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Big mom and Shanks vs Prime sengoku and garp

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by Gledinos, Feb 10, 2020.

  1. Gledinos

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    Location : WCI (there is a lot of food , no starving for BM).
    Mood : serious.
    No restrction.

    Who win ? Back in the days I was putting prime sengoku and garp as yonko level , but with Prime Roger saying he would like to fight both of them , I think it's safe to put prime version of garp and sengoku above the current top tiers :hmm
    I think Marine duo win , with somewhere between high and extrem diff.

    Scenario 2 : Does adding Katakuri or Marco to one of those part change the results? :hm
     
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  2. Beast

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    Garp could potentially solo.

    BMs DF could be used against her, once she starts sweating in fear of Prime Garp... the same one who put end to her old beloved crew.

    Shanks would CoC himself out of this bitch.


    Garp> Sengoku~ Shanks>~ BM

    Mid- high diff for the duo.
     
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  3. Shiba D. Inu

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    team 2 high-diff
     
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  4. Gledinos

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    Marco got blitzed and punched out of his form by Garp who was holding back and Marco is stronger then Kata.


    So they make no difference, except as shields for Shanks, which isn’t more then one attack.
     
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  6. Gledinos

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    ...


    What ? :drake

    Hmm yup. Thought it gave a bonus of durability for shanks since he take less damages
     
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    wHaT :dumbpepe


    Or Marco can play smarter and just heal them as much as he can, but we don’t know the level of heals he can do with his flames.
     
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  8. Gledinos

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    So garp punched marco and marco turned his phoenix mod out.

    What's about it ?
     
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    I think Sengoku or Garp could comfortable take Mom Mid (at worse high diff), Mom for me is the weakest Top Tier; and Sengoku and Garp Prime are close to the strongest, probably on par with Akainu or Aokiji. Shanks is a wild card, but I doubt he beats Prime Garp while missing an arm; at worse he extreme diffs Prime Garp.
     
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    He didn’t turn it off... it wasn’t an option or choice, he was forced out of it with a punch.

    I see my image didn’t load... which is annoying.
     
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    Well prime Garp and Sengoku take this before actuall on panel EOS feats for Shanks. BM is a dead wieght though,but she still can show something good in the end of Wano arc.
     
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  12. Gledinos

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    Any proof for that claim ?

    Oh yeah none.

    Marco regen ability is limited. He can't waste it. Since he was already on the ground he simply turned it off...
     
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    Marines take this high diff.
     
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  14. Beast

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    Bro... I can actually can’t post image links here, keeps telling me to use one with http or some shit like that but bruh...

    Gled...


    Have you been drinking?


    Chapter 567 page 19 last page, you can watch the anime for clearance if you got eye sight problems.
     
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  15. Gledinos

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    I watched the chapter.

    The problem is your interpretation of the fact.
    Marco was not FORCED to take off his form. He was punched , sent flying , and once in ground took it off...

    Simple as that.
     
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    He turned it off before healing his wounds again... fanatic logic Bepo bear.


    Marco was in full Phoenix form before the punch and wasn’t after the punch, you making up stories of him saving up regen is nothing more then headcanon.

    Marco was forced out of his Phoenix form.
     
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    He turned it off because was no longer flying ...

    He don't need to stay in full phoenix form to heal that woubd , you realise that ? :lmao

    Whatever was left on his cheek was like a little bruise , something luffy get after one punch overall .... nothing much.

    Marco can heal that in few seconds. And he could still use blue flames as shown after during his fight with kizaru.

    Most of garp damage was already healed. So he didn't bother. :hehee

    Btw see when he tanked kizaru at the beginning of the war ? Those wounds were serious enough for him to keep healing them , reason why half his body was covered on blue flames...

    It's litteraly stated by oda that his regen is limited. (SBS) And we saw him with bandage after Marine ford. Of course he wont waste them.
    Marco was sent flying by one punsh , then once in the ground turned it off.

    Stay mad :lmao

    :kobe
     
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  18. Amol

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    Marines wins.
    Prime Garp is near equal to Roger/Primebeard so that means he naturally beats anybody he fights.
    Prime Sengoku was paired against Shiki and got hype from Roger himself so he clearly ain't a slouch. His fight with Big Mom can go either way extreme diff.
    So Garp beats Shanks and then helps out Sengoku.
    Marines wins with high diff.
     
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    I can’t really be mad when you’re making yourself too look like an idiot.

    Marcos in full Phoenix form regenerates INSTANTLY, but he didn’t... think really hard, I’m sure you’ll get to the answer later rather sooner.
     
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  20. Gledinos

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    Inb4 Rossela says big mom = Roger

    @RossellaFiamingo

    Come on bruh , defend you Godess :blobchopper
     
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    Or it simply took more time for some wounds to heal.
    This scene is LITTERALY the only time we saw Marco wounds after he take his phonix form away.
    See when he tanked kizaru ? We can see his body covered with blue fire. This show that wounds TAKE TIME to heal.








    Stay mad :lmao
     
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    It really doesn’t though his regen has always been instant... no attack has left visual damage on Marco. Only Garp.

    Lasers and magmas fists couldn’t but Garp could.
     
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    Because he gave more time for them heal them.

    Most of garp damage was already healed. And if he wanted he would have healed it right at the moment, he simply didn't bother since nothing much was left.


    Spoiler:
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    Spoiler:
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    > Garp punches Marco in the face
    > Marco still bruise on his face
    > Gled ‘MaRcO hEaLeD mOsT oF hIs WoUnDs’


    :lmao
    Someone put this in their siggy. According to Gled Marco apparently choose to go out of his Phoenix form and NOT heal himself... because, no reason just because.
     
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    According to gled :
    Marco will not keep his phoenix form more than needed cause his regen is limited as shown in panel and stated by Oda. And he was no longer going to fly straight to garp again.
    Most of the wounds was healed and what was left was almost nothing , so marco didn't bother at the moment ...

    but but .... GaRP toOk AWay hiS pHOenix fOrm :lissenpepe
     
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    Marcos regen limit is unspecified... so... where do we go from here?
     
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    Come on gled of course Garp forced Marco out of full Phenoix Form.
    You are telling me that Marco is prepared to use full Phoenix form when he was just flying but he will voluntarily turn it off when someone as strong as Garp on to him?
    Is Marco suicidal in your opinion?
    Marco's regeneration is limited but what is point of having regeneration if you are not going to use it against a Top tier?
    You are just very weirdly trying to downplay's Garp's great feat.
    Garp is just that strong dude. Oda literally had Garp sit on chair after that scene like a boss. That entire interaction was written to convey that old Garp is a fucking monster. Garp has been putting YFM characters to their places even before likes of Kaido started to do the same which is saying something given Garp wasn't even in his prime at that time. He is basically Marine! Luffy.
     
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    Why was he having bandages in after marine ford ?

    Oh yeah ? Because he could not use his Regen at the time , or at least not as much as before , because he used them too much in Marine ford. Doesn't take too much to guess it.
     
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    Garp and Sengoku take it, even with an FM on the other side. Those two in their prime were monsters the likes of which we've never seen outside of flashbacks.
     
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    S1: IMO Garp > Shanks >= Sengoku >= Big Meme. Marines win, not only is Garp the strongest person here, the Marine duo should have better teamwork too.
    S2: If Kaido using Luffy for baseball practice is any indication, probably not.
     
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