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Death Battle & One-Minute Melee

Discussion in 'Meta-Battledome' started by Bolt Crank, Apr 2, 2015.

  1. Volt manta The Librarian

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    Possible upgrade for Twilight: latest episode canonized the whole deal in Journal of the Two sisters where Starswirl and five other unicorns banded together in order to raise the sun. Starswirl himself wouldn't get the full scaling, but he does scale to 1/6 of it. Twilight and Starlight both ballpark to him via feats and statements, so they're all somewhere in the Large planetary area.

    ...Still not enough to even touch Raven, but it is a nice addition nonetheless.:rainbowsheep
     
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  2. Adamant soul Well-Known Member

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    What feats and what statements?
     
  3. Volt manta The Librarian

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    >Starlight and Twilight both finished spells Starswirl wasn't capable of finishing
    >Shadowlock claimed that Twilight was almost as strong as Starswirl the bearded after trading beam attacks with her. Starlight traded even with her in the cutie re-map
    >General in-universe standing regarding those two being the strongest mages of their time to the point Celestia, Starswirl etc. have all praised them for their magical talents
    Not to say they're as strong as Starswirl... Yet. But those two in particular shouldn't be vastly inferior to him, and he'd be sitting very high in planet level given this feat.
     
  4. Adamant soul Well-Known Member

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    This isn't really a power feat, more an intelligence feat. Even then Twilight only did it because she understood friendship better than Starswirl did.
    This could be legit though, now we just need Sunset to get some sort of statement or feat to scale to this and I'll be happy. :maybe
     
  5. Volt manta The Librarian

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    Well, Sunset was Twilight's superior during the period they were both tutoring under celestia, but she hasn't done anything magic related for years while Twilight's been training. Not to mention, she's been stuck in the human world so long she has to remember how to use magic.

    Sort of a plothole, though, considering she was apparently perfectly capable of using teleportation in the first movie, but suddenly can't use basic levitation in the EQG series.
     
  6. Adamant soul Well-Known Member

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    Not really a plothole when you consider that it was always Sunset's plan to return to Equestria in the first movie, she never considered that world a home, just a temporary stop on her way to taking over Equestria so being able to keep her magic studies in her mind makes sense.

    Skip ahead a few movies and we have a Sunset who has friends and has barely even thought about returning to Equestria outside of one or two moments. It's easy to imagine that it's a lot harder to remember magic when she's grown so accustomed to and even enjoying life as a human.
     
  7. Foxthefox1000 Active Member

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    Wait. So Twilight in the show cam legit be Large Planet level? If so, Twilight vs Blaze seems much more even now.
     
  8. Volt manta The Librarian

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    She'd have to be literal orders of nagnitude below Starswirl not to scale, so yeah. Though, i'm pretty sure Blaze is somewhere high up in the FTL-MFTL category. Even being egregious and giving Twilight the sunlight reaction feat from the movies she'd still only come out at relativistic, so she's still getting stomped here.

    Really can't think of a fair logistical match for her tbh, with the exception of Prisma Ilya. Might be interesting to revisit sometime...:catthinks
     
  9. Adamant soul Well-Known Member

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    Whoa whoa whoa, what feat is this?
     
  10. Volt manta The Librarian

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    It's been floating around the outer community for a while now. In the movies, Twilight reacts to a shaft of sunlight before it reaches her.

    Around :38. Less inclined to accept it than others due to how "blink and you'll miss it" it is, though it'd at least be interesting to go over if I had more than basic calcing ability.
     
  11. Foxthefox1000 Active Member

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    I still think the tier of most Sonic characters are complete and utter shit here but, yeah. I'm inclined to agree Burning Blaze would still win.
     
  12. Volt manta The Librarian

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    Blaze is Star Level and MFTL here, to my knowledge. You think she's higher than that?
     
