Discussion in 'Comic Book Theatre' started by BlazingInferno, Sep 1, 2014.
Gonna see it on Thursday instead of Friday. Right after lecture
Gonna write a review afterwards. Probably detailed depending on how tired I am.
Seeing it in an hour. Im so hyped
Just got back from it.
Shuri alone was funnier than anyone in Ragnarok. She's basically her brother's Q but very happy to make fun of him. A consistently bold character, smartass little sister, but not too annoying.
The action was super fluid and fast, but you could still tell what was going on. Jordan played a villain that was actually sympathetic without whining in half his scenes (looking your way Bucky and Loki). Killmonger was clearly violently insane. But you could at least see his perspective in his decisions. Downside is his name was stupid and everyone seemed to take it seriously. The hero actually learned something from the villain.
T'Challa himself was more relatable than Stark or Captain America but much more unique and kingly than Thor. Partly because they were willing to go more than 30 seconds without cracking a joke every now and then (unlike Guardians 2 or Thor 3). So they could actually develop his character carefully. And really badass in battle but not braggy about it.
Also, it turns out, if you let black people in superhero movies. You get to cast about a dozen actors, borderline overqualified for their roles and on top of their game, nailing every goddamn scene. Instead of washed up comedy actors phoning it in. They got Danny Kaluuya in a minor role. And it made his bromance scene with T'CHalla a lot more real. Lupita Nyong'o and Danai Gurira both played characters about as cool as Valkyrie and Gamora with less screentime than either of them.
Oh, and it had an actually interesting and provenant theme. Security and preserving unique culture vs. helping others and being part of a global community. As well as pretty openly (if briefly) calling the world out on turning a blind eye to black suffering in America and Africa.
Definitely a top 5 Marvel movie. Up there with Guardians 1, Ant-Man, Winter Soldier and Iron Man 1.
Foaming at the mouth holy shit
This is a fucking good film and a bloody good time.
Such a confident film, not even the suspect CGI at the end could change that.
T'chakas suit was fucking boss af
That confirms what Chadwick Boseman said once about seeing multiple past panthers.
I bet it's that weird scene of him walking towards a tree full of panthers with a night setting.
Minor Spoilers (deliberately vague).
Yeah, T'Challa goes through a vision quest and talks with his dead father, looking for answers and moral guidance. Kinda like Thor's vision of Odin in Ragnarok. The other former panthers are just in the background.
I TOLD YOU!!
I feel like its hate crime that Europe gets t first.
We runnin these streets now my dudes
England gets a point for abolishing slavery a year before America.
they always trying to one up a nigga
Abolishing Slave Trade =/= Abolishing Slavery
yoooo this movie was good shit
easily top 3 for me. imma go see this again tomorrow with my bro. and prolly some more after. top tier marvel movie
Fellow brother, can you attest that Killmonger is indeed "that nigga?"
easily my favourite MCU villain loki can fuck off
my nigga jordan killed it. i knew he would pull through
so yes, he is "that nigga"
Killmonger is "THAT NIGGA"
Heimdall can fuck off
There's been a great deal of talk following the album/soundtrack's release. Does the film implement any nusic?
I'm literally not sure if he was meant to be that charismatic as a villain. Jordan is just too nice a guy to hate his characters lol.
Even including the Netflix villains, Killmonger would probably be in or around my top 5 most interesting MCU villains (up there with Cottonmouth, Killgrave, Vulture, Kingpin and Loki). Not that there's a ton of other competition from the movies of course.
The scene where he challenged T'Challa was his best IMO. He just burst in full of fury and sure that he's right and he's gonna win. He instantly marked himself as different to T'Challa by speaking loudly while T'Challa whispered. Plus the 'outsider' America declaring his heritage in a sudden burst of Xhosa was a real smart move. Because being honest was some moral highground he could legitimately hold.
The part where he declared his challenge in Wakandan after faking not being able to understand it. He had confidence, aggression and intelligence. T'Challa totally underestimated Killmonger as a manipulator.
Also, a dumb things about Wakanda in general. Its supposed to be near Uganda, But apparently the worship Bast (Egyptian Goddess) and speak Xhosa (spoken largely in Southern Africa), but its located somewhere around in Kenya (East Coast, near the centre in terms of Latitude). I'm probably closer to Egypt in England right now than Wakanda would be. But they worship Bast...
Its kinda like if a secret ancient society somewhere in around Ukraine spoke Spanish and worshiped Odin.
How do you think Killmogner stands up next to Cage and Cottonmouth?