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Big Mom is a monster

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Dellinger, Nov 2, 2017.

  1. Josh Well-Known Member

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    So when someone pant a couple of times in a fight, they are losing now?

    • Ray fought Kizaru that was holding a light sword
    • Kizaru's speed, strength, etc was enhanced by his light fruit
    • Ray defected his light speed kick
    • Kizaru was trying to except using his light fruit

    Not like Ray was going all out either.
     
  2. Donquixote Doflamingo Master Puppeteer

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    After fighting for like 3 minutes yea it does.

    Kizarus light sword has no feats what soever. No reason to believe if he grabbed one of zoros swords he would do any worse.

    Kizaru was not using any of his light speed moves to fight rayleigh at least not on panel. Kizarus devil fruit does not increase his physical stats either so not sure why you mention strength.

    That was a casual attack aimed at a defenseless Zoro laying on the ground but regardless i would hope Rayleigh would be capable of kicking rayleighs leg away in that position.

    That is true.

    No rayleigh was not going all out but he explicitly commented on his inability to help out luffy. Meaning Kizaru was putting enough pressure on him that rayleigh could not leave either and thats all without using his devil fruit. No giant laser beams, no kicks, no nothing just kizaru swinging around a light saber.
     
  3. Amatérasu’s Son Redbeard

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    I don't remember too much about that Rayleigh - Kizaru fight since I only read it once, but didn't Kizaru try to teleport and Rayleigh LITERALLY cut it off forcing him to abort the laser teleport? They were basically locked against each other. Rayleigh couldn't overpower Kizaru, but Kizaru couldn't lay off of him for a second. That seems like the definition of even.

    I selected a pole strictly based on his Monkey King heritage.

    That said, he may know how to use one to at least competence, just by hanging out with prolific pipe and pole users Ace and Sabo.

    I don't know. A person can survive a car crash, but a single bullet can take them out. The forces are spread out over a larger area. I think that's why Whitebeard didn't murder as many people quaking them as one would expect. It's enormous blunt force trauma capable of shattering buildings and islands, but it's a world scale attack not people sized. Thematically it makes sense that he didn't kill Sakazuki with a quake, since Earthquakes and Volcanoes go together.

    I look at bullets as a greater view of how bullets affect Luffy. Round Ball bullets hurt anyone else, but don't hurt Luffy at all. Because round balls on normal flesh are equivalent to pointed bullets on Luffy's flesh. Sufficient force over a small enough area.

    I forget did we ever see bullets against someone who can use Tekkai?

    Then you've got Mihawk casually deflecting bullets with less effort than he'd use to scratch his back.

    Bullets don't really get the respect they deserve. Even the Big Mom Pirates had to develop special bullets to shoot Vinsmokes since they're normally bulletproof.
     
  4. Gohara Ryutoshi

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    That's part of why I consider Big Mam's physical strength feats to easily be the best that we've seen so far excluding Kaidou. A battle worn Gear 3rd Luffy has physically overpowered Fujitora. Gear 4th Luffy has sent both Doflamingo and Lord Katakuri flying. Yet as you said Big Mam's character has brushed off Gear 4th Luffy without much of a problem. :p
     
  5. shisuiuchiha5 Well-Known Member

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    rayliegh was out of shape?the same rayleigh that swam all the way from shabaody to amazon lilly was out of shape?
    kizaru was clearly playing around with rayleigh.

    rayliegh was huffing and puffing because kizaru is stronger.

    rayleigh was lucky that it was kizaru who came to the shabaody island.

    Imagine if akainu came to shabaody?

    It would have been a nightmare for rayliegh hahah.

    akainu was already heavily injured from whitebeard's attacks,fighting blackbeard and his whole crew would not have been a wise decision anyways.

    also blackbeard would have an advantage against akainu especially considering the fact that with his devil fruit he can remove all the magma from the island.

    Blackbeard was clearly overconfident against garp and sengoku
     
  6. TheWiggian World's Strongest

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    Yea she is a monster that can't even catch weakhats. On top of that, she is about to die from starvation. What a beast... I mean monster! Whoa!!! WRGGGHHH!!!
     
  7. Admiral Kizaru One Piece Expert

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    Gilgamesh is banned again?


    Was wondering where he was and why there haven't been any complaints about the term Big Meme recently. :leo
     
  8. J★J♥ Vento Aureo

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    a cookie monster maybe
     
  9. Admiral Kizaru One Piece Expert

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    The Cookie Monster was a legend! Don't insult him by comparing him to BM!!!
     
