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breaking your limit

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives' started by Dark Uchiha, May 30, 2007.

  1. Dark Uchiha Already Home

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    what are some of the situations in this manga that no matter what was shown in the panels. That kishimoto broke your suspension of belief.

    limit to 3 things

    1. sakura and chiyo contending against sasori

    2. hidan vs shikamaru the second time around

    3. kakuzu vs naruto.

    thank you, just needed to get that off my chest.
     
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  2. narutofangd Banned

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    No.1 & 3 were beleivable actually


    However No.2 which basically showed that a 1 trick pony could make it into the ranks of the most elite Shinobi that was a little hard to digest
     
  3. Canute87 Nuke Imminent

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    Shikamaru's incredible stamina increase after five days really amazed me.
     
  4. Dark Uchiha Already Home

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    actually.. i wanted to replace my number 1 with kabuto not roundhousing naruto in the ribs before getting rasengan
     
  5. raja6x3 incubus

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    1 n 2 are probable but i just cant beleive that 3 happened... come on, naruto enters, he uses FRS, fails... then uses it again n bingo.... a very strong shinobi falls.... thts PNJ.
     
  6. Sasuke_Bateman Well-Known Member

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    Final Fantasy 10 limit break.
     
  7. Nikitaa destruir para crear

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    1. All that stuff around "Itachi/Kakashi/Sasuke..zoomggg with 5/6/12 genin/chuunin/ANBU member".. thats too WTF.. i mean, they were only KIDS and already that strong?? Kishi really didnt have to exaggerate just to portray them as "ZOMG THE GENIUS PROGIDY"... one is enuff, but not too many..

    2. this is actually general: Jounin and ANBU member completely fail after a few second when fighting an enemy. But when Naruto arrives, he kicks their asses....

    one of few.. tbc
     
  8. Shinkirou Lord of the Eclipse

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    1. The Sasori fight.

    2. The Kakuzu fight.

    3. Omni-slash

    j/k

    Seriously though, 3rd is a tie between the Naruto>Kakashi thing and the fact that nobodies yet realized that if you're going to fight Naruto, to have a kawarimi ready just incase.
     
  9. natwel Deux Ex Machina Lolz

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    More like Final Fantasy any version limit break.


    But for some reason in 9 they changed it to trance, then changed it back.
     
  10. Vandal Savage The Magician Supporting Staff

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    1. The Kakuzu fight

    2. The Hidan fight

    3. The Sasori fight

    Funny how so many of these unbelievable fights involve Akatsuki. I guess this shows that Kishi made them way too powerful and it is too soon for the Konoha Chuunin to be taking them out.
     
  11. Sharinganmaster29 yoruichi sama's #1 fan

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    i dunno if the sasori fight was unbelievable...but how naruto advanced in a few a dayz from chunin level to kakashi's level i would really like to know
     
  12. molten Unranked and dangerous;Shoichi

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    The unbelievable thing is how Naruto can be of any level near Kakashi or any other Jounin for that matter, when all he does is Jutsu training. You may have a Jutsu that wins all. But you don't have that physical ability to use it. Have we seen Naruto train his body? or Taijutsu?
     
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    I would have to say Naruto vs Kakuzu too... didn't he have 2-3 hearts left before Naruto did the kazegan to him? Took out all hearts?? At once?? What? <__<;; Not impress.
     
  14. Jashin-sama I AM YOUR GOD

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    The whole Chunin taking down S-class criminals thing
     
  15. PDQ Meta-Debater

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    1. Akatsuki members taking down Bijuu and fully developed Jinchuuriki. GamaBunta couldn't beat a fully powered Bijuu(shukaku and Kyuubi) yet a couple of random Akatsuki nin that noone seems to know their reputation goes and knocks one out.
    2. Naruto training 1 jutsu to surpass Kakashi's 1000.
    3. Akatsuki's existence: the sheer number of Shinobi seemingly comparable to Kages somehow being alive at the same time given the rarity of shinobi even nearly that strong.
     
