Discussion in 'The NF Café' started by Dark Schneider, Oct 23, 2006.
What ever happened to neutrality? Left-wing extremes are just as bad as right-wing extremes.
BBC is a European thing right?
I think i'll stick to CNN.com for my news.
This confuses me. The first part seemed like a joke, but the second part seemed almost sincere o.o
Omg, BBC is biased towards logic!?!?
This has to be a joke >.> How is being PC and multicultural a bias?
Since being PC often means you don't talk about problem, or can't. And the issue of multiculturalism in the UK (and elsewhere in Europe) is being questioned since there seems to be huge failures, the largest being the muslim underclass.
However, the BBC seems to spin things (as far as I've seen it) that there is no problem with the policies at all.
The BBC is also hugely pro-EU, and pro-everyone-and-their-mother-can-join (the biggest sticking point being Turkey right now). All the institutional corruption, huge unsigned budgets (like for agricultural subsidies) and elitism of the EU is spun as inevitable, as minor annoyances to a brighter future. But, Brits would likely vote to leave the union (and stick with the EEA) if given half a chance. [They voted to enter an economic co-operation organisation -- I don't know if I can call it a free trade agreement -- but it has ballooned over 30 years into a growing federal government almost, it seems, while people were sleeping and regardless of public will.]
Look! An oxymoron!
I think people would hardly worry about BBC being baised when it comes to media biasness. After all, if you want a raal big one just look at Fox News or even better CNN the American Propaganda machine.
I don't give a rats ass about BBC.
The media, in general, has a strong left-wing bias. What's new? I learned to deal with it.
...I recall a Reuters cameraman who was arrested in Israel for encouraging local children to throw rocks at Israeli vehicles so he could take pictures. And the other fellow in the Middle East who badly photoshopped pictures of Beirut to make it look more damaged than it was.
Sure makes you think about the objectivity of the information you use to make decisions about the world. Wag the dog.
The BBC shapes opinion around the world, and in the great forums of Democracy, the perceptions of the people are of utmost importance.
At least it is a bias where it preserves its own values. Or the public funding it relies on.
Publicly funded television. Hm, I wonder how it could be neutral at all?
People here are confusing liberal bias to left-wing bias.
BBC has a liberal bias. The left-wing government in Britain is actually quite conservative these days, so the Beeb isn't slow to criticise left OR right-wing politicians. If anyone knows anything about the history of the Beeb, they'll know that the government hates it (because it's a publicly funded institution that they have little to no control over), and the feelings seem quite mutual. They're constantly at each other throats, so to say that the BBC has political bias is a bit misguided.
At least the BBC admits they have bias... unlike certain other news channels which go under the saying of "FAIR AND BALANCED", and clearly miss the irony of it all.
Bear in mind the fact that the BBC is publicly funded has little to no effect on what or how it reports. Its not like PBS that requires donations or anything like that, you HAVE to fund the BBC because you HAVE to have a TV license, all of which the proceeds go to the BBC.
The BBC is like the opposite side of the same coin with Fox News. I have yet to see news that doesn't have any bias, it's just BBC and Fox News are annoyingly so.
*goes to buy the Washington Post*
Yep. If anything, you would think they would pander to the government, since they're the ones who could change the licensing laws to either decrease the amount the public pay, or remove the TV license entirely... which would pretty much kill the BBC I expect.
Anyway, it was always fairly obvious for the most part... admitting it his honest but fairly stupid. But I would still trust the BBC more than most other sources of news - if anything, it counters my own slightly right/conservative leanings, so I end up with a balanced view of some description.
Its about time. Now I'm just waiting for the NY Times to follow suite
It's really sad that news dosn't even seem to try to be unbaised anymore....I mean its impossible to be 100% unbiased, but you can atleast attempt to balance things out as much as possible. However now-a-days its just screw the neutrality and up with the propaganda (its done on both sides, but its predominantly left-wing/liberal. Most liberals will even admit that). Oh well, I guess thats why I try to get my news from multiple sources to try to balance things out *shrugs*
Reuters ftw..! lol
At least the BBC is leaning towards my views...
Of course the news is liberal biased, and if you think in the terms of CNN being not liberally biased you've already been compromised. The only news channel I can see that's not liberal biased is some of the stuff on FOX, but not even them all of the time.
That shouldn't be how you judge it, you should see stories without a spin so you can form your own opinion.
I totally agree, but I like to hear news first from somewhere that goes with my views, then formulate an appropriate opinion.
I'm sorry. I have to go with the cliche:
Heh ironic timing, I do journalism at uni and I had a lecture and seminar on bias in journalism this morning.
I'm not that surprised the Beeb is so biased. Really, I don't think there is a single unbiased news source in the world. Which is a sad fact, but probably an unavoidable one.
I don't really mind anyway, I need to see several different news sources a day for my course anyway, and when you do that bias is very easy to spot. And it gives me something to talk about in seminars.
It is pretty annoying in this instance though I suppose, because the BBC is supposed to be the news channel for the country, and probably is for most people, and as such it should try alot harder to be objective. It's very irresponsible for them to be so flagrantly biased. Plus PCness pisses me off in all formats.
Ah well... not like it's wasting my money anyway. I never got a license last year at uni and I haven't so far this year either
fox news is so right-wing orientated its funny.
FOX news is a joke
BBC on the otherhand is a legitimate news source even if biased
At least the BBC admits it's bias know openly... but isn't it slightly obvioous that there is no such thing as a 'neutral' source of news erally these days. The news is written by people. People are biased. It's enevitable. Just as well there areso many sources, so ou can always look at another view if you hate any one particular news group.
Not to mention that the liberal party in the UK is generally ignored politacally anyway, it's always the Conservatives and Labour that the competition is between.
Good point, and Tony is considered quite right-wing for a labourer according to
So FOX news is a joke because it's supposedly biased, but the BBC is still legitimate even though it's biased? Interesting...
Anyway this isn't the first news agency to have issues with credibility in the UK. ITV is not allowed to be embedded with British troops because it kept distorting the stories and lowering morale among British soldiers.
BBC pwns fox for two reasons
1.anything with a bristish accent pwns all
2.fox doesnt tell the news it's the republican lapdog while BBC is considered to be an entirely public instute.....
3.I know I said 2 but the british accent literally pwns all...
Well that's just the thing, to some people right wing ideals sound so ridiculous that when someone leans that way they are considered strange or weird especially in college.
I lean more to the right than the left, although I am pretty moderate. Like I don't believe Abortion should be legal, but I believe Prostitution should, I support and I support the death penalty.
But when I say some things about my feelings towards stuff, people laugh because they think so liberally that something I might consider wrong never occured as being wrong to them.
this is all happening because people originally saw the BBC as a government outlet, so the BBC started to break away (otherwise it would suffer from anti-government sentiment) and became more "for the people" hence the left-wing-ness...
although, Channel 4 will ALWAYS be the liberal channel in Britain, no matter how much multiculturalism and stuff the BBC promotes (notice a trend here? British gov't is known for celebrating multiculturalism)
I like the BBC though, they're a reliable information source, even if a little biased at times...but then again, I'm a lefter, lol
*operation white christmas *
pretty much all news are biased. i just find bbc less biased than fox.