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Correct translation: Hyou says he was a great swordsman long ago

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by T.D.A, Apr 13, 2019 at 9:39 AM.

  1. MasterBeast Out Of My Mind.

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    Funny how the barrier/ Wall of Haki has only been done with an open palm, Luffy being a genius is gonna up grade it to doing it with a fist but I ain’t seen no one pull it off with a sword. :hmpf
     
  2. TheOmega Real Nigga

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    Kickboxers are not classified as Boxers even though they box and throw punches.

    Haki Swordsmen are not classified as regular Swordsmen even though they swing swords.

    A Hybrid is a different class from a Purist.

    Mihawk is the WSS at using Swordsmanship, doesn't mean he's stronger than anybody who uses a sword or blade as a part of their skillset.

    Big Mom has a sword.. STILL STRONGER THAN Mihawk..

    Whitebeard has a naginata.. STILL STRONGER THAN Mihawk..

    You can be the fastest runner in the world.. doesn't mean that you're gonna be the fastest triathlete in the world..

    Mayweather is the "best boxer" notice how everytime he fights a fighter of another discipline, he has to limit their skillset and make them fight under "boxing" and he doesn't go into their category to fight them..

    Mihawk is best at the isolated category of Swordsmanship, but if you consider an entire skillset, Shanks and several others are superior to him. This is a SIMPLE idea to grasp.


     
  3. Sakazuki-Singh The Fist

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    Here we go with that shit again :giogio
     
  4. Flame Cold ass Ice

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    How do threads become Shanks vs Mihawk threads is beyond me :ramsaythunk
     
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  5. Vengeance Goldenhand the Just

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    @TheOmega
    You are talking about a simple idea to grasp while neglecting the simplest facts. To keep it short, the whole point is:
    Mihawk's title is "Sekai Saikyō no Kenshi". Translation: Strongest Swordsman/man who fights with a sword.
    He's stronger than any other swordsman/man who uses a sword in fights.
    Shanks, Rayleigh and Hyou are swordsmen because they fight with swords. End of the story.
    Spoiler: In case of translation issues
    Clarifications by Stephen Paul, the VIZ translator


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    Leaving it at that.
     
  6. T.D.A Well-Known Member

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    What evidence is there to suggest Shanks is a hybrid fighter? Both Big Mum and WB have confirmed devil fruit powers so you could argue the case for them but Shanks?
     
  7. MasterBeast Out Of My Mind.

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    It’s craaazzy bruh.
    Considering Shanks is actually stronger then Mihawk. :ramsaythunk
     
  8. Gledania Yeah but no

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    Every thread in OL is a Mihawk/Shanks thread in disguise.
     
  9. MasterBeast Out Of My Mind.

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    Once you pick a side, you will see through the disguise.
     
  10. T.D.A Well-Known Member

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    FYI here is the official English translation, Hyou says he was known as 'the Mighty Blade' i.e a great swordsman:

     
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  11. Neo Arcadia ズッコケジャック

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    Lol, who thinks Jedi aren't samurai to begin with? Space samurai, anyway. The Sith too. Have you seen Vader's helmet?
    Darth Bane's design for the Clone Wars cartoon, too.

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    Shanks is a Sith Lord, fyi. You know that black lightning that happens when CoC users clash? In due time he will deliberately unleash it to fry foes. It's how Kid got those scars alongside a missing arm.
     
  12. Dunno Well-Known Member

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    Hyou was a Great Swordsman and he was a Haki Swordsman. Shanks is a Great Swordsman and he is a Haki Swordsman. Mihawk is called the Greatest Swordsman and he is a Haki Swordsman. Shanks is a Jedi Master and Mihawk is the greatest Jedi Master.
     
