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Base Hashirama vs Adult Sakura and Tsunade

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Buuhan, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. Buuhan ⋄ C I N D E R ⋄

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    since they both seem to be the craze.
    Location: valley of the end
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    Versions: living Hashirama, war arc Sakura
    • in character
    • Round 1: taijutsu only, hashi has his scroll, byakugou restricted
    • Round 2: golem, wood dragon are restricted, byakjugou unrestricted
    • Round 3: golem and wood dragon unrestricted
    • Edit:I definitely made the last two rounds imbalanced lol, so I’ll rectify
      • Round 2: SM jiraiya, tobirama(1edo), and WA SM Naruto join the fight
      • Round 3: tsunade and Sakura get the aid of A3, A4, SM WA Naruto, And Muu.
    Let’s see everyone’s thoughts here.
     
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  2. Topace Master Caster Of The Sabaku Warlocks

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    He whoops their ass all the rounds.

    Specially round 3 he will wrap katsuyu up like a pretzel and proceed to moonwalk all over tsunade and sakura.
     
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    They won’t even force Hashirama’s power capable of redrawn maps even unrestricted.

    10+ Wood Doppelgangers play with them and Shodai calls it a day.
     
  4. Speedyamell Respect hardwork

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    10%+ katsuyu solos.
     
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    Round 1 could go either way..We have Hashirama who can keep up with Madara in CQC but then again he has to face two Kage level opponents (who hit like a truck) in taijutsu alone.

    Round 2: He tears them a new one with either of his deep forest variants

    Round 3: Hashirama neg diff stomps these children
     
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    Pre or post retcon sakura??
     
  8. Matto Chosen One

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    What reason do we have to believe that Hashirama could even best Tsunade or Sakura individually in hand-to-hand combat? They each possess Heruclean strength that he does not, and while Hashirama is likely extremely skilled in close combat, both Sakura and Tsunade are masters as well. Hell, Tsunade surprised a cornered Madara and blew away his chest with a punch; it's not outlandish to believe she could force her grandfather to block a crippling punch or kick if they're both restricted to hand-to-hand. And it's likely that by adulthood Sakura is just as, if not more, skilled than Tsunade.

    Tsunade and Sakura win scenario 1, certainly.
     
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    what are your thoughts on the following scenarios?
     
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    Even with the Golem and Wood Dragon restricted, they can't compete with his massive Wood Release. Not to mention other ninjutsu such as the Sealing Gates he dropped on top of the Juubi. So, they lose.
     
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    Adult Sakura vs kid Naruto gets locked but this is allowed? Hashirama completely obliterates them with 1000 hands
     
  12. King1 Go Wild

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    I feel like people have yet to comprehend how broken hashirama is, he was the reason why the power scaling went to shit in the war arc, madara was already broken and he stomped the five kage, so for kishimoto to make viewers believe that hashirama defeated madara, he had to make him extremely broken, this guy is almost immortal, if naruto and sasuke didn't get SOSP powers, hashirama would have been the strongest ninja in the whole narutoverse bar asspull from madara and JJ Obito. Now we have people matching him up with SAKURA and TSUNADAE.
    Nevertheless
    Round 1
    Why would hashi even stress himself to engage with them in CQC, when he can create 10 wood clones who are like him to fight them? 5 for sakura and 5 for tsunade, mind you wood clones are different from kage bushin as they are superior to it and even sharingan users can't differentiate them from the original, or even if hashi engages them, hashi would thrash sakura and kill her since byakugou is restricted, i mean Alive madara was able to outright blitz SM Naruto and sakura or tsunadae have no speed feats to suggest that they are faster than WA SM Naruto and that same madara was clashing on equal footing with hashirama. So there is no way in hell they can keep up with him.
    Round 2 and Round 3
    He stomps literally not figuratively, literally stomps them.
     
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    I'm only leaving it open because of round 1.

    Were it not for that I would have closed it already.
     
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    I did it to see what peoples thoughts were so stop acting so prejudiced lol. Post reeks of assumptions on assumptions.
     
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    They have a solid chance here...

