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Death does matter

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Duke Ysmir01, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. Duke Ysmir01 I just kept moving forward

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    Soo, many times, in many sites, i have seen people post and post again that death doesn't matter in the Dragon Ball franchise, that it has no meaning. And after Super, i can finally say, that THAT is false, for better or for worse, it does have effects.

    I admit that it usually doesn't have that physical meaning of "this character is dead and gone forever, we are never seeing him again, atleast alive" (ignoring certain characters like 16 and all of Future Trunks timeline, btw.). But it does have an effect. A psychological effect.

    Obviously, we have to realize that the people that die in Dragon Ball don't die a painless death. Krilling exploded, Piccolo was death beamed, Goku suffered an explosion to the face of absurd magnitudes when Cell went boom. It's not painless, and some of them have had to face this more than once. And this has affected them, some more than others obviously.

    And our best example? Krillin. Krillin has been traumatized for around 17 years with his death on Namek, to the point that the moment he saw Frieza during Fukkatsu no F, he was one step away from running.

    I have other examples, like Vegeta after his death on Namek, the Vegeta from before Frieza/Namek would have killed Bulma the moment she tried to give him an order. Post Namek Vegeta didn't even get THAT angry when she gave him a pink shirt and told him to suck it up. This is when the growth in the character of Vegeta went full speed ahead, this was, IMO, when he first began his road to the title of "most best developed character on all dragon ball" trully took maximum force.

    I am pretty sure that if we all tried, we could find other examples, but i am making this post too long already. So, in resume? Death does matter, and Super just gave us the last piece to demonstrate this.

    Thanks for reading
     
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  3. Duke Ysmir01 I just kept moving forward

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    This is one example too, it was this death that took out all of Yamcha's joy for fighting. Good one, captain @Blade :Mshad
     
  4. Superstars Well-Known Member

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    Death only matters when the circumstances are set for it where tension can actually impact the audience when one does finally die. Regardless if they could bring them back with magic.

    It's all about getting the audience to believe at that point in time.
     
  5. Blade DAN DAN

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    Yamcha's death might have become iconic meme material

    but

    it had quite of impact during the Saiyan Saga along with Piccolo's sacrifice
     
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  6. Superstars Well-Known Member

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    The way big green was schooling Gohan to grow as a warrior during the fight was next level development.:Mshad

    Simple and effective cause the situation was do or die now!
     
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  8. Duke Ysmir01 I just kept moving forward

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    It was a fight with such high stakes that small mistakes would cost them greatly, and they did. Nearly ALL the fighters that went to face the saiyans died, and where never the same for it.
     
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  9. Blade DAN DAN

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    btw

    Toaster 17 has been killed by Cell, killed by Buu, died against Jiren, killed by Future Trunks in the future timeline, and killed by Goku in GT

    17 has died more times than Krillin even :mjlol :mjlol
     
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    I see I inspired this thread.

    lol I stopped reading here
     
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    Only to a few people. And them people were pussies in the first place. Weak theory

    And oh yes ofc they would have some trauma from the experience but it's the same level of trauma say a severe injury or accident so this theory serves nothing new and has no value.
     
  12. Duke Ysmir01 I just kept moving forward

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    It honestly doesn't surprise me that a guy that needs to pay somebody to draw him with anime female characters to feel himself loved, and that names himself AlphaMale to hide his insecurities can't follow this level of analysis of the franchise. But if your intent here is to troll and not add to this conversation, like your last post seems to indicate, i welcome you to leave and not come back.

    >calling the Z fighters, the guys who went to fight the saiyans knowing that they had a great chance of dying, and still went because they wanted to protect their homes, pussies
    >comparing a severe injury or accident with being blown up from the inside, getting nuked to the face, dying...as if it was the same.

    Yeah, thanks for your apportation here, great debate, great points, 10 outta 10 debate.:rlynigga
     
  13. cringe lord Banned

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    Krillin is a pussy. Proof? He shakes and trembles with fear when he sees a fight, shows he's unusually more scared than literally anyone else for his age. Also in the android saga when all the Z fighters ran for the androids, Krillin stood still and was shaking with fear then he got kissed and happily took it whilst his friends were raped
    I compared the two only because the psychological effects were the exact same. If anything being in a severe injury is worse psychologically than dying in an explosion, inside or out; it's still instant if not alot quicker than being in an injury say a motorcycle accident and feeling the pain after, it's worse psychologically.
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    someone's pissed
     
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  14. Brandon Lee Green days are not gone

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    What a Wall of text
    Of course deaths in db have no meaning and super hasnt changed shit

    Tho i would like to see goku dying in super just to see what other characters would do
     
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    pictured: @Ysmir01 carrying Scotty, moments before throwing him off from a cliff




    :mjlol
     
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    And he ended up as the Saviour of the Multiverse.
     
  17. son_michael Embrace The Kai

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    That time when buu destroyed the earth and we didn't know we could just use the namekian dragonballs. Everyone died except Goku and Vegeta, talk about making the audience buy the threat.
     
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    Nah you reaching. Especially with the vegeta example.
     
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    He did stay dead for 6 years, People just moved on with their lives.

    Well, except Vegeta. His motivation to get stronger went down a level or two.
     
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    Yeah but there was a time skip during those 6 years , i would like to see 1 or 2 arcs without goku.
     
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    I love goku but when i first heard about that filler episode being real in which hit or other GoD had arrived to earth just to kill goku i was kinda excited , i wanted Goten Gohan Vegeta and the rest of Z fighters to take the lead and see how things might have come
     
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    I stopped reading when you referenced that garbage ass retelling of RoF
    My ^ (use bro) Krillin didn't try to run in the movie
     
  24. Longrod von Hugendong Goku's Biggest Fan

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    Considering that Goku has died many times, it has lost its impact on me. I in fact expect Goku to die many more times before the series is over
     
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    now you speak like a true goku fan, that's the goku philosophy :kanyeshrug
     
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    It also set the tone how big of a threat kid Buu was.
     
  27. Ben Grimm Kicking the Hulk's Ass

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    This amv shows exactly why death matters in DB

     
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