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CS2 Sasuke vs. Jiraiya

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by DaVizWiz, Dec 4, 2019 at 5:14 PM.

  1. DaVizWiz

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    As many have already noticed, I’m on a mission to find out who can blitz Base Jiraiya successfully. So I’m going up the speed chain to see who is the slowest ninja who can oblige in everyone’s eyes.

    Since Gated Lee and Base Hebi Sasuke failed in many posters eyes, I’ll move further up the chain to a Senjutsu amped Hebi and see if that changes the minds of the portrayal heavy wiki bot debaters. Although I don’t consider this path faster than CS2 Sasuke, Asura Path (the one that took off SM Jiraiya’s arm and ripped Base Jiraiya’s throat out) is my next choice up the ladder should Sasuke fail again here.

    Location: Outside Konoha Gates
    Distance: 5m
    Mindset: Kill IC
     
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    I don’t think you understand what a blitz it
     
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    Hebi Sasuke is not blitzing Jiraiya

    Imo you gotta go to V2 Bee to blitz Jiraiya
     
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    I mean even Kisame didn’t get blitzed by V2 bee
     
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    You say “even kisame” like his reactions are not factually better than any Sannin
     
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    Meh, I don’t see why his would be better then sage amped Jiraiya’s by such a monumental amount to go from being able to ready yourself for a block to being unable to even see the person move.
     
  7. DaVizWiz

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    We’ll find the result.

    It’s going be interesting to see how fast people think Jiraiya is.

    He might evolve into an elite speedster by the end of it.

    I need some laughs.
     
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    That's not the issue, the issue is he's very feats-focused so he sees no reason why people hyped for their speed wouldn't completely blitz Jiraiya since he has no 'reaction feats'. Scaling through portrayal (I.e it doesn't make sense that chunin-levels only need knowledge and short distance to one-shot Jiraiya) doesn't fly, arguments of non-anti-feats don't fly (I.e Jiraiya hasn't been blitzed), and DB scans probably don't fly either.

    Suigetsu and Jugo were not blitzed immediately against V1 A4 and were praised by it so Jiraiya not mounting a single reaction against Hebi Sasuke shouldn't fly.
     
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    Doesnt matter if you cant make sense of it

    It’s factually true

    Kisames reactions are way better than Jiraiyas even with a SM amp as per feats

    End of story

    Kinda like his striking strength feats are better too

    Just cuz Kisame has the edge in a stat or 2 doesnt allow Jiraiya to be placed above him cuz you believe hes stronger in a general sense :oldshrug
     
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    Thanks for clearing things up Shark.

    Let me know when you’ve moved Kazekage Gaara above BoS Sasuke so we can begin to respect your portrayal heavy naruto wiki thoughts.
     
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    Mentioned this a few times. Blitz occurs when there’s just that big of a gap in physical speed like A4 V2 levels
     
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    We’ll get there hopefully

    I mean I hope so, the laughs will be legendary
     
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    WA Gaara is a tier above BoS Sasuke. BoS Gaara was captured by Deidara in the desert.
     
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    A very good point, but Kisame’s reaction would need to be multiple tiers higher in reaction contrasted to Jman to go from clearly seeing someone and being able t react and talk to yourself to can’t even mentally perceive to someone. That’s a really high jump
     
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    That’s great analysis.

    The billion gallon atmosphere drawing in one panel C3 blocking desert gaara who is a standing Kage is below 3T Sasuke still.

    When that changes for you maybe we can debate again.

    But for now the best I can do is ask simple questions for my amusement. Who knows what the answer will be, but I’m enjoying them so far.

    Asura is next. Please don’t share yet, id like to hear the answer in it’s own thread.
     
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    I'm not ranking BoS Gaara in a desert in my tier list as I don't consider it neutral, and the one fight he had there he was captured by Deidara who struggled against 3T Sasuke's incomplete arsenal.

    You'd also do well to note that even then I stated that BoS Gaara could go up a tier in my tier list.

    But let's pretend Chunin-levels that know Jiraiya is a Sannin will defeat him with low difficulty before he can move.
     
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    Are you attempting to explain your case?

    I’m not interested shark, I just want the amusing answers at this stage.

    That’s not a tier list, that’s a documented tragedy.
     
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    For a speed blitz to happen there need to be a massive gap in speed; the gap isn’t large enough here especially when on considers Jiraiya only needs to clap his hands together to pull out a defensive summon to block the attack
     
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    Doesn’t he need to bite his finger too?

    So Kakashi has a massive speed gap on V2 Sharingan Pain?

    DMS Kakashi >>> Kaguya in speed?

    I’m beginning to learn..

    :lbj
     
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    The same kisame whose sword swing jirayia blocked mid swing via summon in base?...
     
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    Where does this guy come up with these things lol It surely isn't from the manga or canon material.

    Inb4 WorldsWeakest finds a way to say Kisame (who claimed himself to not even be in the same league) is better than Sannin
     
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    Not to mention with Hiruzen scaling Orochimaru has better reaction feats, and Jman scales to him if not beats him in reactions with sage mode
     
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    In my opinion reaction wise The Sannin are all in the same tier(bar SM) and KN4 is potrayed as Sannin tier stats wise(almost killing Base Jirayia and compared to Tsunade,aswell as fighting on decent footing with Orochimaru who would've won if he didn't have to retreat.

    V2 Jin levels of speed AND Above like V2 Bee,Ay,Minato etc
     
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    Bow would oro have won? He couldn't even hurt KN4
     
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    He had him pinned down with a Kusanagi and flung him across the forest like he was a paper during a windstorm. The sword probably would have eventually peirced him or Orochimaru could have outlasted. KN4 does not last forevr and Orochimaru has insane stamina via his biology. Hydra probably could've raped too.

    Hydra can use all the jutsu Oro has. So imagine 8 Forest level Kusanagi's.
     
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    Fair point there.
     
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    Orochimaru also stated Saskue>KN3 Naruto.

    And that same Saskue needed Orochimaru to be on his death bed and still barely killed him.
     
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    Naruto literally slapped that tooth pick away.




    People spreading wrong information.

    About Orochimaru outlasting...


    Yeah sure why not.
     
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    What happens if Sasuke summons Manda inside Toad Tummy? What if its Anko summoning a similar sized snake?

    Anyway, one guy completed a summoned faster than Itachi could notice while the other was actively tracked by a weaker Itachi.

    Toad Stomach + Karyu Endan GG
     
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    Spite thread?

    Stop trolling Jiraiya wins this easily
     
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