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Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku VS LSSJ Broly with Kaiokenx10

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  1. Angelion

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    LSSJ Broly from the first movie (Movie 8) but is 10x more powerful since he can comfortably use Kaiokenx10
     
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    We're starting to jump into fanfic territory here...
     
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    Does Broly get the Flying Nimbus and battle armor as equipment?
     
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    Lmao

    Hey, but being serious; this is basically an SSJ2 level fighter with an x10 amp against SSJ3 Goku. Broly stomps if we assume he can control Kaioken just fine.
     
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    Ssj3 is common touted as being 4x stronger than Ssj2 so if Broly was pretty much as strong as a Ssj2 then you give him 10x on top of that with Kaioken then I think it's pretty obvious that Broly takes this with ease especially considering the strain Ssj3 puts on Goku.
     
  6. Angelion

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    But LSSJ Broly isn't SSJ2 tier

    and nah, not fanfic lol! This is a Great Ape LSSJ Broly in disguise. Broly had a tail after all
     
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    How is he not? He completely demolished SSJ Goku, SSJ Vegeta, SSJ Trunks, SSJ Gohan & Piccolo at the same time. That certainly isn't SSJ1 tier so what is it then?
     
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    So did the Cell Jr's (minus Gohan) and Bojack (minus Goku) and we saw what a SSJ2 did to them, not to mention Cell himself. Bodying a bunch of SSJ1's is not a SSJ2 tier feat not even close.

    M8 Broly would be top SSJ1 tier, only below Perfect Cell and Bojack.

    M10 Broly on the other hand, is SSJ2 tier due to beating down SSJ2 Gohan
     
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    Canon Goku or Toei verse Goku?

    One would rape him good, the other would get raped badly.
     
  10. James Bond

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    Those were 1v1 battle's not 1vsX so bad comparison.



    Look at how effortlessly Broly dodges attacks from two SSJ1 tier fighters and he's not even moving from his spot.



    Here we see a Kamehameha from SSJ Goku point blank range and you can see Broly makes no effort to block any of it and once the smoke clears Broly is completely unscratched and has a smile on his face. When Goku fired a Kamehameha against Raditz who was 3x stronger than Goku he still had to block it despite the fact he was 3x stronger and here above Broly just full on tanks it point blank with zero damage.



    To say this man is in SSJ1 tier is just downright silly also the Z fighters actually did alright against Cell jrs (barring Goku who was exhausted from fighting Cell) and the only ones who really got out classed by Cell jrs were Yamcha, Tien and Krillin.
     
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    Still shows them being near effortlessly overwhelmed (especially in Bojack's case) by enemies that are definitively NOT SSJ2 tier, not even close.
    Yeah and?

    Perfect Cell stomped Vegeta and Trunks in a similarly dominant fashion while he basically wasn't even trying.

    Not to mention he was equal with Goku when he was still holding back considerably. Still not SSJ2 tier.
    His PL rose to like 900 before he fired that Kamehameha. :notrust

    Raditz's PL was only 300 higher, not even 2x stronger, much less 3x and it still did basically nothing when it hit his hand.

    You don't need a SSJ - SSJ2 tier power gap to no sell a special move like that.
    No it isn't, you're just massively under-selling how big the gap between SSJ1 and SSJ2 is.

    Perfect Cell made Vegeta and Trunks look like total garbage, rivalled Goku when he was still holding back considerably and was able to spawn Cell Jr's that could overwhelm the SSJs.

    But when he fought an actual SSJ2, he was made to look like a fucking joke. Even after he got a zenkai (and became Super Perfect Cell) he was still weaker than HALF POWER SSJ2 Gohan.
    Uh no they didn't, they got completely overwhelmed.

    Vegeta, Trunks and Piccolo were the only ones who could even somewhat defend themselves and they still got wrecked. And these things were a mere portion of Perfect Cell's power.
     
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    Oh, M8 Broly.

    Goku likely stomps in that case.
     
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    Movie 8 Broly is Perfect Cell level, SPC is basically SSJ2 for Cell, so let’s assume it’s a 2x jump in power

    SSJ3 is SSJ2 x4 (which makes it 8x power boost overall)

    Broly has Kaioken x10 here, so he’s still stronger than Goku
     
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    The gap is 2x, the gap between SS2 and SSJ3 is much bigger.

    And Cell jrs were pretty much as strong as Cell just less durable.





    Cell got obliterated by Goku's Kamehameha which wasn't point blank like it was against Broly and only survived because of his Namekian regeneration. You say I am underestimating the gap between SSJ1 and SSJ2 but I think you are underestimating Broly's performance against the Z fighters.



    Goku struggles due to his exhaustion from fighting Cell like I said and if you watch you'll see that they actually do alright against the juniors with the humans finally getting overcome. The only instance I really see is the junior deflecting Vegeta's final flash attack with ease but other than that they trade blows fairly evenly.
     
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    Stop using shitty SEG numbers.
     
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    No it isn't. The SEG multipliers are trash.
     
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    How many times more powerful as a SSJ1 is Goku in SSJ3 form? 8x? Buu Saga Goku though, which is already more powerful than Perfect Cell

    LSSJ Broly, you say is Perfect Cell level. I'd say he's above that but is far below SPC or Cell Games SSJ2 Gohan. Regardless, his LSSJ is multiplied x10.

    So you have a Buu Saga Goku who is significantly more powerful than his Cell Games self, who can turn SSJ3... which is 8x more powerful than SSJ1?

    And you have this LSSJ Broly x 10 in power
     
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    Honestly, since I have SSJ2 5x SSJ I don't think LSSJ Broly is scratching SSJ3 Goku lvl even with a KKx10. an x20 would suffice though.
     
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    Wait which broly is this? I assumed it was movie 8 Broly. If it’s movie 10, then Broly rapes tremendously.
    he is a ssj2 level fighter there, and ssj2 is just 4x weaker than SSJ3, which is an 8x ssj multiplier.
     
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    Cell was holding back a shit ton during his fight with Goku
     
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    To the point it legit drained his stamina and made him exhausted?
     
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    He got exhausted because he had a hard fight while being suppressed.
     
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    You can’t plug SPC between SSJ Gohan who was much weaker than Perfect Cell and SSJ2 Gohan who who was stronger than SPC.

    2x is way too small for the possibility of; SSJ2 Gohan>SPC>>Perfect Cell>SSJ Gohan

    No fucking way both Cells fit in that tiny gap.
     
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    He wasn't THAT exhausted though. Man was still confident he could beat Goku to the point where he told Goku to eat a senzu so they could continue. He was very suppressed though, since to Gohan it looked like Goku and Cell were still in the warmup phase
     
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    M10 proves SSJ to LSSJ >> SSJ to SSj2

    add 10 x on that, Broly crushes multiple SSj3 Goku
     
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    And if that somehow negates my comparison.



    We know Frieza was still holding back at this point but he still had to block Goku's Kamehameha and quite clearly recieved considerable damage from it even though he was stronger than Goku at that point which shows Kamehameha is effective against seemingly stronger opponents which shows how impressive it was that Broly tanked it point blank with zero guard up.



    Again another instance of Kamehameha coming in effective against seemingly stronger opponent.



    Even Jiren don't want none of Kamehameha.

    That's cause Gohan didn't realise he was stronger than his dad back then.
     
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    Oh this is Movie 8 Broly
     
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    M10 broly had zenkai boost and isn't adult SS2 gohan weaker then teen SS2 gohan anyways?
     
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    Talking about multiplier of the form

    And no, Gohan in M10 isn't the same as canon Gohan
     
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    M10 adult Gohan was actually stronger than his teen self iirc
     
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