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Countering Amaterasu: What are the ways

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Shazam, Apr 16, 2019 at 7:51 PM.

  1. Shazam ⚡⚡⚡

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    Discuss two different knowledge stipulations.

    Full intel on Amaterasu

    No intel on Amaterasu

    What are some methods certain characters would have to use to counter Amaterasu

    I.E Orochimaru - Oral Rebirth
     
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  2. Crimson Flam3s Rampage Sage

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    Take your clothes off and fold them away neatly GG.
     
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  3. Android Keep it simple

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    Extract the burning part if you can.

    Hiraishin or Kamui as shown in canon.

    Chakra cloak (V1 Biju shroud for example).

    Gaaras sand skin.

    Dodge it if ur fast enough.

    Absorb it.

    Shines Tensei.

    Izanagi.

    Basically getting rid of the burning part or not letting the fire hit your skin directly.
     
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  4. Grinningfox Well-Known Member

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    This
     
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  5. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    that's a long list, including but not limited to

    1- Oral rebirth: like Sasuke did against itachi
    2- Izanagi: like Danzu did against Sasuke
    3- Sand: like Gaara did against Sasuke
    4- push it away: like Nagato's ST against itachi
    5- Absorb it: like Kaguya to Sasuke's amaterasu
    6- Chakra cloak: like Naruto to Sasuke's Amaterasu
    7- Kamui: like how Obito survived itachi's trap.
    8- Remove the burned part: like how the Juubi did
    9- Seal it: as Jiraiya did
    10-Shunshin: like how the Raikage did
    11- Gedu-Dama: like how JJ Obito stopped it.
    12- FTG: As Minato did
    13- Black rods: as Asspulldara did through Obito
    14- Rasengan: as Naruto did with Sasuke's Amaterasu-Chidori
    15- Substitution: As B did.

    and the list goes on and on.... :catshrug
     
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  6. WorldsStrongest Genius, Billionaire, Playboy, Philanthropist

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    Be insanely fast. As in V2 A4 fast.

    Have a method that literally allows you to regrow your entire body

    Absorb it

    Amputate it

    Have it touch something that isn’t directly connected to you and have a way of removing anything it touched without actually touching it within seconds

    High level S/T

    Izanagi

    Deva path
     
  7. ShinAkuma Fanboy Destroyer

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    Yeah....I'm gonna have to say it.....

    Samurai armor.
     
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  8. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    Some characters, such as Jiraiya and Tsunade, will never be able to directly counter Amaterasu. That's why the jutsu is so famous, not many abilities can directly do anything about it. Some counters, however, have steep costs, whilst others do not.

    Ones that come to mind are actually on Hussains lists, plus some additions and omissions:

    Orochimaru's Oral Rebirth: Sasuke demonstrated this, but it took a lot of his chakra. Though, I suspect Oro has enough reserves not to worry about this.

    Izanagi: Danzo did this but Izanagi needs to be activated prior to being hit.

    Sand: as Gaara did, I imagine this applies to gold dust and iron sand too. But, that involves blocking LOS and the user will need to be able to see/feel Amaterasu coming. Gaara blocked Kagutsuchi, but you're asking about Amaterasu, not Kagutsuchi.

    Rinnegan: Shinra Tensei (duh), and Preta Path like Madara and Kaguya showed

    A chakra cloak which is separate from the user's body like Naruto's or other V1/2 Jinchuriki.

    Kamui: the warping variant, or Kakashi's variant.

    The burning part could be expunged with abilities such as how the Juubi did it, but only for characters who can remove a large chunk of flesh such as Juugo. Arguably Asura Path powers can do this.
    Kimimaro couldn't do this, and Jiraiya cannot do it by growing his hair.

    Special Shunshin like A4's and Naruto's. Minato and others won't be Shunshining away from it.

    Gedodama.

    FTG: could counter it, but depending on how much the user focused and how the FTG user reacts, there could still be damage.

    Outer Path stakes can only work if they're used after foreseeing Amaterasu, otherwise they're good counters to Kagutsuchi like Gaara's sand.

    Bee's substitution is half and half, Bee didn't do it in battle, but Bee could chop part of him in time.

    Konan's paper angel, provided she stays in her "logia" form.

    Beyond this, other characters will need to take heavy hits to counter such as Kakuzu losing hearts.

    Omissions:
    - Sealing like Jiraiya did: not practical in battle.
    - Substitution: it isn't general to all substitutions as Hussain implies.
    - Rasengan: countering Kagutsuchi =/= countering Amaterasu

    @Hussain the list does not go on especially when some of your points were overreaching.
     
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  9. Onda Vital Well-Known Member

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    Those Samurai armor are little difficult to take off by yourself if you are burning.

    Madara's armor is much easier to drop, you only need to cut those two strings. :catshades
     
  10. Ishmael Memories never fade, you shall understand my pain.

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    My boy armor was custom made so that he could slang dick on those konoha women easier :hurr
     
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  11. The Death & The Strawberry Serene Grace

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    FTG, sensing, bjuii shrouds, oral rebirth, kamui, pabsorbing, ST are the first that come to my mind

    Bonus: Take your clothes off, use chakra stakes or have fodder samurai armour
     
  12. Onda Vital Well-Known Member

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    But if that was really the case, who go for infinite tsukuyomi then?:hmm
     
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    That's why Madara is a beast and samurai's are bums.

    Next

    Level

    Armor
     
  14. AJBeckyBlissRollins Well-Known Member

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    Sealing jutsu or ST jutsu are the best methods Imo, Substitution jutsu or just speedsters who can react and avoid it.
     
