1. Welcome to the forums! Take a second to look at our Beginner's Guide. It contains the information necessary for you to have an easier experience here.

    Thanks and have fun. -NF staff
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Stop Scrolling!
    Attention - When discussing new chapters of an anime or manga, please use a source from the official list of approved sources. If you would like to contribute to the list, please do so in the suggestions section.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. If you write blogs about the current anime season (for linking) or like to add descriptions / impressions on certain series and like to add them to our wiki, then send us a ticket.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. We want YOU the community to help contribute to the new Spiral Rep titles!

    Please, check this thread.

    Dismiss Notice
  5. My fellow ningen! It's time for another Dragon Ball Banner Contest!

    Dismiss Notice
  6. [​IMG]

    We are going to give one month of coloured usernames to a couple of NF users.

    Please, check NFs Valentine's Day Event

    Dismiss Notice

  7. Give NF the love she deserves! Join the NF-chan drawing contest and draw NF as NF-chan now!
    Earn some prizes... and maybe hugs and kisses from the forum herself?!
    CLICK HERE
    Dismiss Notice

DBS Movie: Broly treading that grey area again?

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Namikaze Minato Flash, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. Namikaze Minato Flash Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,108
    Likes Received:
    193
    Trophy Points:
    669
    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2007
    Reputation:
    From what I gathered from the 3rd trailer, it doesn’t appear as if Broly is some homicidal maniac completely consumed by the savagery of his Saiyan heritage. He doesn’t even look like a real villain tbh. Just an op Saiyan closing the chapter of his destined battle with the Prince of all Saiyans and the strongest Saiyan their race may ever produce. In other words, he’s in a similar circumstance as Jiren only his revenge (if that will be the theme for him) is justified because of being exiled to die by his king and being manipulated by the tyrannical emperor who destroyed his people. Thoughts...?
     
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2018
    Tags:
  2. MShadows Deathbat

    Messages:
    21,966
    Likes Received:
    9,352
    Trophy Points:
    3,893
    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2013
    Reputation:
    *Broly raging with his collar on*
    UUURRRRAAAAAAAAWGH!

    *Collar gets destroyed*
    UUURRrrgh.. 'cough cough' oh, my... please excuse me gentlemen! I don't know what had gotten into me.
     
    • Funny Funny x 16
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
    • List
  3. JayDZ3 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,488
    Likes Received:
    821
    Trophy Points:
    1,068
    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2017
    Reputation:
    Why is toriyama so fucking hellbent on making saiyans seem like semi decent people?

    First gine, then bardock giving a fuck about his wife and kids and now broly is a good boy who never did anything wrong
     
  4. NW Well Known-Member

    Messages:
    47,746
    Likes Received:
    2,912
    Trophy Points:
    2,869
    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2012
    Reputation:
    It's still too early call, but I swear if "I am a devil" turns into "I am a victimized cinnamon roll"... :tiredpepe
     
  5. JayDZ3 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,488
    Likes Received:
    821
    Trophy Points:
    1,068
    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2017
    Reputation:
    I can already tell its gonna be some gohan esque shit about how he never wanted the life he has and he hates violence and paragus used him.
     
  6. The Supreme God GODSPEED Aka Thespiritdetective . Grumpy lumpy.

    Messages:
    7,974
    Likes Received:
    1,198
    Trophy Points:
    1,193
    Joined:
    May 23, 2014
    Reputation:
    I was thinking it being more along the lines of broly finding a purpose other than just being an engine of destruction
     
  7. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    27,562
    Likes Received:
    10,558
    Trophy Points:
    4,419
    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2015
    Reputation:
    That would destroy broly character last thing we need is some alpha monster like broly to be some sorta pacifist pansy who hates fighting
     
  8. Rasendori Mr. Tambourine Man

    Messages:
    3,249
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    328
    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Reputation:
    Nice guy Broly just adds depth, and I have no issue with depth.

    The real issue is Toriyama decimating Alpha Bardock with Jor-el Bardock.
     
  9. Lord Haunter Tyrant Overlord

    Messages:
    1,951
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    608
    Joined:
    May 12, 2016
    Reputation:
    This is the only real issue is Bardock character being changed and ruined.

    In a race of at the very least of one million people, there is not at least one of them that does not like fighting? Aka Gine? Don't see the problem with her being like that.

    Broly was a homicidal maniac in the first movie, a big angry brute who could only say one word in the second movie and just an abomination in the third movie.

    They already gave the guy three different villain roles, and this rebooted Broly would be way less unique if he was just any of the old three Broly's but stronger.
     
  10. Namikaze Minato Flash Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,108
    Likes Received:
    193
    Trophy Points:
    669
    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2007
    Reputation:
    I wouldn’t want that but Broly having a bit of sense and depth wouldn’t be terrible. He can still reck shit just with opposing ideals to our main protagonists that are not inheritantly evil, but still antagonistic. I prefer tragic enemies over mindless destroyers any day...
     
  11. Action Hero Biribiri

    Messages:
    548
    Likes Received:
    139
    Trophy Points:
    543
    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Reputation:
    Flag:
    Trinidad and Tobago
    Would be interesting if he survives and becomes a recurring character. Alot better than ragin autist we got early on.
     
  12. Extravlad Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    13,371
    Likes Received:
    1,112
    Trophy Points:
    1,468
    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2012
    Reputation:
    Flag:
    France
    Broly surviving is fine but don't turn him into a good guy ffs :giogio
     
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
    • List
  13. OLK Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,512
    Likes Received:
    337
    Trophy Points:
    483
    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2018
    Reputation:
    They already had the girl saying "He's being forced to fight" or whatever, along with Goku saying he ain't bad.
    God dammit. The fights will be good at least
     
  14. Namikaze Minato Flash Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,108
    Likes Received:
    193
    Trophy Points:
    669
    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2007
    Reputation:
    I hope that shot of Whis appearing to evade Broly’s attack is legit. I’m interested in his opinion of Broly and the diologue they might have...
     