  13. Foxthefox1000 Active Member

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    Meh. I'm not as easily convinced as others on this topic. I can maybe accept his FTL speed in base, but the rest of the things just seem so shaky to me. Are we gonna rate Supers as MSS to Multiversal because the Chaos Emeralds "should" be "greater" than the FEB and have fought Time Eater and Solaris?
     
  14. Warlordgab LuNa/NaLu Captain

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    Newest DBX...

    ...and something else:
    Spoiler:

    Is Torrian still planning to complete this?
     
  15. Warlordgab LuNa/NaLu Captain

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    Leon won because he was stronger, faster, and more experienced, the animation was nice, and the next Death Battle will be:

    Dr. Strange Vs. Dr. Fate

    Ok, so new showings would make Strange the winner even if Fate has the speed advantage... or so I heard
     
  16. Imakarum Mirabilis Mad God

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    If there’s any reason Strange would win, it’s because he hasn’t gotten or reboots or loss of power lately like Fate has

    He’s still got the same level of power he’s had for years, just not his classic power set

    Fate got rebooted into a far weaker (and shittier) version of himself with the New 52 relaunch

    If it’s Pre-Crisis Fate vs Classic Strange, it’d be a toss up
     
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  17. Superman Well-Known Member

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    Leo winning was and should never have been in doubt. That was like Venom vs Bane, you knew who was winning.

    Classic Strange vs Classic Fate should make a great fight. Unless you know....they go with their wallets.
     
  18. Warlordgab LuNa/NaLu Captain

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    Thinking of ways Ben/Chad can screw this one:

    Is it possible they try to claim Strange's incantations make him a slower caster?
     
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    Anyone know the name of the song in Link vs Sora? Always thought it was so dope.
     
  20. Warlordgab LuNa/NaLu Captain

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    @Punchsplosion the next Death Battle will be Ryu Vs. Jin, try to guess how many feats they will ignore to keep Ryu at building lvl
     
  21. Punchsplosion Nerf Bat Enthusiast

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    What are you talking about? They don't need to.

    Jin > Kazuya = Akuma >>>>>>> Ryu based on Tekken 7. That's all the bullshit ammo they need.
     
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    So....another L for Street Fighter? Did these guys just absolutely suck at those games and decided to take it out on the series via Death Battle?.
     
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  23. Masterblack06 Man of Atom

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    So Dr Fate beat Dr. Strange
     
  24. Warlordgab LuNa/NaLu Captain

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    Well, some admit it was pretty much a toss-up


    BTW, here's the last DBX:


    Now I can totally picture Ben and Chad failing at SFII :laugh

    Just like @Punchsplosion said, there's no need for research. Italian Quincy said that Jin's inner demon surpasses Kazuya's, and Kazuya's true devil form matched Tekken's version of Akuma making Jin superior to Akuma as well

    Which means that the only SF characters that could beat Jin are Gouken, Oni, and possibly Oro. Ryu is as good as dead
     
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  25. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much you can't say the results were wrong considering it can go either way
     
  26. Catalyst75 Well-Known Member

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    Specific hand movements and incantations confirmed.
     
  27. 1337RedGlitchFox Well-Known Member

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    I kind of have to say they got the same "Well, Dr. Fates basically Dr. Strange but a god" with the whole Stranges best move is to fuse with Eternity while Fates basically already on that level.
     
  28. JayDox Well-Known Member

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    That battle kinda makes me want to necro my "Dr.Fate vs Marvel entities" thread, that only 1 person replied to.
     
  29. Warlordgab LuNa/NaLu Captain

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    If the battle is close that both sides have arguments to support either Strange or Fate winning, I doubt we actually need to explain how/why the most popular and loved character would've won

    Now, if Ben/Chad don't nerf Ryu to death, Akuma might be the argument they will use to justify Jin's upcoming victory... But they had Akuma as a glass cannon, so how they will factor that detail in their scaling?
     
  30. CrossTheHorizon Well-Known Member

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    Uh, pretty sure Strange is the more popular of the two. Especially given his recent movie and IW.
     
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