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Can Orochimaru tank Rasenshuriken and respawn with Oral Rebirth?

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  1. TrollbitoUchiha Master of Troll no Jutsu

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    Once he is hit by FRS his chakra network would be destroyed and he won't be able to use chakra and therefore no ninjutsu.

    Kakuzu was alive after getting hit by FRS and one of his heart was not destroyed but he wasn't able to defend him when Kakashi came down to finish him off.

    Orochimaru/Tsunade/Hashirama all will be defeated if they get hit, their healing techniques won't save them.
     
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    No

    FRS shreds the chakra network

    Oral rebirth and every regen tech requires chakra

    Ergo...
     
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    Orochimaru Survived after being bisected by kn4 . I'm Sure that destroys the chakra system as well.
     
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    It depends how oral rebirth is facilitated. I think techniques that "release" upon death may not require the chakra network?
     
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    If it explodes Orochimaru's done for.

    If it chops through him and keeps flying he'll regenerate.
     
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    He regenerates. It's not as lethal as a Bijudama.
     
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    Orochimaru is never really in his own body.

    So, at any point he can oral rebirth or turn into his snake form to escape whatever form he's currently taken.

    Explains how Oral Rebirth even works. His body is always fake, so a little chakra input can generate new fake parts to fix any damage.


    Like, a single chunk of Kabuto's flesh and a Cursed Mark was all the input it took for Orochimaru to grow an entirely new body. Whatever chakra he can save up or scrounge together after FRS should be enough for him to perform Oral Rebirth.
     
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  10. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    Shouldn't someone have said that A3 wouldn't be able to use his jutsu if he was alive after Naruto hit with him with FRS?
     
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  12. Mar55 The Darkness Rises

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    Why would it?

    FRS specifically shreds your chakra network with microscopic blades, it's nothing like just being cut in half.

    More to the point, Oro doesn't have the durability to survive a FRS exploding around him, or shredding him down to a stump like it did the Human Path.

    If it just cuts him in half, he'll be fine.
     
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    Hell no. He gets shredded and has his chakra use trolled as well.
     
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    Why, would they?
    How would that be relevant to the situation they were in?
     
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    If it would have crippled the Raikage if he was alive it would have made the significance of his Edo buffs more apparent. However, we are led to believe the same thing would happen if he was alive. So if someone like the Raikage can tank FRS... why not Oro?
     
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    He oral rebirthed after having his head turned to paste by Kabuto

    I'm not convinced FRS does the same level of damage per opponent, durability does matter even against FRS, look at A3. He had RCM back up before he regenned.

    Yes, Oro is surviving FRS. Anything short of sealing, chakra exhaustion or being vaporized isn't bringing him down.
     
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  18. MawDezrtarsh22 Read my name....slowly

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    Dangerous line of thinking there Munboy.

    "If X can't do it why can't Y"

    Jiraiya wankers will use it to transfer Oros feats to him
     
  19. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    They already think Gamabunta has the destructive power to rival a Bijuu. :lmao
     
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    If he gets hit by the blade,he recovers easily.
    if he gets hits by the main body, i.e microscopic wind needles, he might not be able to use oral rebirth.
    but oro is so weird.. its difficult to tell if his body system is normal lol
     
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    Why would they restate two things that they'd already established i.e. that Rasenshruiken fucks up your chakra network, and that Edo Tensei heal from almost anything quickly?

    They had already shown him not being stopped by getting chopped up by Team Temari so they didn't need to reestablish him being an Edo was a problem when they did it a few chapters before, and slow down a fight with repeated info for no reason.
     
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    But it didn't fuck up the Raikage. I know some of you saw the "psssh" effect and assumed the Raikage got damaged and that if he was alive FRS would kill him. But he immediately countered the sealing jutsu, meaning the jutsu hardly scratched him. I know there are those panels of Temari's fan dealing some damage, but Dodai said those were not decisive blows.

    Also using the Edo flakes is a bad argument in-itself as most of the time, Edos have to regenerate for the most random things like when Madara's body was cut in half after Lee kicked him. Does this mean Lee's kicks can cut bodies in half?

    Should this hold, then it means that there is a being whose chakra network will not be destroyed by FRS, A3. That itself suggests that other ninja with unusual bodies would still retain their ability to use chakra, such as Orochimaru.
     
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    Yes. That's how durability works, after all.
     
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    I'd ask you to prove his point, but that'd be me requesting you to do something that you can't.

     
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    Character A has durability > character B bypasses that > character b can do the same to other characters with similar, or lesser durability to character a.
     
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    It does.
    It's like saying a something that cuts the nervous system in a Microscopic way is more effective than cutting a person in half. A person cut in half also has his nervous system cut off.
    When orochimaru is bisected, his chakra system is also cut from its natural loop. Why would it be any different ?
     
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    Because unlike being cut in half, and having your network separated as a result, these blades specifically shred each and every node of the chakra network.

    It destroys your ability to wield chakra itself, which massive damage injuries aren't portrayed to do. There's a reason the distinction was given to Rasenshuriken machinations, as opposed the damage it does.
     
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    Look at him.

    He has deeper wounds than his "Greatest Shame"
    And they same the same shit.
    (Not suprising, look up how dame desu gets translated and how often and broadly it's used in Japanese, as an aside.)

    It's just clearly not enough damage to stop his Edo body.

    Same as Tobirama, Hashirama's clone, Minato etc all continuing on with debilitating wounds for a living person with little hindrance from them.

    You have to do enough to completely stop their movements or they just keep coming. The third is just particularly tough on top of that.


    This is all completely unfounded.

    Lee clearly kicked him in half as well. There is a swoosh where it shows the path of his leg and Madara's body is clearly cut.
    It's not like he kicked around him, but cut him and something behind him somehow.


    Edos have never Regenerated for no reason, and have come back quickly from things as devastating as Shin being completely destroyed.


    There is no reason to think microscopic damage wouldnt be ignored and healed in seconds given what we have already seen them do.
     
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    Depends on how Orochi is hit. If it cuts him in half and keeps on going then he'll be good to just put himself back together like when Naruto cut him in half. If it explodes then Orochi is dead
     
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