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Broly kinda ruins future bad guys

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Plague, Jan 4, 2019.

  1. Plague

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    Fam can get over 1000x stronger, mid-fight, for no reason.

    I see this Moro guy is a hax/magic type, but I'm talking more along the lines of a strong villain in ki.
    Imagine if Broly did the God ritual, or trained in the Time Chamber. Why not both? What could stop him?

    I don't want to sound like a hater, but that's too ridiculous even by Dragon Ball standards. (For a Hero or Villain) That's such an irresponsible thing to put into your own story.

    Now if shit ever goes south they can just ask Broly for help.
     
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    "What could stop him? "

    :torilol
     
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    Since when has ridiculous power jumps ever stopped the series? Remember when Frieza was the baddest thing in town? A16 would've killed him on accident.

    Most of the Z fighters, especially during Super have gotten stronger with no concrete evidence on how. They just did. Its way too late in the game for power creep remorse now.
     
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    Not unless Toriyama pulls a multiversal reset... :mjpls:
     
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    In which the cycle just begins anew. :catfish
     
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    In all seriousness, it just feels like now the audience is going to be asking "Why didn't they get Broly?" from here on out. Power jumps are always going to be a thing, but Broly gets them at a rate far beyond anything else. Unless the new villain always has to have a fusion defeat them, and even then the audience will just say "Just give Broly the God ritual!"
     
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    In all seriousness...Broly is done for now.

    He will either come back and pull a Hit, and completely and totally just have zero ability to vastly improve himself in short periods of time and we are supposed to act like it never happened in the first place, or Broly just will never come back or fight again PERIOD.

    Just how anime works :catshrug

    Broly cant keep his growth rate...He just cant. Same way Gohan isnt allowed to make SSB tier jumps in a few hours despite the fact he did it with Piccolo.
     
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    Hit with developing GER like powers and achieving Ultra Instinct. Colgate Hit would solo the multiverse.
     
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    Cowboy Goku and Vegeta would be fun :laugh.
     
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    What's your argument for that? Trying to impose the standards of regular villains / foes on Broly doesn't work in this case, buddy!
    If we've seen Broly taking the decision to train hard like Goku & Vegeta in the movie's epilogue, then I would say "he can't keep his growth rate", but we already know that he won't train or fight until his next appearance.
    Saiyans are the STRONGEST race potential-wise, and Broly is the pinnacle of his race ... his MAXIMUM Zenkai / growth will always be there. :dotell
     
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    History :catshrug
    Well...He failed like every other villain/foe did :catshrug
    And Gohan is/was/has been the pinnacle of that potential and always falls off when he needs to.

    Broly is not exempt from the writers incompetence either :kermit
     
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    This. Gohan was always commented on having "insane potential" supported by supplementary sources (guidebooks, interviews, etc). "Potential" is an overrated term anyway, it just means that you have a ton of dormant power waiting to be gift-wrapped to you as the plot demands and if you don't have a gigantic raw power level advantage on your side, you'll go down hard, just like Gohan did. And even when Gohan IS much stronger than his opponents, there's no guarantee that he won't job and fuck it all up, either. Broly is no different.
     
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    Why hello there :catsmug
     
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    I'm telling you now

    Goku will lose God Ki and progress further with UI

    Vegeta will progress with God Ki

    And Broly will progress Super saiyan to eventually unlock SS4 which will be called SS primal or something
     
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    Not really! Take Jiren for instance. Nothing suggests that he potentially has other form(s) after what he had shown in ToP!
    Yes, Broly got his ass kicked just like Jiren, but by whom? A powered-up SSB Gogeta! Now, here's what makes Broly's case different from other villains/foes like Jiren & Hit: Since he is a Saiyan, we already know that he certainly can go beyond what he had shown in the movie (FPSSJ).
    Except that "being THE Strongest" has never been part of who Gohan IS :carlton
     
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    No
    UI is an angelic technique...Used by Gods of Destruction..And is regularly referred to as "The state of the Gods" or "The godly realm" or some similar nomenclature

    Vegas odds have it at being, fun fact, a God Ki based form

    This post makes no sense
     
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    And a hello to you as well my friend :catlove
     
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    Kay
    Except when it is :gokuyeaboi
     
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    Broly will be plot nerfed like with many others
     
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    Still, nothing proves the necessity of god ki to attain and master UI. In fact, UI Omen appears to be Base Goku using the basic level of the said "technique".
     
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    Also broly doesn’t have the same desire for fighting like goku and vegeta hell it was even stated so we already know he gonna be plot nerfed like gohan
     
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    Oh plz AT nor Toei don’t give a shit about that
     
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    the thing with potential is , it easiely can be changed by simply saying that he reached a level where his growth rate isnt that high anymore.
    no further explanation needed.
    this is db afterall.
     
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    Not anymore with Broly around :catfish

    Most power Gohan ever got with no formal training whatsoever was 1,307

    Broly with no training whatsoever makes (outdated) scouters explode (At least 20,000)
     
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    Give Broly this



    Don't need other stuff.

    Broly won't have access to his SSJ FP form, at most, he is going to get access to his SSJ form but like UI Goku, fail to access his other forms.
     
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    Heres whats gonna happen

    Broly will not train and move past the power he has shown so far.

    So, either Broly will appear later with basically the same power as was shown at the end of the movie, which would be to either stalemate/hold off someone or lose so he can hype someone else

    Or, someone who can be weaker than him (but stronger than Goku/Vegeta), can come in vs. Broly and kill him while he is sleeping/in his base form.


    Yes, his growth is absurd, but they have multiple ways to deal with him/it.
     
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    That's like asking "Why didn't Elder Kaioshin just unlock everyone's potential in the RoSAT leading up to the ToP?" The fans realize these powerups exist but that they also exist thematically to satisfy certain story conditions at certain times. While they could logically be used as trump cards in any conceivable situation, we accept that they won't because that's not the nature of this story. It's so simple the eight year old target audience gets it.
     
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    Because plot isn't gonna let him. He'll get stronger but he'll still be "possibly/might be stronger than Beerus"

    You literally see him get nerfed it in his fight with Gogeta. He powers up mid-fight against SSB Gogeta but still gets wrecked. He wasn't able to surpass him despite overcoming SSJ and SSG in a span of a couple seconds earlier in the movie. Why? Because plot said so
     
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