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DBZ - Ultimate Gohan VS SSJ3 Gotenks, SSJ3 Goku & SSJ2 Vegeta

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball Battledome' started by Cryorex, Jul 9, 2020.

  1. Cryorex

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    Vegeta's just there to act as a distraction at a key moment potentially. Can they defeat Gohan?
     
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    Manga - Gohan stomps them all.

    Anime - Goku beats Gohan
     
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    Honestly? Yeah

    Gohan is sorta incompetent and it’s already been proven that SSJ3 x2 would manhandle him. I don’t think manga Goku and Gotenks are far off from each other (although a lot of people will disagree which is fair)
     
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    It's a repeat of Nappa vs the Z Fighters.

    The strongest one on the team is Gotenks but he's too childish. After Gohan dispatches him the others should be no problem.
     
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  5. Juub

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    And Nappa almost got killed.

    Gotenks definitely has enough firepower to hurt Gohan and with Goku and Vegeta backing him up, they could easily come up with something to leave Gohan wide open for Gotenks to hit him.

    The team wins. Gohan isn't even twice as strong as Gotenks. Not enough of an advantage to secure a victory.
     
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    Goku and Vegeta throw their own Kienzans at Gohan :lbj
     
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    In a normal fight, Goku and Vegeta could serve as a distraction for Gotenks to pull something up like the Ghost Kamikaze Attack which is hella strong. Gohan is really overconfident so I can see the Team winning 6-7/10. Especially when Gotenks isn't very far behind Gohan since he could have beat Super Buu as well but played around too much.

    Make them all bloodlusted, Gohan kicks both Goku and Vegeta heads off and proceeds the beat the s*** out of Gotenks until he defuses.
     
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    assuming gohan is serious and isn't fucking around he stomps them
     
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    3 vs 1? Gohan wins unless the 3 form a plan and work together.
     
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    You have to be utterly insane to give this fight to Gohan. He's about 1.5x Gotenks' power and Gotenks has two huge distractions to help him. Gohan isn't blitzing Gotenks and can be killed. He hasn't got near enough of a power advantage to kill all three before getting murdered.

    You also have shit like Goku being able him to kill him with a Kienzan or Vegeta being capable of hurting him with a Final Atonement.

    Gohan loses 10/10 times here.
     
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    It can be even less than 1.5x, if we consider Gohan was 1.5x Buu and SSJ3 Gotenks still had an a bit noticeable power gap over Buu to the point he would have killed him had he not played around that much.
     
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    and thats means much because?
    gaps in DB are never mean that much or to say are that consistent
     
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    That means he possesses nowhere near enough of a power advantage to kill all three. He’s 100% within Gotenks’ killing range.
     
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    highly doubt that
    and again if were assuming everybody serious and going for the W theres nothing preventing gohan taking vegeta and goku out and make this between him and gotenks
     
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    And you’d be wrong because there’s no fucking way Raditz would have died from an attack from a guy a third of his PL whereas Gohan would survive something far in excess of his own.

    To top it all of we’ve seen miserable SSJ Gotenks mangle Super Buu with his ghosts. Gohan is 100% getting badly hurt if he eats a strong attack from Gotenks.
     
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    Ghost Kamikaze Attack will ruin Gohan’s day
     
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    Vegeta and Goku are basically fodder at this point in time compared to ultimate Gohan and Gotenks tbh



    Nothing stops Gohan from Killing them
     
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    Except Gotenks in his way.
     
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    Gohan ragdolls everyone here no diff

    Gotenks is legit fodder material for him as he lacks Buus regen, he was casually picking apart a fighter on Buus level and basically blitzed him at one point with no issues.

    And Gotenks is head and shoulders above the others, who will flat out get blitzed by Gohan no argument.
     
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    SSJ2 Vegeta is such a non factor that it’s honestly pretty sad:hestonpls
     
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    Assuming this is Buu Saga:

    In-Character this hurts everyone. Gohan and Gotenks are Overconfident, Goku won't go at Gohan with deadly force. Vegeta is a nonfactor.

