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Can alchemy really be done?

Discussion in 'Fullmetal Alchemist' started by darkkakashi14, Mar 2, 2005.

  1. darkkakashi14 Dark Suicidal Soul

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    Im not sure if this sounds dumb to anyone but who thinks alchemy can be done? How many of you think that? :confused
     
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  2. Blue Well-Known Member Supporting Staff Retired Staff

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    In that you mean Alchemy as a equilivant to magic, of course not.

    But go ahead and call it chemestry or science, and the answer is yes.
     
  3. Kuchiyose[NO]Jutsu Roller Coaster Ride!

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    well I was reading something from I think it was Animerica and they listed the ingredients including Milk, sulfur and more (I can't remember) and you'll be set for equivalent trade. :laugh :wink
     
  4. Rurouni Mushishi

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    Part of me says yes (as in the alchemy done in FMA) and part of me says no (in which I turn to chemistry and etc.). I'll believe anything from anime :smile-big
     
  5. eternalblade Philosopher

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    In the real world Alchemy was one of the earlier forms of chemistry, and while it was largely influenced by superstition and unnatainable dreams like element reconstruction (at least, it was a few thousand years too early, or more, as that involves some serious sub-atomic manipulation), it still made some good progress in the causes of science, including the invention of gunpowder.

    As far as the alchemy excercised in full metal alchemist, the simple answer is that it is not possible. While it does carefully follow rules of matter (there is a constant amount of matter in the universe [assuming the universe is not expanding], and matter cannot be created or destroyed, only changed - thus 2 pounds of something can absolutely never become 3 pounds without adding matter), it does not follow the rules of energy. Energy has the same limits as matter, by energy I mean all motion, heat and and similar things "the power to do work." There is a limited, set amount of energy in the universe (barring nuclear fission effects), energy cannot be created or destroyed, same as matter, only changed. For example, we take energy from food and use it to apply kinetic energy (force) to our surroundings to move. The kinetic energy passes into the ground, doors, whatever we touch, and so on and so forth. I'm not talking magic or auras, just the physical force behind even the lightest touch. So how does this apply to alchemy in full metal alchemist? Alchemy (if it were possible in that style) would require immense energy. Often the alchemical processes that are used in that series shift items at a sub-atomic level, something that or best scientists have extremely limited ability to mimic. There is no source of energy accounted for in FMA, or any meantion of balance in energy.

    In my personal oppinion, I think science might eventually be able to mimic some of the things done in FMA, like turning coal into gold. However, I think that it will always take place in a lab with expensive technical equipment, it will always take immense energy and a great deal of time. People will never control it with mere knowledge and no equipment, and a circle drawn on the ground will never make a difference one way or another.
     
  6. crabman Jamin'

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    I think the highest natural number of electrons is like eight, and scientists somehow got it all the way up to like 10 or 11. Technically that is alchemy since you are changing matter. So ya, i guess alchemy is kinda possible.
     
  7. HinataFanBoy Aint Depression A Bitch?

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    well it used to be considered a science didnt it?
     
  8. eternalblade Philosopher

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    ouch, not exactly. There can be a lot more than eight electrons, they just run in limited numbers in rings. I believe the number increases as you get to further orbits, but is low closer to the nucleus. However, the artificial elements do indeed exist, and are created in a somewhat similar manner to FMA the series making them "alchemy" by FMA standards.

    But don't be mislead, real alchemy is dead. There are no more advances in alchemy because we now use chemistry.
     
  9. darkkakashi14 Dark Suicidal Soul

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  10. mayhemrules Batouusai Himura

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    yep 100 points to eternalblade
    :smile-big
     
  11. Masaki Mugiwara Kaizoku

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    Alchemy's main focus was to turn ordinary metals into gold. Sometime in the late 1900s, I believe, some college students used some energy, I forget which, and actually turned a small portion of the mercury they had into gold. It's possible, but the amount it took to get the materials was far higher than the worth of gold itself. Thus, no equivalent exhange.
     
  12. Takeru! Happy Birthday, Grandma!

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    The principle of Alchemy may eventually be possible, since essentially it's trying to change one form of material into another. The simplest idea is being able to create a controlled form of radiation, as well as a reverse form of it. But just cause it's possible to think about how to do it, its not something that can just be done.
     
  13. Hakuzo The Kind

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    can alchemy be done? i'm not sure, but when i sit down and learn from the net i'll be the first to try. (but i'm so slow, so i might not get around to it :)::
     
  14. Lucero del Alba <b> <color=red> THE <blink>notlame</blink> AVENGER

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    'BillyWitchDoctor.com have One convenient locations...in Africa'

    'That crazy hat for chicken...'

    'Arise chicken...chiken, arise'

    'Yes....Ultra Mega Chicken...no, shhhh...he is legend'

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    So you you see, alchemy is possible. Through this very alchemy *cough* African voodoo *cough*, Ultra Mega Chicken was returned to life, where he immediately smashed Carl under his Ultra Mega...foot.
     
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  15. Hagane no Renkinjutsushi Nigga, fuck yo couch!

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    No, just no. Trust me.. I tried.
     
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  16. Hakuzo The Kind

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    u sure u tried w/ all ur might? i think that sometimes u have to be gifted w/ the talent to preform Alchemy. would that be wrong?
     
  17. TenshiOni Active Member

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    Of course ALchemy from FMA is real......if u have the Philosopher's Stone like me.... :shifty
     
  18. konohasno1 So much Chakra!!! =]

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    Come on guys.

    Alchemy can't be done, though I wish it was so. Alchemy is a cartoon, it can't be done.
     
  19. Muramasa007 A true Narutofan!!!

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    of course not its fiction...but the equivalent exchange thing is true.
     
  20. the original fusan Clan:Shadow

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    my minds tellin no, but my body, my body tellin me yeah nah but it would be nice but i dont think so
     
  21. KUREIGU New Member

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    well in medievil england you could study it as a degree
     
  22. Arcanite New Member

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    I practice alchemy all the time. On my way to work, I make a stop at McDonalds and turn my $5 into a burger, fries, and soda. Oh ok, I wasn't practicing the alchemy, it was McDonald alchemists inside.
     
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    I doubt that a person can perform alchemy just by capping hands :p ...
     
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    Of course not. even though in theory alchemy is just the conversion of base metal into gold (read all about it as wikipedia.com), the human body is not a medium in which the entropy of the universe can be converted into energy of sub-atomic transformation. :smile-big
     
  25. Oujisama ★~평화의날~★

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    The real alchemy is just a bunch of crazys doing experiments in their basement. Its sorta twisted actually.
     
  26. Gaia DEIDARA IS ALIVE!!!!

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    It would be cool if I could do alchemy(evil thinking)
     
  27. moonslash1718 SMEXY S.O.B ninja

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    i think alchemy could happen if u knew how to do it
     
  28. Meijin Smile

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    Have to agree with you on this one.
     
  29. moonslash1718 SMEXY S.O.B ninja

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    actually im going to have to disagree with Devilish_Angel and Zeh because even though in the manga they make all magical and stuff thats bs but u could do it if u really trird hard and it wouldn't be of equal value it would be way harder.
     
  30. faults Healing Vision

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    Actually, making crystal meth (or some kind of drug) is a form of alchemy. I read it somewhere before at school, but I can't remember from what :/.

    It would be so awesome to do alchemy though, I'd be making a lot of swords and shit and just transmuting random stuff.
     
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