  13. T.D.A Well-Known Member

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    Guys check out the new thread I've made about how Hyou calls himself the same swordsman type as Zoro and Ryuuma (Goken):
     
  14. Ye Xiu Admanistrator

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    stop pretending that you actually understand Japanese :lbj
     
  15. TheOmega Real Nigga

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    I'm just gonna sit here at my "Shanks & Rayleigh Are Not Mere Swordsmen, They're Haki Specialists Who Use Swords" & "Mihawk's Title Applies To Swordsmen Who Rely On Solely On Swordsmanship" desk and stand by my points cuz I know Oda's gonna prove me 100% correct
     
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  16. MasterBeast Out Of My Mind.

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    WB was WSM when Roger was around. Still had it while Garp was around.

    Mihawk is WSS, Even though Shanks is around.

    Both WB and Mihawk I’m guessing got their titles before they ran into their gen of the PK and We’re allowed to keep it.
     
  17. T.D.A Well-Known Member

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    Mihawk and Shanks have been rivals since their younger days iirc? Either way I think they are likely evenly matched.
     
  18. TheOmega Real Nigga

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    I feel like as soon as Shanks gave up his arm he started getting in his Haki bag for real in order to compensate for the loss. He ain't a swordsman no more he's something else altogether and that's why Mihawk has no interest in dueling him anymore
     
  19. Sakazuki-Singh The Fist

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    Or maybe because Shanks lost his arm and Mihawk isn't interested in fighting a cripple ? (which is a fact and not a feeling)
     
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  20. TheOmega Real Nigga

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    Looks like Shanks had either won their last match or they had a tie tho cuz it doesn't seem like Mihawk was the victor of their competition
     
  21. MasterBeast Out Of My Mind.

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    But he rather fight a half blind boy?
    @T.D.A
    Probably... from paradise till one elevated to Yonko the other a shichibukai.
     
  22. Sakazuki-Singh The Fist

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    Losing an eye isn't an handicap in OP world, losing his dominant arm is
     
  23. TheOmega Real Nigga

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    Mihawk himself says PK is a greater Ambition than WSS...

    Shanks is stated to be the closest man to PK...

    Mihawk states Luffy has the "strongest ability on the seas" which is the ability to recruit allies(which is a passive ability of CoC)

    Who's known for great CoC? Shanks...

    Shichibukai are considered Gov't dogs..
    Yonko are considered mini Pirate Kings beyond the authority and jurisdiction of the WG..

    & yet people want to pretend that Shanks is WEAKER than Mihawk lmaoo it's just crazy bro
     
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  24. MasterBeast Out Of My Mind.

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    It’s not a handicap because Zoro is so good at KH right :lmao
     
  25. Dunno Well-Known Member

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    PK > WSS
    Mihawk = WSS
    Shanks << PK
    Mihawk > Shanks

    If Shanks was the PK, your argument would be valid, but he isn't.

    The ability to recruit allies is obviously great for increasing your power and influence, but it's equally obviously useless in a 1v1 fight. Shanks + crew > Mihawk + crew. Thus, Shanks has more power than Mihawk, and thus his ability to attract allies is more powerful than Mihawk's ability to swing a sword, force choke and shoot haki beams with his eyes. We are talking about individual strength though.
     
  26. Sayonara Invincible

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    Stated by who?

    I dont really agree or disagree with your post in general but would add Shanks being Luffy (main protagonists) benchmark is point you should probably also include.
     
  27. Astro Impel Down Legend Retired Staff

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    Its crazy how many great pirates have swordman backgrounds

    Roger
    Rayleigh
    Shiki
    Saka
    Kuzan
    Borsalino
    Shanks
    Mihawk
    Mum
    King
    Queen*
    Vista
    Smoothie
    Cracker
    Ryuuma
    Hyou
    Law
    Hawkins
    Drake
    Zoro
    Sanji

    even WB and Kid blades on them. Wouldnt suprise me if young Kaido had one.
     
  28. Shiba D. Inu I want to be the very best like no one ever was

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    As an OL discussion grows longer, the probability of Shanks vs Mihawk approaches 1

    :DankPepe







    also:



    :heckk
     
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  29. Gledania Yeah but no

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    ?????
     
  30. Former OBD Lurker. Well-Known Member

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    Don't make Luffy use his Bankai.:samuraicat
     
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