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Can raid suit take Sanji from "loses to vergo" level to "defeat a Calamity/Sweet Commander" level?

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  1. hehey a synonym for greatness

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    Currently he is below one if Doflamingos top executives since he was getting worked by Vergo on Punk Hazard.

    He hasn't had a serious fight since then and the toughest guys on Wano besides Yonko will be the Calamities and the Sweet Comanders (yes I'm counting Snack here).

    Is the raid suit gonna take him to that level?
     
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  2. TrolonoaZoro An artist with a Katana.

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    Sanji cant solo a commander until eos or right before eos. So after wano

    The way oda has created commanders is that theyre strict fighters and are op in one particular stat. That one usually being tankyness/endurance. Sanjis weakness.

    He will 100 percent share a calamity with his power up. And i dont even know if his attack will be the finisher. Oda made it clear hes a emotional cook first, and a fighter second.
     
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  3. Jujubatman12 Active Member

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    Sanji showed he can keep up with vetern level fighters on WCI. The SH get stronger after every island. With the raid suit Sanji is 3rd or 4th commander lebel.
     
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    Im absolutely sure he will solo a commander. There will be too many of them there

    All strong fighters (Sanji, Neko, Inu included) will fight commanders. Supernovas will fight Yonkos, Orochi and probably FMs.
     
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    I'd be terribly disappointed if he got that strong by imitating his family of douchebags rather than getting there on his own strength. It would bring his character to an all time low for me if he only defeated a Yonko Commander because he accepted help from the Vinsmokes of all people.
     
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    People are damn to hard on Sanji, Law just barely beat Vergo in Punk Hazard arc and the top three Doffy executives never held a candle to him in Dressrosa arc, Sanjis loss against Doffy doesn't mean shit either cause only Luffy from the whole aliance was able to beat that guy. Zoro would also get Smokered if he faced those opponents in same arc that Sanji did.
     
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  7. Erkan12 DB and OP Expert

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    Sanji was heavily wounded before the Vergo fight. Due to swapping bodies with Nami and Nami taking a mortal wound from Caesar.

    Despite this he didn't lose to Vergo like Smoker did.

    Anyway, Vergo was obviously stronger than any executive from Doflamingo family, Vergo's only speciality was Rokushiki + Armament Haki (even Dof and CC hyped his Armament Haki), while all other executives had DF powers and their main power was DF. Law also said Vergo was the right-hand man of Doflamingo, and the most valuable subordinate.

    Sanji's portrayal against Vergo was better than Zoro's portrayal against Carrot.

    We've seen Sanji was taking on Yonko commanders such as Daifuku and Oven with no problem, he even dodged an attack from Katakuri, and blocked Big Mom's punch with Luffy's G3.
     
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    I don't know why people like @Erkan12 try to turn this into a Sanji vs Zoro thread when it's clearly just about Sanji and his raid suit.


    With his current portrayal Sanji definitely isn't soloing a YC on his own even with the raid suit.
     
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    First he has to use it to make us see what he gains from it
     
  10. Erkan12 DB and OP Expert

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    Because the same people says Zoro will solo a YC but not Sanji. To prove they are close in power, it means Sanji too can solo a YC, but not a FM or SM.
     
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    Zoro haven't even been mentioned in this thread except by mob who put him not too far ahead of Sanji.

    So back to my question why you want to bait a Sanji vs Zoro confrontation?
     
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    Luffy came from "need help and DF advantage to take down Cracker" to "beats Katakuri" during 1 fight. Do you really think that Sanji would lose to Vergo if their fight wasn't interrupted? SHP are way stronger than they seem to be in 1vs1.
     
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    Just think about Broly with a raid suit <3
     
  14. Gledania Yeah but no.

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    :bookerskully
     
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    I used him as an example. Zoro and Sanji can't be separated, Zoro is being jealous of Sanji when Luffy says Sanji is 1000 men strong, or Sanji is being happy when he sees his bounty is higher than Zoro's bounty, that's how it is. Zoro and Sanji will always be compared.
     
  16. Gledania Yeah but no.

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    Sanji is definitly going to face a commander.
    Not a calamity , but a commander yeah. a supernova or one of their crew. (a killer like).
     
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    I don't know. I was really hoping Sanji would be impressive at some point during WCI, but it just...never happened. He'll probably beat one of Kaidou's commanders, but it's definitely not going to be a Calamity.

    I don't like the idea of him having to use a Raid Suit.
     
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    Let's see what the raid suits does for him first. Don't even know the buffs they all seem unique to each of em and sanji didn't have his fire till way later. I want the suit to maybe just awaken his dormant abilities I don't want him to have to rely on it really unless he has a way to make it his own truly
     
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    This entire thread is a bait, so don't act all sanctified.
     
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    How is one shotting someone just barely beating them?
     
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    Actually gas soon has Law got his heart back. He fodderized Vergo
     
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    Zoro is stronger tho. Zoro is going to beat a 1st Commander level guy, while Sanji will beat yc3 or 4. The raid suit puts him above vetern level to low commander level.
     
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    The raid suit greatly improved ones abilties bro. Sanji will be hosting people with his raid suit.
     
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    trash in a trash suit :glue
     
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    So thread is not about Zoro vs Sanji but you just can't just seperate your hate for 1 of them to the point of baiting a certain fanbase again.

    How comes? Just because you don't like it it's bait now? You have no opinion on the thread and just came out when Zoro been mentioned together with Sanji so thanks for confirming your a troll that baits other users, infact you insult the OP to justify your hate for a certain character that gets attacked by another troll.
     
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  27. Soca The Mud and the Oil Super Moderator

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    Pretty much. The title alone set the tone for it so closing for baity bait thread.
     
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