Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Extravlad, Mar 23, 2017.
But Weiss and his cult sect keep telling me Hit would beat him.
I wonder who to believe.
hit could beat him with hax or something
he has the cholesterol punch
Always happy when OP provides a source.
Hit > Vegeta is all that matters
Hit would def. beat him. Everyone knows that.
Someone who could provide a source.
Vegeta would kill him.
He really wouldn't but okay. Black also wouldn't beat Current Hit either.
Just rewatched the episode.
Hit told Goku that everything will be over in one strike and he was right.
After his "death" Goku even stated that this wasn't like timeskip but something even greater and he figured out that strike in seconds. Vegeta wouldn't figured a thing because even timestop was too much for him to overcome on his own.
Vegeta is smarter than Goku.
Vegeta would kill him.
Black was way stronger than the Goku who fought Hit to a tie
Outside of fights, sure. In fights? Nope.
Vegeta came up with the SSJGod switch to Blue to fight Black. He has genius lvl battle tactics
Here's your source btw.
Beerus > Black > everybody else that's not a GoD/Angel/new character
Goku: "We need a plan"
Vegeta's plan: "Defeat Black first!!!!"
They still get owned.
Genius lvl battle tactics right there.
Goku is easily smarter than Vegeta in a fight. Vegeta would die to Hit. Get over it. Black dies too.
You're taking it out of context. The producer meant up until that point. So was Black stronger than Hit was in the U6 tournament? Yes. Was he stronger than current Hit? Not necessarily. Obviously Black isn't stronger than every character weaker than Beerus that's going to be introduced from now on. Don't take things so literally.
Is there any decent proof that Black isn't still the strongest fused/angel/GoD? He really didn't need to fuse with Zamasu in the 1st place, in the anime. The clones seemed broken enough to handle it all.
Crazy how the anime has made no reference of the previous saga, at all. That's a 1st for DB.
wow, OP is months late
Trunks had better feats than him vs. Fused Zamasu.
Hit one shots Goku in Blue when the latter has no knowledge of his abilities. So suffice to say something similar will happen to Black since he wasn't leagues above Goku.
Jiren is above Black by power scaling alone.
Lmao Hit is only equal to Goku who was weaker than Vegeta who himself was surpassed by Black when he learned to use his rage to get stronger.
KK Goku > Black > Vegeta > Hit = Goku
KK Goku would rape current Hit effortlessly
so, a guy who happens to be involved in the productions says he thinks Black is the strongest
the same Black who got stomped by Vegeta
All that sounds like assumptions, tbh. And Black was leagues above Goku. . .and Vegeta, at the same damn time.
It was refrenced in the first epiode of this arc when whis told goku what zeno could where goku said he saw it happened .
Not the point. Your thread relies on the fact that a producer's word holds true, which it doesn't by your own admission.
So you just /threaded your own thread.
Define "decent" proof then. There is more evidence to suggest that Black has been surpassed on multiple occasions as of now than there is to suggest otherwise.
> KK Goku > Black
> Black strongest outside of Gods and Angels
Which one is it? lol
Also Hit went toe to toe with KKx10 Goku and that's canon.
And he fodderized Vegeta which is also canon.
Anime Black was completely broken. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the next strongest fighter to the GoDs.
It being explicitly said or shown. Like they do in every following saga; where characters say,
"Wow, you're even stronger than so and so was back when such and such happened."
So far, the evidence seems slight since Black's fusion with Zamasu in the anime was so abrupt and seemingly unnecessary. We have no idea what the full extent of Black's power is and no one has made any note that Black has been surpassed.
That reminds me, was Goku still using KKx10 after he shattered the barrier in his fight with Hit?
It looked like he was using KKx2 afterwards...