  16. BlueSky Rena A Girl of the East (Asia)

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    right on the money bro, right on the money :amuse
     
  17. Shamandalie //////////////////////////////

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    That's what annoys me the most. Being Jounin/ANBU doesn't mean a damn thing now. The only thing that counts is whether you part of the main cast or not. :notrust
     
  18. O-Ren <b>HAS CP!</b>

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    3. kakuzu vs naruto.
    naruto is mere chunnin level, kakuzu has had tons of experience
     
  19. Tsukie Member

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    Here's how I unfortunately disagree with the consensus that Naruto having that big-bang jutsu and lacking in other shinobi skills is a huge downfall.

    How did Naruto and Sasuke end their fight? They charged at each other head-on. CS2 Chidori vs. KN Rasengan. Even at that point, Sasuke had the Sharingan, and the speed to counter-act a head-on attack, if I remember those chapters correctly.

    Kishimoto will follow the archetype of every single 'fighting' manga. Head on collision. Who's Kamehameha is stronger? And I'm sure that in his mind, a climatic battle will involve another head on charge, with Naruto's Wind-Elemental Rasengan vs. Whatever nuke Sasuke has ('that' jutsu that Orochimaru stopped?), and then there will be a big explosion the size of a small continent, a panel will go white or black, and the fight will be resolved.

    So really, in an ideal world that Kishimoto created, Naruto should not in any way defeat Sasuke, or Kakashi for that matter. But due to his style of storytelling being generic and cliched in the sense that it follows the same vein as any other 'fighting' manga. . .Naruto having that badass nuke is huge, even if he is outclassed in every other category.

    As long as the classic 'head-on charge, slam energy balls into the opponent's, and see who wins' is still a popular and climatic way to end a battle, Naruto is far stronger than he should be.
     
  20. Spencer_Gator Pain is a god.

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    Naruto missing Kakuza the first time and then hitting him like 3 min later...
     
  21. Aokiji Well-Known Member

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    Kakuzu vs naruto is the chapter that ruined naruto.
     
  22. Kumomaru Hidden Cloud ANBU

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    1) How ridiculously boring it has been since Hidan bit it. Come the fuck on enough with the "suspense" already. In order for it to be suspense something has to actually happen after you "suspend something". Don't just show people talking for crap's sake. I've been bored out of my skull waiting for something pivitol to happen. Maybe a jutsu here or there ever? Maybe a revelation a character has discovered? An on screen decapitation? An on screen pwnage? All we've seen so far is aftermath after aftermath after aftermath.

    Can we at least make jokes? Add humor? Comic relief anyone? Maybe something to keep the reader;s attention? Wait that's something a good writer would do... xD

    Orochimaru being taken down in THE MOST ANTI-CLIMACTIC FIGHT EVER. Seriously come the fuck on xD.

    2) The amount of "...." lines is fucking killing me.

    Kisame: "hey Itachi I just had a gang bang"
    Itachi: "......"
    Kisame: "I bet you've never had one you have a small penis!"
    Itachi: "....."
    Kisame: "Nothin huh?"
    Itachi: "....."

    FFS SPEAK DAMNIT. If you're going to riddle the manga with speaking scenes MAKE THE CHARACTERS ACTUALLY SPEAK! Crapnuts it pisses me off xD

    3) Why would ninja stand cowboy showdown style and reveal all of their secrets to another ninja before trying to kill him/her?

    First of all so far every "evil" Ninja we have seen has stood there and either completely told the enemy how to beat them and or gave subtle hints. giving away their biggest secrets. Everything is right out explained when you see it. But it's piss poorly explained.

    Kakazu: "Bwahaha I have 5 hearts bitches here's the strategy guide you have to kill all of my hearts and attack from above for massive damage!"

    Hidan: "I am immortal I have inside me blood of kings! Oh shit I'm immobile.. blast!"

    Kidomaru: "I have armor that comes out of my sweat glands and I shoot chakra webs that are attached to my body! Perfect to hit me with Jyuuken!"

    Sakon: "My brother lives inside me he can attack from where he pleases! I will now stand here for 20 frames and taunt you!"

    Jirobou: "I absorb chakra muahahah I'm slow :| "

    Kimimaro: "That's right bitches I manipulate bones! ewwww! They're harder than steel and I can maipulate them any way I please.. although I'm dying so just dodge and my HP will slowly go down to 0!"

