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Common OBD Terminology and Phrases

Discussion in 'Meta-Battledome' started by Wobbly, Sep 4, 2007.

  1. Wobbly Active Member Advisor

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    These are all terms that those new to the OBD, or more specifically, character debate forums in general, might be confused about when they see these thrown around in pretty much every thread.

    Fear not! You don't have to look newbish(read: like fresh meat) by asking the sometimes embarrassing "What does CIS/DEM/____ mean?"

    Common terms:

    character induced stupidity (CIS): Basically, it's when even though a character can use the full extent of their power, or take advantages of an opponents mistakes, they instead either consciously choose to squander the opportunity, or for reasons unknown to readers, just don't go all out.

    For OBD purposes, threads where "CIS = on" indicate that even though the characters involved might be able to use their full abilities, they're still bound by what their tendencies are in battle.

    (ex. Ikkaku foregoing the use of his own defense or working around another's.)

    plot induced stupidity (PIS): This is also known as plot no jutsu(PNJ).

    This is when a character loses a fight against another for reasons that can only be described as "for plot." Case in point: an antagonist is bigger, stronger, faster, more skilled, and has better and more useful techniques than a protagonist opponent, but for reasons that oftentimes almost defy logic... somehow lose anyway.

    For OBD purposes, PIS is pretty much always off, or else main protagonists would always have the edge over antagonists in battles.

    (ex. almost every series)

    jobbing: This is basically the Western comic fan term for a type of PIS.

    Jobbing is losing to someone to make them look powerful -- to hype them. (info provided by Spy_Smasher (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10366239&postcount=7))

    Jobbing is when a character/entity loses a battle/confrontation against a much weaker character/entity, due to reasons ranging from the unlikely to the sheer ridiculous. Characters/entities who frequently job are known as 'jobbers'. A character/entity who wins numerous battles/confrontations against characters/entities that he/she/it should not really win possesses what fans label as 'jobber aura'. (info provided by Comic Book Guy (http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=36946))

    The term "jobbing" comes from Professional Wrestling, where it came a person who was supposed to lose said to "do their job", since all the results are scripted. Eventually, they'd just say that they were supposed to "job" tonight, and now we apply it to things like Comics and Manga, where people lose due to 'plot restrictions'. (info provided by Guy Gardener (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=9968315&postcount=6))

    (ex. Silver Surfer jobbed against Black Panther)

    jobber aura: A character who wins numerous battles or confrontations against other characters that they should not really win possesses what fans label as 'jobber aura'. (info provided by Comic Book Guy (http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=36946))

    (ex. Wolverine, Black Panther, Batman, Captain America)

    deus ex machina (DEM): This isn't as common as most of the others, but it pops up from time to time.

    This is when an unexpected character, device, or event gets brought into a work of fiction to resolve a situation.

    (ex. most powerups, like Ishida's against Mayuri)

    canon: These are bodies of works that are considered to be "genuine" or "official" within a certain fictional universe.

    For OBD purposes, this would mean any form(s) of a series that the original author or creator had the largest part, and near full autonomy, in creating.

    (ex. most manga came before their anime counterparts, and are considered canon by most)

    retroactive continuity (retcon): This is purposefully changing previously established facts and truths about a work of fiction. It mostly applies to Western comics, but there are exceptions(read: post-skip Sharingan).

    For OBD purposes, retcons affect which versions of characters might be used, since certain versions of characters may have vastly different abilities than the others.

    (ex. pre- and post-Crisis Superman, although arguable)

    curbstomp: Also known as rape, and rapestomp.

    To my knowledge, these are OBD specific terms.

    It's an adjective to describe battles created by members where one character's abilities and strengths far exceed another's to the point where the other character simply has no chance to win.

    (ex. SSJ3 Goku vs. pre-skip Naruto)

    babyshake: Used before even my time here. It was described as being the highest level of pwned one can attain in the OBD.

    (possible ex. Dr. Strange vs. Claymoreverse)

    pwn: Term originally came into use because of the Half Life: Counterstrike games.

