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Cell Vs Bojack Vs Broly

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome' started by accountmaker, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. accountmaker

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    MISTER Perfect Cell.
    I do remember Goku telling Gohan that while Broly was strong he "didn't really know how to fight" and that cell was "the toughest fight to come". That was in the Dub IIRC
     
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    Re-read my post and how your reply here has nothing to do with what I said.
     
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    I sense some hostility
     
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    Stop instigating no one is being hostile to anyone.
     
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    There isn't any hostility here.
     
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    Both Broly and Bojack were said to be Galaxy busters/destroyers depending on your interpretation while canon Cell is only a solar system buster going by his statement. I'm unsure what anime Cell has unless we are assuming anime Cell is in the same timeline as the movies, in which case Bojack should be above Cell while Broly wins once he hits movie 10 considering it took ssj Gohan, ssj Goku, and ssj Goten going all out to break thru Brolys orb attack while Trunks used PIS ki blasts to impede Broly amping it.
     
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    Goku instant transmissioned to that very same Galaxy that was supposedly destroyed, and the planets and such were in-tact, with the cities being destroyed and massacred.
     
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    For Real?
     
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    The OP said Perfect Cell not Super Perfect Cell.

    When it comes trying to place non canon characters within the canonicity of the series in order to scale them as well as it only just makes logical sense that the Z fighters fight a stronger foe than the last then both Perfect Cell and Bojack should be above Movie 8 Broly.

    Perfect Cell takes this victory at the very least as a potentiality because even if a Full Powered Bojack maybe stronger, Cell has Saiyan cells that will make him stronger through Zenki boosts after he regenerates from near death so Perfect Cell could eventually become Super Perfect Cell.
     
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    What is this a cross over episode?
     
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    Broly were never brought up in the anime
     
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    This was in the beginning of the movie. iirc
     
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    Animation smartass
     
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    Bio Broly says hi. Pretty sure Janemba was also stronger than Hirudegarn.
     
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    Or you can Google it. DBZ is huge, you would think that a ton of people saw the episode where Goku said that and would post online about it. Broly was never mentioned in the anime
     
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    What the hell are you on about?
     
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    You said Goku told Gohan Cell was the strongest they faced in the dub. @Gordo solos assumes you meant anime since you said dub.
     
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    I didn't say cell was the strongest they faced, I said (paraphrasing) that they said Cell would be stronger than Broly because "Broly didn't really know how to fight". In canon, the broly film happened before the cell games. "anime" is the catch all term for animation, which includes both the dbz tv series and movie series.
     
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    No and no.

    Also the comment from one of the producers about that is inconsistent: Bio-Broly is definitively weaker than Movie 8 or Movie 10 Broly. Janemba shits on Hirdugren and no one in their right mind is going to claim that Movie 13's Super Saiyan 3 Goku is stronger than Movie 12's Super Saiyan Gogeta. Further more, its even more nutty to think that Bio-Broly who got taken out by Krillen, Goten, and Trunks is remotely comparable much less stronger then Gohan, Future Trunks, Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, or Broly in his past two movies.

    Gohan's comment directly compares Bojack to Cell with all logic heavily indicating he was being aligned with Perfect Cell, not Super Perfect Cell otherwise he wouldn't have been so easily downed with a handful of punches and a casual final Kamehame Ha. The anime continuity gets the benefit of scaling from the Movie continuity in Toei "canon".

    And anyway we don't know if Bojack (transformed/full power/whatever) is stronger then Perfect Cell, we know he's just strong enough that he's compared or reminded of Cell by Gohan. So again:

    Movie 8 Broly < Perfect Cell < Movie 9/suppressed Bojack < Movie 9/Full power Bojack < Super Perfect Cell < Movie 10 Broly
     
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    ^ (use bro) are you dense?

    You said this even though it was never stated. Goku never said that Broly didn’t know how to fight
     
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    He said it in the movie genius.
     
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    The Bio Broly thing…. yeah…. totally forgot about that movie and as for Janemba being superior to Hirudegarn, I don’t exactly what makes that necessarily true. Is it because Janemba was beaten by a fused being whereas Hirudegarn wasn’t? If so, then that disregards the random plot device that Hirudegarn gets weaker (apparently quickly and significantly) when he experiences intense emotions. The same evolved Hirudegarn that punched SSJ3 Gotenks out of his fusion in one hit and beat Ultimate Gohan rather easily.
     
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    Both of whom are vastly inferior to SSJ Gogeta. And Janemba also had serious space time fuckery/reality warping powers
     
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    Maybe Cell and Bojack are comparable in PL, but Cell has more intangibles going for him. 1v1 Bojack might be able stop Cell from trying any bullshit with blowing up the planet, but Broly isn't going to have any self-control to avoid blowing up the planet and Cell is fine with this outcome of Broly and Bojack dying in space.

    Broly might be capable of higher max DC than Cell, but we don't know any specifics of what Broly needs to do to get that level of power. For all we know, he had to charge up for a long time, and we've already seen that, in practice, Cell is superior to M8 Broly
     
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    Broly clearly doesnt have an issue in space, he could fly from planet Vegeta to another world as a baby with one of his barriers up.
     
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    Toei has SSJ3 Goku as stronger than Ultimate Gohan. See for yourself what Janemba did to the former. Along with Janemba's wonky mechanics disrupting the universe (?).
     
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    Yeah it's inconsistent as FUCK. I think the point is that Goku exploited Hiru's weakness while everyone else just tried hitting him
     
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    Forgot about that.
     
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    Not in Movie 8 he didn’t. Point it out to me, since you seem so sure
     
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