    Secondly WHY ARE NINJA STANDING COWBOY SHOWDOWN STYLE? Seriously what the fuck. 20 frames of Cowboy showdown waiting for the other ninja to do something. E.g. Naruto had a billion clones againts Kimimaro... and he attack 4-5 at a time? Stupid.

    The ONLY ninja who has taken advantage of the cowboy showdown style antics of other ninja is Shikamaru. Lets recap.

    Shikamaru's first fight in the prelims: Stupid female genjutsu ninja, stood there with Shikamaru in the genjutsu and decided to go cowboy showdown style on his ass. Shikamaru caught her with Shadow imitation and bashed her head in.

    Shikamaru's second fight vs Temari: Temari stood there Cowboy showdown style not attacking she attacked maybe once or twice. She should have been concentrating on getting shikamaru out of the forest... pfft fuck that she could go Cowboy showdown style on his ass! cue Shadow imitaion match=ovar.

    Shikamaru's third fight vs 9 Sound nin. They got there and stood Cowboy showdown style and yet again got caught in Shadow imitation and then pwnt by Asuma... PnJ saved Shika twice but still it was dumb.

    Shikamaru vs Tayuya. Seriously nothing says Cowboy showdown more than this fight. Shikamaru pwnt her until she cheated with CS2 and even then he almost won.

    Shikamaru vs Hidan. Hahahah hidan's Jutsu screams Cowboy showdown (with a twist) and he was killed by dun dudda duh! Shikamaru!

    Ninja's standing there out int he open is lame. Ninjas standing there out in the open then charging someone is lame. The lack of gejtsu when this happens is lame.

    Ninja's in Cowboy showdowns is LAME.
     
  23. RAGING BONER Sexual Tyrannosaurus

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    words of pure beauty.
     
  24. Katalyze Can't touch this!

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    Easily Sasuke vs Orochimaru, even though he aint dead, that really ruined it.
    The other bad aspect is how 40% of the recent chapters are wasted by panels with useless characters going "...." which is pointless.
     
  25. Disquiet deeply unsettling

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    I didn't mind Chiyo+Sakura vs. Sasori (apart from the little "oh by the way he let himself die" aside, which ruined it), Shikamaru vs. Hidan 2 or Naruto vs. Kakuzu; but Naruto being on Kakashi's level? Nahh. Half-mastering one extremely powerful but very self-damaging technique doesn't mean you've surpassed anyone on the whole, regardless of whether you've "done something nobody else can do" along the way.

    Don't get me wrong, in time Naruto could surpass Kakashi for real, but at the moment I just don't buy it.

    Mind you, it doesn't help much that we haven't really seen Naruto go all out for a whole solo fight at all in part 2.

    Oh, and yes. While I don't dispute that Sasuke beating Orochimaru made sense, what with Sasuke being extremely hardcore at this point and Orochimaru being really sick and all, that fight was far, far too anti-climactic. It was just too easy for Sasuke to win. I get that there's no real way that Orochimaru is fully dead per se, particularly since it was explicitly stated that he wasn't (he's just been "taken over" or sth), but honestly.
     
  26. anbu-assassin Konoha #1 Technique Specialist

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    1 and 2 are believable, 3 well that was just disappointing, too rushed, naruto growth was too fast that it just wasnt believable anymore.
     
  27. Batosai New Member

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    The main thing is lack of consistancy. Mainly that Oro could create a clone of the long dead 1st hokage, but could not manage to clone an uchiha with a live one living in his base. Or the fact that he has to take over sasuke's body all together and can not follow the already proven successful method of obtaining the sharigan demostrated by kakashi.
     
  28. Larisha Otogakure's village idiot

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    1) Orochimaru vs. Sasuke.

    2) Kakuzu vs. Naruto

    Both of those were just sort of...'Uh, wtf?' moments.

    Actually, the first one was a 'Fuck you Kishimoto!' moment. xD
     
  29. MS User Kakashi Copy Ninja

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    kakashi isnt onla a jounin but also an ex-ANBU member
     
  30. MS User Kakashi Copy Ninja

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    Kakuzu even fought the First and survived!
     
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