    When one person managed to perform a clean kill, it was said that the other player was "owned," but in the heat of a game, and with the close placement of the "p" button to the "o," many ended up saying "pwned" in the game's chat function by accident.

    It is mistakenly misspelled on purpose all across the internet now.

    The term "pwn" is under contention. The original iteration is either in counterstrike, or more likely a Warcraft 2 map that was added in. Losing said map produced the maxim, "you got pwned". (info provided by Pipboy (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10369070&postcount=21))

    For OBD purposes, this is when a character... basically gets cleanly hit in almost any fashion. It can also apply to one OBD member making another look stupid using logical reasoning or from posting scans that undoubtedly disprove their words.

    (ex. pick a series, and you will find someone getting pwned)

    OP: This can be used interchangeably with either "One Piece" manga or the "opening/original poster" of a thread, depending on the context.

    fallacy: This is a component of an argument that is demonstrably flawed in it's logic, thus rendering an entire argument invalid.

    See Endless Mike's thread (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=161731) for a more in-depth analysis with examples.

    hyperbole: Fancy word for "exaggeration," used by OBDers to make themselves sound more intelligent.

    (ex. "Tsunade is like a 'god of war'")

    GAR: A term used towards male characters and individuals who are so overwhelmingly manly that your own masculinity is absolutely *buried*, leaving you naught but a whimpering, swooning girl-child before them.

    The best possible definition of this term can be found here. (http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=275622)

    (ex. Gutts, Gara, Kenshirou)

    faster than light (FTL): This is pretty much self explanatory.

    The acronym form of this term is very often used throughout the OBD to describe characters who's speed can exceed 299,792,458 meters per second, or 186,282.392 miles per second.

    (ex. Dark Schneider and The Shrike, among others)

    speedblitz: This is the word used to describe an action that is likely to occur when one character is significantly faster than the other.

    For OBD purposes, this is likely the end of a battle thread almost before it even starts, since if the combatants involved are comparable in strength and durability, yet their potential speeds are vastly different, it ends up leading to a one-sided battle.

    (ex. The Flash vs. nearly anyone)

    "gg _____": The "gg" stands for "good game" and the "_____" is a blank for any character mentioned after the gg.

    This is actually misleading, since it's use is actually to indicate who an OBD member believes would lose a fight.

    (ex. gg Itachi = "I believe Itachi will lose")

    battle field removal (BFR): Also known as "by fucking ringout".

    It's when a character is able to win a match or a fight by removing their opponent from the battlefield. This could be anything that constitutes as the ring, and being unable to return. (info provided by Id (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10372884&postcount=26))

    (ex. causing a character to be shot into space, taken to another dimension, etc...)

    continuity: Continuity refers to diegetic world of fiction.

    Continuity is essentially cause and effect. Comic books are like a soap opera most of the time. Each issue will follow roughly from the last one. Over time a person can make enemies, fall in love, etc. If someone is married and in love one issue then the next issue they should still be married and in love. Over time and the course of many issues their love might start to fade and they could get a divorce. However you wouldn?t expect that in one issue a character is happily married and the next he?s divorced for no reason. Comic Books are continuous and so follow what?s happened before, also known as their continuity.

    Some comic books and issues are out of continuity. An example of this is the graphic novel Superman: Red Son I mentioned earlier. It shows what would have happened if Superman landed in Russia. However Superman actually landed in Kansas, and the whole Red Son story has no effect on the main Superman story that is ongoing in the comics. Television series, movies and videogames are almost without exception out of continuity. (info provided by Comic Book Guy (http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=36946))

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    Last edited: Sep 5, 2007
  2. Wobbly Active Member Advisor

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    non-canon: Non-canon is a term that is used to identify the events, actions, and/or characters of one or more stories that are not in continuity within a fictional universe. (info provided by Comic Book Guy (http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=36946))

    filler: Similar to non-canon, filler is a term that is used to identify the events, actions, and/or characters that are not in continuity within a fictional universe. Whereas non-canon is the broader of the two terms, filler is more specific; the term is used with regards to Japanese anime and/or manga. (info provided by Comic Book Guy (http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=36946))

    (ex. Bikouchuu arc of Naruto anime)

    prep time: Short for preparation time, prep-time is where a character is granted time to prepare prior to the battle/conflict at hand.
    Note that prep time is dependent on the resources that the character is allowed to access (and possess in battle, if applicable) as specified by the vs. thread creator. (info provided by Comic Book Guy (http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=36946))

    bloodlust: Bloodlust is a state of being where a character utilizes their abilities, capabilities, and/or powers to their maximum extent in the battle. Inhibitions and/or self-imposed limits and/or restraints such as morals or beliefs are not in effect.