  15. MaruUchiha The Fourth Six Paths

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    Since nobody named it yet Rotation also negs Amaterasu
     
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  16. SakuraLover16 Sakura + Sasuke = Sarada

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    Removing the affected body part, if it is touching clothes remove those cloaking
     
  17. wooly Eullerex BTW, Izanagi is a ninjutsu; chidori is a nin-taijutsu

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    1. plot nerf
    2. moku'ton, sand style, paper style
    3. jyuuken
    4. preta path, deva path
     
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    Depends on where/how it hits her.

    We saw the Fourth Raikage survive by having his arm amputated. Tsunade could do the same, then regenerate her arm as she stated that Creation Rebirth can regrow limbs and organs.

    Despite how gruesome it sounds, there's no reason removing the affected layers of skin with a Chakra Scalpel shouldn't rid her of the flames. Then, she regenerates with Creation Rebirth.

    In most situations, I don't think she would be able to react in time, but if she were due to the distance it's used, she could potentially limit the amount of flames that stick to her by batting away the fire with chakra to her arms. Then she uses one of the above mentioned ways to get rid of the lingering fire. She did this to smack away Madara's Fire Release, and in the Sakura Gaiden Sakura used chakra to reinforce her body for durability.

    Strength of a Hundred - Creation Rebirth would prevent the flames from actually killing her, potentially letting her find a way to deal with them if given the space to do so.

    She's not particularly well-equipped to counter it, but she's not necessarily helpless in all scenarios.
     
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  19. Azula .

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    . Amaterasu is just stronger fire.

    Why so bias?
     
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  20. Android Keep it simple

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    :psyduck
     
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    When Amaterasu was used on him, Raikage actually survived it by dodging it. We see that the actual use of Amaterasu was gonna hit his torso, the scenario is unlikely to be Tsunade pinching an Amaterasu-clad Susano'o.
    Look at Amaterasu vs toad stomach, Danzo, Full Hachibi; Tsunade most likely burns from a focused Amaterasu.
    1. Amaterasu spawns on the target as per DB and manga, so unlike an average Katon it can't be batted away (Enton is different).
    2. The Katon Tsunade deflected isn't known as the pinnacle of fire release.

    So I doubt she can replicate this.
    She's losing chakra staying alive, the MS user doesn't while Amaterasu burns her, she's unlikely to be composed enough to think of anything looking at Bee, and if hit in her torso (which is the most likely scenario) she actually can't do anything.
     
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  22. ~Kakashi~ Well-Known Member

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    Just be a really weak character or inanimate object. The stronger you or your defense are(Danzo, Gyuki, fire proof Toad Stomach, raiton cloak, etc) the worse the effect it seems to have. If you're some fodder samurai or a regular ass tree, it's a breeze to deal with.
     
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    This is entirely irrelevant because she demonstrated that she can deflect flames that are in contact with her body. The flames burned her arms.

    When Amaterasu spawns on her, she just deflects it with her strength and Byakugo.

    Unless Amaterasu comes with a superglue that sticks to her...

    Again irrelevant.

    Madara's fire was trolled low difficulty. Merely being stronger than that fire is not a guarantee of success. Amaterasu is still a flame and is subject to the same behavior as normal fire. It can be boosted by wind the same as regular fire.

    Why are Amaterasu flames not subject to getting flicked away like fire (given enough power)?

    The best that can be said about Amaterasu is that it will burn her worse than fire, but that is not an issue because she can heal.
     
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    Dodging it with high level speed.

    Shedding afflicted body parts eg. Oral Rebirth, cutting off a limb.

    Absorbing it.

    Repelling it eg. Shinra Tensei

    Blocking it with another ninjutsu, though this requires very fast reaction and jutsu casting speed.
     
  25. dergeist Well-Known Member

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    Amputation.

    Have somebody close by who can absorb it(Kaguya's and Madara's absorbtion ability) or seal it.

    Expulsion of chakra from a tailed beast like Naruto.

    Imo, mokuton expulsion from the body can work the same way as chakra cloak expulsion.

    Kamui or Madara's unknown absorbtion agility and an obstruction between you and the flames.

    Edit forgot these.

    Oro's rebirth, although it's chakra heavy.
    Izanagi, although it costs the eye.
    TSB with active negation Jutsu, as long as there's no senjutsu in it.
     
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  26. Icegaze 氷の眼差し

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    no plot stupidity listed from most effective to least effective

    - goudama
    - wood release [separate the burnt part]
    - Izanagi
    - Preta path
    - Shinra tensei
    - kamui
    -hirashin
    -Raiton shunshin
    -Bijuu Chakra cloak
    - Oral rebirth
    - hachibi replacement technique
    -Muu fission technique
    - Muu invisibility tech
    - fire seal [jiriaya]
     
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  27. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    Smoke bomb, E-rank Kawarimi no Jutsu, Kage Bunshin no Jutsu are all good counters.
    Basically, anyone can counter Amaterasu, especially Kage level fighters, they've all an innate immunity towards MS techniques.
     
  28. LIBU ''Nothing Is Something''

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    1.It's not a fire ball variation that she will see it coming and punch it away.
    2. If it is on her torso then its not like she can shake it off or throw it away with her hands.
     
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    The Ama bounces off of 106cm reflection power.
     
  30. SakuraLover16 Sakura + Sasuke = Sarada

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    So can you explain what you mean by focus? I was arguing with Munboy and no one else said anything to come and correct me if I was wrong.
     
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