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Crocodile and Jimbe vs Ace and Katakuri

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by Akagami no Timmy, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. Akagami no Timmy Sakazuki defeater

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    Takes place on a small beach.

    Hard call Ace's flames could turn crocodile's sand into glass but Crocodile's sand could smother Ace's flame.
    Crocodile has a logia but Katakuri's awakened paramecia may as well be a logia.
    Jimbe can retreat to the ocean and use it's water to fight but Ace can boil the water and also dry him out if he doesn't let him retreat to the Ocean.
    Jimbe's water techniques can bypass Katakuri's devil fruit but Katakuri can tactically evade.

    Whatever side you pick don't act like there is no possibility of the other side winning or that one side would be able to win with ease. As we know from One Piece scoffers are always the most pathetic villains.
     
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    Katakuri solos, maybe low-mid diff if we're being very generous to Jinbei.
    Obviously, there is no possibility of the other side winning.
     
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    I'm guessing Ace is in his dead state right? only way he'll actually contribute...
     
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    Katakuri alone can win lol...around high mid diff
     
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    I'm gonna guess you guys are saying this because of how dominant Katakuri was against Luffy but the only reason it was hard for Luffy to throw of Katakuri's future sight was because it was just him. With Crocodile and Jimbe they can use surroundings to keep him on his toes and therefor limit his future sight usage.
     
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    Only reason Luffy was able to throw him off was when he caught him off guard, in the middle of his snack time. It's not gonna happen here. Not to mention non of them showed any speed feats remotely close to Snakeman - something Katakuri can keep up with.

    They're getting blitzed here.
     
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  7. Akagami no Timmy Sakazuki defeater

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    Can you please give an example of anytime when someone under Yonko level easily defeated shichibukai level?
     
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    Jinbei is much weaker than Luffy/Dogtooth and can't really keep up with them at all. The only reason he can really fight at all here is that he has the ocean nearby, and water is effective against the mochi fruit. Crocodile is almost a nonfactor.

    Uh...what? Alabasta Luffy defeated Crocodile. Preskip Lucci easily destroyed a stronger version of Luffy. Lucci is not strong enough to fight Dogtooth, or even Ace, at all.
     
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    There is no such thing as "shichibukai level". Crocodile got done by Alabasta Luffy (no gears nor haki) yet we have guys like Mihawk on the same group whom Luffy even now wouldn't defeat. Shichibukai isn't a level cap.
     
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  10. DiscoZoro20 Ōka Shichibukai

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    Why would you put 2 vice admiral/low yonko commander level characters against an admiral level character on top of another low yonko commander level chara?
     
  11. xenos5 Objectionable Objection

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    Katakuri solos even if you take Ace away from his team and add him to the other team lol.
     
  12. Akagami no Timmy Sakazuki defeater

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    Actually you guys are right every possibility other than knee jerk reactions are how One Piece works sorry I didn't notice that earlier.

    Luffy did defeat crocodile but I guarantee you if they had a fight a week later Crocodile wouldn't underestimate Luffy and beat him. Crocodile has been described as being like Luffy and now that he has learnt from Luffy he probably could pull off some get stronger during the fight like Luffy. I get your guys points of view are reasonable but to think that every other possibility is easily dismisable just seems ridiculous.

    Luffy wouldn't be able to beat that team and he beat Katakuri.
     
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    Akainu vs Helmeppo. Who would win? Do you think there's a possibility that Helmeppo will win? Is saying that Akainu will win just a "knee jerk" reaction?

    This thread is somewhat less extreme than Akainu vs Helmeppo, but it's still a very one-sided fight.
     
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    Can go either way extreme diff (in near death condition). Jinbei blocked his yonko attack combined of her 2 homies without any damage. Kata has nothing close to this level. He might breach his defense after may be a 100 hits or so,but even in this case ocean is nearby and Jim can just hide here and bombard him all day long until his mochi gets wet. To be fair he can't reach him in ocean at all.
     
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    Rookie Ace stalemated Jinbei, on a beach. That was before most of Ace's "explosive growth". The Ace here is stronger than Jinbei. Do you think Crocodile will defeat Dogtooth?
     
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    It was just a bad writing. Or Jinbei didn't even try to hide in the water. Ace literally can't do anything in the water. As a fire logia he is doomed as soon as he touches it. It is like to say that Kisame can lose to katon user in his waterdome (where it isn't even possible to ignite anything).
     
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    Ace vs Jinbei literally already happened in the manga. They stalemated for 5 days. I don't care whether it was bad writing.
     
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    So even if fight wasn't shown and has illogical conclusion it is ok?I doubt that anyone here thinks that Ace can block yonko attack and throw them away. At best he is around YC4 lvl. Jinbei on multiple occasions stopped Lin Lin's fire homie and completely extinguished her flame then she tried to burn Sunny. Only this puts him far above Ace in my book. He shouldn't have any problems vs rookie Ace so it was an outlier.
     
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    We saw them fighting. Do you think Ace cheated or something?
     
  20. xenos5 Objectionable Objection

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    Yes Luffy would be able to beat that team, and Luffy BARELY beat Katakuri. At the end it was just a Double KO that Luffy recovered from quicker.
     
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    More like it was an outlier. As Ace has far worse feats than Jinbei. Fighting,blocking and pushing back a yonko>anything Ace has shown (though he hasn't shown any good feats anyway,he even lost to Yami Teach). Near the ocean a draw?Not a chance unless Jinbei was stroke by heavy PIS/CIS.
     
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    Make it underwater fight then first team can wins, Neg diff. Otherwise Kuri solos
     
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    Team Ace
     
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    I'm glad everyone agrees that Jimbe and Crocodile would win. For a while I thought that people actually thought that crocodile couldn't remove the sand part of the beach from underneath them whilst constantly bombarding them to throw of :catakuri's future sight trapping them in Jimbe's underwater hell.
     
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    There is no possibility that Jimbei and Crocodile win and Katakuri/Ace win with ease.
     
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    Ace and Kata mid diff
     
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    Kata soloes low diff.
     
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    Ace goes for a swim.

    Katakuri joins him 5 minutes later.
     
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    Do you dislike Croc and Jinbei or something?
     
  30. Akagami no Timmy Sakazuki defeater

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    Nope love em. That's why I'm giving them a chance to show off. Much like how Oda makes the characters he loves win in unimaginable circumstances. Everyone on this thread bar a few are Coby's before he met Luffy.
     
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