  10. Mr. Good vibes ZZZZZ

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    For a Trump supporter he was quick to get triggered by anyone who even uttered the name big meme.:tupac:tupac
     
  11. Admiral Kizaru One Piece Expert

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    Yeah the cognitive dissonance between those two things was staggering and something I still don't get it. Trump's major appeal was his ability to piss off opposing groups (Liberals, Establishment Republicans etc etc) partly through the use of similar childish insults, e.g. Little Marco, Crooked Hillary, Low Energy Jeb, Lyin' Ted etc. Big Meme is fairly tame compared to them. :tupac



    The really silly thing about it all was that him constantly bitching & moaning about it actually made people use it more and likely contributed to its soaring popularity on here. It probably would have died a natural death otherwise. :hestonpls
     
  12. Superstars Well-Known Member

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    Reiju tanked a Meme punch enveloped in Prometheus sun rays and said that's not enough!:tupac
     
  13. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    Can't wait till an admiral is defeated in Wano.
     
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  14. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    Kizaru blocked and then had his defense overpowered (this would do no damage but sent Kizaru flying, Kizaru turned to light to avoid crash damage cuz intangibility.
    Marco avoided Kizaru's attacks by blocking it from WB by high speed rotation to create a pocket of air that blocked the laser barrage, along with flying at Kizaru while intangible.

    Garp is > Admiral and it was a blind shot.

    He simply stopped Aokij from attacking, him and Jozu were hit by hax (seastone and internal freezing), Akainu was hit by unnamed attacks.

    Quake Fruit gonna Quake Fruit.

    Let's be honest, Akainu probably had 50+ vice admirals with him considering how many were at marineford and blackbeard vs akainu was postponed for plot.
     
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  15. Typhon "The Roaring Tide"

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    Rayleigh intercepted his mirror. If we consider that stupid impressive, Kuma is one of the fastest characters in the series being able to get between and stop those two.
     
  16. Amatérasu’s Son Redbeard

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    I wouldn't say he was out of shape, he was just old. It's a testament to his power that he was able to perform that well when he had likely deteriorated from his physical prime.

    Kizaru being stronger isn't wholly accurate though, Kizaru couldn't push or finish him off. An Admiral with a Logia and he couldn't even injure Rayleigh or escape the battle.

    I wonder if they would even allow Akainu to intervene on Sabaondy. The nature of his powers would make it highly dangerous for both his fellow Marines and the Tenryubito they were sent to avenge. The right tool, for the right job.

    With the exception of Akainu who had engaged heavily with Whitebeard, the Marine top ranks were still relatively intact. The Three Admirals + Garp the Hero + Sengoku would likely have inflicted heavy damage and casualties against Blackbeard and his new crew even in a losing effort. The truth is nobody wanted that fight right then and there.

    And Blackbeard was definitely overconfident.



    In that case, he and that man have the same mental weakness, inability to understand the power of silence. Sometimes you can win by shutting the fuck up.

    Aye, Kuma's Devil Fruit Teleport is frighteningly fast.
     
  17. TheWiggian World's Strongest

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    Ye Big Labia is a fat beast that starves within a few hours.
     
  18. Avalon The Dark Lord

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    She has some impressive feats that show she is a monster, the way she easily blocked Gear 4 and how her CoC melted those rockets.

    Please approve this post @Marcelle.B

    :)
     
  19. shisuiuchiha5 Well-Known Member

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    marco failed to damage any admiral even after sneak attacking him,jozu at least made him bleed.

    akainu had 50+ vice admirals?how did you come up with this?
    marineford had like only 15 vice admirals
    tsuru garp john giant comil momonga onigumo doberman strawberry yamakaji lacroix ronse stainless mozambia cancer dalmantian bastille maynyard etc.there were few vice admirals
     
  20. PwnGoatVSPandaman Better Than Grimm

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    1) Marco damaged Akainu with the blindside
    2) No admiral damaged Marco outside of sneak attacks.

    No marineford didn't have only 15 vice admirals, just named ones.
    Marineford had around 100,000 "elite troops"

    Heck I'd argue that there were 50 admirals just in the ships considering 50 giant ships surrounded it and those were probably led by vice admirals.
    The lowest people there were tashigi, coby, and helmeppo. Every single person there was pretty much an officer, even the fodder in the crowds.
     
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