    Note that bloodlust does not mean berserker rage, where the character becomes solely driven by animalistic, feral rage and a single-minded drive to kill. (info provided by Comic Book Guy (http://forums.narutofan.com/member.php?u=36946))

    trope: In story-telling, a trope is a conceptual figure of speech, a storytelling shorthand for some sort of concept that the audience will recognize and understand instantly.

    Above all, a trope is a convention. It can be a plot trick, a setup, a narrative structure, a character type, a linguistic idiom. It's like porn; you know it when you see it. (info provided by Pintsize (http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=10373255&postcount=26))

    omnipotence: This is a property of a character that can only be described of as absolute power. Seemingly nothing is above the realm of possibility for characters that exhibit this trait.

    Note that there is a paradox concerning this trait, since in order to be omnipotent, nothing should be above your realm of power. For example, theoretically, an omnipotent being should be able to create a rock that is too heavy for them to pick up, but in doing so, they have just made something that is above their realm of power.

    This is largely ignored in the OBD, however.

    (ex. Kami Tenchi)

    IIRC: The lazy way to say "if I recall correctly".

    bullet timer: This can be described as a character that has reflexes fast enough to dodge supersonic attacks.

    (ex. Kirin)

    feat: In the context of the OBD, it's an action or event that displays a character's abilities which may be useful in combat.

    (ex. Rock Lee moving faster than the eye can see after removing his weights)

    area of effect(AoE/AOE): This is an attack or ability that can affect an entire area, possibly affecting more that just a single target, and instead multiple targets and/or surroundings.

    (ex. all of Cross' attacks)
     
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  3. Rice Ball Active Member

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    This forum doesn't frown on people using offensive language, but i really don't know why people use rape in the OBD. Prehaps they don't understand what it means.
     
  4. Wobbly Active Member Advisor

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    Damn, you just made me feel guilty about the "rape" definition...

    Well anyway, I updated "curbstomp" and added "babyshake"(also morally ambiguous) and "pwn"...
     
  5. Spy_Smasher Active Member Advisor

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    Base Internet >> Base Real Life in offensiveness. That's just the rule. I imagine it has to do with the anonymity.

    To be precise, Jobbing is not really PIS, though you might think of it as a type of PIS. Basically, Jobbing is losing to someone to make them look powerful -- to hype them. Single instances of Jobbing are hard or impossibleto identify. However, Jobbers, wrestlers who make a career out of Jobbing, are easy to identify. Frankly, characters who are jobbers are pretty rare. Rock Lee springs to mind. Jobbing is not CIS.

    A Jobber Aura is therefore the ability to get other characters to Job to you. Captain America is the most-used example but Wolverine, Black Panther and the goddamn Batman are all good examples of characters with jobber auras.
     
  6. Wobbly Active Member Advisor

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    Thanks for the clarification.

    I'll see how I can make the necessary changes to the OP....

    edit: lol, I found another definition.
     
  7. Banhammer Banhammer Science

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    What about GAR, and
    :harlita COSMIC :harlita EMBARRASSEMENT!
    ?
     
  8. Spy_Smasher Active Member Advisor

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    Heh. I'm not surprised. The concept is kind of subtle when taken out of it's wrestling context. After all, it's so easy for comic writers to play with the staus quo of their characters. Consistency is not exactly the hallmark of comics, or manga for that matter.

    For my money, the definition you have is sufficient to convey the basic idea.