    But I can see them losing even THIS

    Hashi is hilariously more durable than either one of them as he has Byakugo tier regen and they dont here. Im not even convinced either of them dish out enough power in Base to mortally wound him through that. Even Byakugo Tsunade was incapable of busting ribcage Susanoo with a single hit,and needed teh cooperation of Weighted V2 A to do anything more than crack it...With Byakugo tier regen, i can see him not imploding from a hit that will be MUCH weaker than that as Tsuande wont have Byakugo here and nor does Sakura. His base strength and speed is more or less comparable to 3T or even EMS Madaras...Same dude who hit SM Naruto so hard and so fast the kid barely saw it coming and was literally planted in teh ground. They arent dealing with this cat easily whatsoever. Sooner or later i can see him wearing them down, without their regen, they arent taking constant unanswered punishment for very long at all...And we all fucking know who wins a battle of attrition if it came down to that with their Byakugos restricted.

    Also...Unless you are REAL serious with that Taijutsu only...And simply mean no offensive ninjutsu...then Hashirama can make Mokuton clones and literally gangbang the girls

    Id say 50/50, maybe 60/40 in Hashiramas favor...With clones if allowed...Hashirama stomps tho.
    Kajukai Korin literally 1 shots with no diff...Tsunade canonically couldnt do anything but beg Gaara to run the Gokage away FOR her against this shit. If it physically touches them, they are also negged by Doton golem crushing force.

    Myojinmon also sealed the Juubis movements...And Edo Madaras...

    Jukai Koton stalemated a COR barrage...At NOWHERE NEAR its full size...

    0 contest here.
    :lmao
     
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    No offence but match ups like this is an insult to the God of Shinobi and if my post reeks of assumptions then care to refute them?
    I would love to see your arguments for sakura and tsunadae
     
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    Also, Hashirama's chakra/stamina way out of their league.
     
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    They succomb to Hashi's massive wood.
    Lel. . Seriously he stomps them. No contest.
     
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    10%+ katsuyu really is underrated:spy.
    Hashi's buddha would literally look like an insect in comparison.
    But no hashi solos because hashi:argh
     
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    *Posts scan of sakura having more chakra than an rsm clone
     
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    See exactly my point. I side with Hashirama, but since you love to make ASSUMPTIONS you wouldn't have known that now huh? I literally said in my post that i was interested to see everyone's opinions regarding the match ups most specifically round 1 since ya know some people(bolded and underlined incase you miss it) actually give them a fighting chance there. Keep it coming my man. Foolish i tell you. :tupac
     
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    Basically, you quoted me to say I was making assumptions to which i clarified that, refute my statements if they were pure assumptions to which you replied that you were supporting hashirama, whom i was supporting in my arguments?
    By people saying she has a fighting chance only means they are just being kind to her
     
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    Has anyone ever summoned 100% Katsuyu??
     
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    Hashirama is a dude who fought Uchiha Madara in daily basis thru almost his entire life. And he is portrayed as generaly better cqc fighter than Madara. And we all know how Madara is a freak about cqc.

    And again comparison between Madara, Tobirama and Hashirama also shows that. Hashirama clearly faster than both women.

    Byakugo duo has great strength and resillience but Hashirama has that 2 attiributes too. And he aint need any seal or jutsu for healing. So it aint has a limit like Sakura's or Tsunade's.

    This round could go to either way but ım a little bir lean on to Hashirama

    Hashirama still has Jukai Koutan, Darkness genjutsu, Hotei no Jutsu, basic mokuton structuresi mokuton golemsi poisonous polen forests. Hashirama low diffs

    Absoulute missmatch. Hashirama's 2 wood clone with their own golem and dragon is quite enough. Hashirama's himself can rest.

    Hashirama zero diffs.

    And ı dont get it why people try to defend Tsunade ? I love Tsunade and ı think she is underrated and ı defend her case so many times. But this time its just silly.

    Hashirama is stronger than Madara and Tsunade didnt able to win against Madara while she had 4 other Kage on her side.

    Sakura <<<<<< Other 4 Kage.

    So ?
     
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    I made the thread because some people give Sakura a chance lol so i wanted to see them detail their arguments. I made three scenarios each with increased difficulty. If you think its a bad match up then go for it, but stop assuming what side the OP is on.
     
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    Cant she shatter Flower tree world? Golem was broken by a TBB she has a solid chance.
     
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    Agreed
     
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    LOL as if Sakura has the power equal of a Bijuudama
     
  29. Vrizu ~Team Uruka~Team Ruka~Team Ichika~

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    Round 1 all ninjutsu restricted? Hashirama got mid diffed only thanks to his byakugou tier natural regeneration

    Round 2, wood clones Jukai koutan + Bringer of the darkness + Kajukai korin GG low-mid diff

    Round 3, Hashi goes home after leaving the battlefield with Wood Golem
     
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    Biju dama at best is mountain level. She has feats of multiple mountain busting power.
     
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