.
     
  8. Adamant soul Well-Known Member

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    Soi Fon IS a soul herself, so is Barragan and it didn't stop them from being aged.
     
  9. UzumakiBarrage2001 Member

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    If Barragan uses his time dilation field he can potentially slow down any Ceros coming his way. Also there's no way Starrk is going to blitz Barragan. Even if his speed is higher the gap isn't that huge. Remember Barragan managed to sneak up on Soi Fon with sonido and she's pretty fast herself.
     
  10. UzumakiBarrage2001 Member

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    Good point
     
  11. UzumakiBarrage2001 Member

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    Starrk isn't that much above Barragan to the point where he can negate respira and in any case we don't have any information whether superior reiatsu can negate it .
     
  12. shunsui1 Jacking in.

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    It was more like Due to his personality he said that he would've hoped that Starkk wasn't number one just to give him an easier time.
     
  13. UzumakiBarrage2001 Member

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    Even then the gap between Barragan and Starrk definitely wasn't vast enough for Starrk to negate respira
     
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    I'm not saying it is. I'll say it's higher but Im.someone who says he can overwhelm Barragon with ceros.
     
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    What about Barragans time dilation field wouldn't that slow down the ceros?
     
  16. shunsui1 Jacking in.

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    There's still 1000 of them coming at him. I don't see how he's going to stop it. And in all honesty the field was shown stopping only physical "attacks" no kido attacks were attempted by soifon or omaeda to show that it won't be effective
     
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    So you can't conclusively say which one wins basically.
     
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    Side Question: Can second release Ulquiorra regenerate what Barragan ages?
     
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    This thread got me even more hyped and impatient for the Beyond Ressurection forms for these 2.
     
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    In what media? BBS?
     
  21. Basior Well-Known Member

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    Yessir:-)
     
  22. UzumakiBarrage2001 Member

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    Damn I wish I could download the game but apparently it's not available in the play store for some reason.
     
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    I can conclude that kido is his weakness. That was the most effective on him or a strong enough physical attack. Soifons Bankai hit him point blank and his respira aura couldn't s top it.
     
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    It is in fact considering it was stated Kenpachi could negate it.
     
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    Starrk can sonido close to Barragan and fire 1000 ceros, or gran rey ceroes, or cero oscuras and wins. Simple.
     
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    Honestly barragan is fast too if he wants too.

    This fight becomes an attrition game. Stark has to fire a 1000 ceros at once continuosly and hope it overwhelms barragan.
     
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    Scan?
     
  30. Basior Well-Known Member

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    This. Also which version of Kenpachi? As similiar to Ichigo he had quite big Tier jumps throughout the series.
     
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