    EDIT:

    "Speedblitz" might need a definition, though it's probably self explanatory. You might think about "logical fallacy" and "hyperbole." People could always use a dictionary, but you might want to include them. I've also started to see "trope" around here (and am guilty of using it myself, because I like to feel superior :)). I've seen gg here a few times, but very rarely, and always sarcastically.
     
  9. Wobbly Active Member Advisor

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    GAR is a good one.

    I've never actually seen anyone use cosmic embarrassment, though.

    Gah, I already changed it to what you said. :arg

    I was actually talking about "OP" when I said that...
     
  10. Spy_Smasher Active Member Advisor

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    You're definition is good. Heh. I made some additional suggestions in an edit above.
     
  11. Banhammer Banhammer Science

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    No :(.... cosmic embarrassment is my trademark upgrade from HUMILIATION! It qill be big though!
     
  12. Ulfgar Higher Dimensional Entity

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    Someone sticky this so it can be informative and not lost in the swamp of threads.
     
  13. Wobbly Active Member Advisor

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    I added GAR, fallacy, and hyperbole.

    I've never actually seen trope used anywhere, IRL or in the OBD, though.

    @Ulfgar: Glad you approve.
     
  14. Aldric Active Member

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    How about FTL? I actually had no idea what it meant the first time I browsed the forum.
     
  15. Banhammer Banhammer Science

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    "sp33dbl1tz!!11!" should be a cosmic joke, not an obd terminology
     
  16. Chocochip COOKIE

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    so if a turtle and a jet that could fight and talk fought, who would win? The turtle would be speedblitz even before he got to move. This is what we are talking about. It is the same situation for alot of battles but you just don't get it.
     
  17. Banhammer Banhammer Science

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    ^No, what we are talkin about is an f7 vs f7 with better jet fuel, obliterating the opents with a missilie before the first f7 has time to think about pressing a button
     
  18. Parallax Treachery Moderator

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    Goddamn you deliver another great thread that demands a sticky. Great job.
     
  19. Pipboy Now With 96% More Pip

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    Actually the term pwn is under contention. The misspelling is correct however the original iteration is either in counterstrike, or more likely a Warcraft 2 map that was added in. Losing said map produced the maxim, "you got pwned".
     
  20. Banhammer Banhammer Science

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    isn't pwned an internet version of "owned" only misspelled because the "p" is right next to the "o"?
     
  21. Heart Of The Cards New Member

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    That's the common and most accepted origin of the word. It's kind of like GAR, in that way.
     
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  23. Wobbly Active Member Advisor

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    Added.

    Glad you approve.

    This I didn't know.

    I'll add it.

    Yeah... that's what I mentioned in it's definition. :S

    You can find these at almost any internet terminology site.

    I'm doing OBD specific terms.

    But, you did remind me about "gg ____"...
     
  24. Id Τοξότης Moderator

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    BFR (Battle Field Removal) I like to call it By Fucking Ringout:mad
    Its when a character win a match or a fight by removing him from the battlefield.
    Anything that constitutes as the ring, and being unable to return (could be, another realm, dimension, or reality etc..)


    I request PNJ.

    Edit - It took you long enough to make this thread. I still remember our conversation, ware I suggested you added it on to an existing thread.
     
  25. Wobbly Active Member Advisor

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    I completely forgot! :arg

    Well... I'm making up for it now! :mad

    I'll add BFR, but PNJ is the first one I put in. :S
     
  26. Pintsize Super Slueth

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    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.Trope

    This site is awesome, FYI
     
  27. Wobbly Active Member Advisor

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    Oh okay.

    Hmm... I'd add it, but I've never actually seen it being used. :S

    I guess I'll whip up a definition when I get home.

    Oh, and I guess this thread isn't worthy enough for a sticky. :(
     
  28. Id Τοξότης Moderator

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    At least add a link to one of the threads that are stickyed.
     
  29. Darklyre ponies!

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    You should add jplaya as a term, considering how often he's used as response to rapestomp threads.
     
  30. Wobbly Active Member Advisor

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    Actually, adding it to OBD assumptions still wouldn't bring attention to this thread.

    Why would any newbie look into OBD assumptions when they're looking to find out terminology?

    @Darklyre: What threads are these? :S
     

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