    With just a "Serious" mindset (Not Necessarily Bloodlusted) Gohan 1-Shots Goku and Vegeta.
    It comes down to him vs. Gotenks.

    Gotenks' Kamikaze Ghosts could win it for him. But I feel like he'd be getting pummeled to hard and fast to make them.
    Realistically I could see Gohan injuring or breaking his arm or losing it like against Cell. But I think from there he'd be smart enough to go all out against Gotenks.

    Some inconsistency here, but Buutenks actually got Gohan with a Kamikaze Ghost and he didn't lose a limb. But he was basically KO'd.

    I say Gohan takes it 6/10 times. Unless Gotenks fights smart.

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    I'd see the fight going like this:

    ~Gotenks starts making his Kamikaze Ghosts
    ~Goku charges forward to engage Gohan in melee.
    ~Vegeta starts charging up an attack.
    ~By the time Goku makes it over to Gohan, he's already behind Vegeta, and takes him out of the fight.
    ~Gotenks sends his Kamikaze Ghosts after Gohan. This is where it depends. Gohan either hits one and it explodes, or blasts them. Or possibly even dodges them. How much damage he takes depends.

    I think Gohan would survive with moderate to serious injuries. But from then on, 1-shot Goku then beat Gotenks to KO. Or if he just dodged them earlier, KO Goku unscathed.

    I don't think Gohan is 2x Super Buu, but I think he's more than 1.5x. Probably more like 1.75x.
     
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    Gohan ripped apart super Buu casually, and Gotenks doesn't have any healing abilities. He could literally one-two shot Gotenks
     
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    Gohan should be able to win this, but he has displayed stupidity/overconfidence to possibly lose.

    Vegeta is almost a non factor, but his Final Explosion and Final Flash allows him to hurt ppl who are above him. SS3 Goku is much weaker but he can outwit Gohan. SS3 Gotenks is not too far from Ultimate Gohan.

    I'd say Ultimate Gohan can win 7/10 or 8/10 times.
     
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    He didn't even come close to killing Buu. He's in the 1.5x stronger range and good teams have shown the ability to win against such disparity. Gohan isn't the brightest fighter either.
     
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    Ignoring the fact Buu was honestly weaker than Gotenks, we know that Gohan is nowhere close to being even twice as strong as Gotenks

    Ghost Kamikaze would body Gohan if he gets hit by it
     
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    I'm not so sure about that. Didn't Gohan get hit with one of Buutenks'?

    When the Kamikaze Ghosts fucked up Super Buu, I'm fairly certain he wasn't fighting seriously. That was against SSJ1 Gotenks. Later when he took the ghosts from SSJ3 Gotenks, he seemed even less damaged than from the SSJ1 Ghosts.
     
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    I don’t remember Buu using it against anyone but Vegetto

    If he did use it on Gohan it was probably Toei filler

    Buu also said he was intentionally holding back the entire time he fought Gohan
     
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    SSJ3 Gotenks vs. Super Boo was an extremely equal match with Gotenks having a small advantage. He's only marginally stronger than Boo.

    SSJ3 Goku and SJ2 Vegeta together are weaker than Super Boo individually, which makes them totally fodder for Gohan and an insignificant addition for Gotenks. Their only chance is the Ghost Kamikaze Attack (which can be avoided) and the Final atonement, in which Gohan can simply prevent it from happening and one shot Vegeta
     
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    Or Goku/Gotenks chopping Gohan in half with a Kienzan. They also got a bundle of tricks up their sleeves such as the ghosts, Solar Flare, Final Atonement etc.

    Gotenks would have to kill all three before any of them reacts which isn’t happening.
     
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    Found the video where Buu used it on Gohan, even they treated it as being extremely lethal to him

    and that was only one ghost

    Buu was also holding back here


    Vegeta knows how to use it too
     
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