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DBS Movie: Broly treading that grey area again?

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Namikaze Minato Flash, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. Namikaze Minato Flash Well-Known Member

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    From what I gathered from the 3rd trailer, it doesn’t appear as if Broly is some homicidal maniac completely consumed by the savagery of his Saiyan heritage. He doesn’t even look like a real villain tbh. Just an op Saiyan closing the chapter of his destined battle with the Prince of all Saiyans and the strongest Saiyan their race may ever produce. In other words, he’s in a similar circumstance as Jiren only his revenge (if that will be the theme for him) is justified because of being exiled to die by his king and being manipulated by the tyrannical emperor who destroyed his people. Thoughts...?
     
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  2. MShadows Deathbat Moderator

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    *Broly raging with his collar on*
    UUURRRRAAAAAAAAWGH!

    *Collar gets destroyed*
    UUURRrrgh.. 'cough cough' oh, my... please excuse me gentlemen! I don't know what had gotten into me.
     
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  3. JayDZ3 Well-Known Member

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    Why is toriyama so fucking hellbent on making saiyans seem like semi decent people?

    First gine, then bardock giving a fuck about his wife and kids and now broly is a good boy who never did anything wrong
     
  4. NW Well Known-Member

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    It's still too early call, but I swear if "I am a devil" turns into "I am a victimized cinnamon roll"... :tiredpepe
     
  5. JayDZ3 Well-Known Member

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    I can already tell its gonna be some gohan esque shit about how he never wanted the life he has and he hates violence and paragus used him.
     
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    I was thinking it being more along the lines of broly finding a purpose other than just being an engine of destruction
     
  7. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member

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    That would destroy broly character last thing we need is some alpha monster like broly to be some sorta pacifist pansy who hates fighting
     
  8. Rasendori Mr. Tambourine Man

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    Nice guy Broly just adds depth, and I have no issue with depth.

    The real issue is Toriyama decimating Alpha Bardock with Jor-el Bardock.
     
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    This is the only real issue is Bardock character being changed and ruined.

    In a race of at the very least of one million people, there is not at least one of them that does not like fighting? Aka Gine? Don't see the problem with her being like that.

    Broly was a homicidal maniac in the first movie, a big angry brute who could only say one word in the second movie and just an abomination in the third movie.

    They already gave the guy three different villain roles, and this rebooted Broly would be way less unique if he was just any of the old three Broly's but stronger.
     
  10. Namikaze Minato Flash Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn’t want that but Broly having a bit of sense and depth wouldn’t be terrible. He can still reck shit just with opposing ideals to our main protagonists that are not inheritantly evil, but still antagonistic. I prefer tragic enemies over mindless destroyers any day...
     
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    Would be interesting if he survives and becomes a recurring character. Alot better than ragin autist we got early on.
     
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    Broly surviving is fine but don't turn him into a good guy ffs :giogio
     
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    They already had the girl saying "He's being forced to fight" or whatever, along with Goku saying he ain't bad.
    God dammit. The fights will be good at least
     
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    I hope that shot of Whis appearing to evade Broly’s attack is legit. I’m interested in his opinion of Broly and the diologue they might have...
     
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    I really hope not. You don't need to turn Broly into a bitch-like Saiyan, which is the very opposite of what their race represents, to give him depth.
     
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    He was abandoned by his king and left to die on some obscure planet. That grudge is necessary. Vegeta might be catching that work for being the Prince. Goku for having the opposite in loving parents who sent him off for protection which is something Broly could be envious of. I just don’t want him to be a brainless twat driven by evil and destruction without reason. He can still be solid without actually being a generic villain. Just a Saiyan who believes in his convictions so strongly that there can be no compromise between him and his fellow surviving Saiyans...
     
  17. Broly The Legendary Warrior of Space

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    Exactly! I don't even see the point of giving him this utterly savage new design if he's going to become a soft-hearted Saiyan who has no interest in fights!!
     
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    Eh, base Broly from the original movies wasn't all that much of a raging monster...unless he turned into a SS and lost himsef to the power of the transformation. His chief character trait was his hate towards Goku anyway.

    Broly going berserk after going SS or above might still remain. And he might love fighting as any pure blooded saiyan.

    I wouldn't mind if Broly hating Goku was no more the case with the new Broly. Or if it was just dislike and not him losing his mind every time he sees Goku.
     
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    That's all well and good, but the lines from the trailer indicate that he's not fighting because he wants to and that he's not all that bad of a guy. That's not something I associate with Broly nor do I think it should be. He can be given depth without turning him into another nice Saiyan.
     
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    This hmmm being given depth is fine but having Him be some good boy who wouldn’t hurt a fly shit is a no go
     
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    I agree with the majority of you. It seems they're trying to making him a more sympathetic character. The "Not wanting to fight" stuff just feels like he's stealing Gohan's thunder.

    Btw, saw Gohan on a poster. He's in the film, but he'll probably get less lines than Goten and Trunks.

    Anyways, back to this; I know this sounds cliche, but that Green chick (Cheelai?) that's with him might be his love interest too. I hope they don't make him return to normal "With the Power of Love" or some other bullshit like that. It just seems to mushy.
     
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    This is what you snowflake humanist wanted anyway.

    Don't pretend
     
  23. Pilaf The Man in the Rain

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    Him not fighting Goku and Vegeta because he wants to doesn't mean he doesn't enjoy fighting. It's probably a reference to Paragus' control device.
     
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    This x1000.

    I can tolerate "nice" Broly.

    A Bardock that gives a shit about his wife and son?:dammit
     
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  25. Toxic Saiyan Borderline. Sensible. Radioactivity. (BSR)

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    It may be the control device or referring to the trailer saying that he has a raw impulse to fight it might be a bit more to it.

    It could give a whole new perspective on how a saiyan wants to fight vs. the need to fight. And give us a new outlook on the saiyans in general.
     
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    Because giving them individualism is better than having a whole race defined by 1 and only trait. Syfy fiction would be shit otherwise.
     
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    Ever since you got green rep you've gone soft.

    They turned you.:tupac
     
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    I haven't been turned. DBS is still shit. I just focus more on One Piece now.:urouge
     
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    They just don't make 'em like this anymore :wow


     
  30. pat pat Well-Known Member

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    oh Broly being nice is ok Even tho he was a bastard before
    But bardock Craig about his family now even tho he was a bastard before is wrong?
    Double standards much?
     
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