  15. The Saiyan Prince Vegeta Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    12,782
    Likes Received:
    1,078
    Trophy Points:
    1,269
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2011
    Reputation:
    I really hope not. You don't need to turn Broly into a bitch-like Saiyan, which is the very opposite of what their race represents, to give him depth.
     
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
    • List
  16. Namikaze Minato Flash Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,108
    Likes Received:
    193
    Trophy Points:
    669
    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2007
    Reputation:
    He was abandoned by his king and left to die on some obscure planet. That grudge is necessary. Vegeta might be catching that work for being the Prince. Goku for having the opposite in loving parents who sent him off for protection which is something Broly could be envious of. I just don’t want him to be a brainless twat driven by evil and destruction without reason. He can still be solid without actually being a generic villain. Just a Saiyan who believes in his convictions so strongly that there can be no compromise between him and his fellow surviving Saiyans...
     
  17. Broly The Almighty Saiyan

    Messages:
    1,655
    Likes Received:
    2,220
    Trophy Points:
    1,338
    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2018
    Reputation:
    Exactly! I don't even see the point of giving him this utterly savage new design if he's going to become a soft-hearted Saiyan who has no interest in fights!!
     
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
    • List
  18. Arles Celes The Psychologist

    Messages:
    18,073
    Likes Received:
    556
    Trophy Points:
    1,368
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2007
    Reputation:
    Eh, base Broly from the original movies wasn't all that much of a raging monster...unless he turned into a SS and lost himsef to the power of the transformation. His chief character trait was his hate towards Goku anyway.

    Broly going berserk after going SS or above might still remain. And he might love fighting as any pure blooded saiyan.

    I wouldn't mind if Broly hating Goku was no more the case with the new Broly. Or if it was just dislike and not him losing his mind every time he sees Goku.
     
  19. The Saiyan Prince Vegeta Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    12,782
    Likes Received:
    1,078
    Trophy Points:
    1,269
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2011
    Reputation:
    That's all well and good, but the lines from the trailer indicate that he's not fighting because he wants to and that he's not all that bad of a guy. That's not something I associate with Broly nor do I think it should be. He can be given depth without turning him into another nice Saiyan.
     
  20. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    27,562
    Likes Received:
    10,558
    Trophy Points:
    4,419
    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2015
    Reputation:
    This hmmm being given depth is fine but having Him be some good boy who wouldn’t hurt a fly shit is a no go
     
  21. Plague Punches People in the Face

    Messages:
    8,275
    Likes Received:
    398
    Trophy Points:
    865
    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2007
    Reputation:
    I agree with the majority of you. It seems they're trying to making him a more sympathetic character. The "Not wanting to fight" stuff just feels like he's stealing Gohan's thunder.

    Btw, saw Gohan on a poster. He's in the film, but he'll probably get less lines than Goten and Trunks.

    Anyways, back to this; I know this sounds cliche, but that Green chick (Cheelai?) that's with him might be his love interest too. I hope they don't make him return to normal "With the Power of Love" or some other bullshit like that. It just seems to mushy.
     
  22. Superstars Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    12,647
    Likes Received:
    1,058
    Trophy Points:
    1,019
    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2008
    Reputation:
    This is what you snowflake humanist wanted anyway.

    Don't pretend
     
  23. Pilaf The Man in the Rain

    Messages:
    25,197
    Likes Received:
    912
    Trophy Points:
    1,518
    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Reputation:
    Him not fighting Goku and Vegeta because he wants to doesn't mean he doesn't enjoy fighting. It's probably a reference to Paragus' control device.
     
  24. watertaco Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,045
    Likes Received:
    133
    Trophy Points:
    114
    Joined:
    May 9, 2016
    Reputation:
    This x1000.

    I can tolerate "nice" Broly.

    A Bardock that gives a shit about his wife and son?:dammit
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • List
  25. Toxic Saiyan Borderline. Sensible. Radioactivity. (BSR)

    Messages:
    5,481
    Likes Received:
    447
    Trophy Points:
    638
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2016
    Reputation:
    It may be the control device or referring to the trailer saying that he has a raw impulse to fight it might be a bit more to it.

    It could give a whole new perspective on how a saiyan wants to fight vs. the need to fight. And give us a new outlook on the saiyans in general.
     
  26. Zannrebel Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    96
    Likes Received:
    20
    Trophy Points:
    133
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2016
    Reputation:
    Because giving them individualism is better than having a whole race defined by 1 and only trait. Syfy fiction would be shit otherwise.
     
  27. Superstars Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    12,647
    Likes Received:
    1,058
    Trophy Points:
    1,019
    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2008
    Reputation:
    Ever since you got green rep you've gone soft.

    They turned you.:tupac
     
  28. watertaco Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,045
    Likes Received:
    133
    Trophy Points:
    114
    Joined:
    May 9, 2016
    Reputation:
    I haven't been turned. DBS is still shit. I just focus more on One Piece now.:urouge
     
  29. Luiz Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    40,299
    Likes Received:
    683
    Trophy Points:
    1,818
    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    Reputation:
    They just don't make 'em like this anymore :wow


     
  30. pat pat Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    11,118
    Likes Received:
    1,201
    Trophy Points:
    1,344
    Joined:
    May 2, 2016
    Reputation:
    oh Broly being nice is ok Even tho he was a bastard before
    But bardock Craig about his family now even tho he was a bastard before is wrong?
    Double standards much?
     
Loading...