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Decisions made in Naruto Franchise purely for cash grab and their negative effects.

Discussion in 'New Leaf' started by Azula, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. Azula .

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    Section needs more activity. :pek

    So now we have had enough discussions about Boruto being a cash grab, what about it's predecessor? Did Naruto took such negative turns that were done simply for cash grab and ultimately harmed the quality of the manga? :doge

    Decisions that you feel were just to get more sales- Manga/Anime/Movies and not necessarily a natural flow of the story, felt forced to you etc.

    Things like blatantly copying other manga/anime to pull more readers/viewers.

    Question is a little different from just what is bad with Naruto. I hope I was clear.
     
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    Definitely, here's a list:

    1) Shippuden as a whole essentially became a cash grab as the plot gradually got more and more retarded to keep the most popular of characters in spotlight.

    2) The Last Naruto movie - one of the most deceptively advertised products in this franchise just to push a bland pairing. By advertising K11, Sasuke, Kakashi and Gaara as well as claiming it would conclude the series and characters

    3) Naruto's war arc transformations - this was clearly an attempt to copy DB super saiyans. Kishi ran out of ideas. Also, Minato's random ass transformations.

    4) Killer Bee dude - horribly stereotypical american black, probably done because they realised how popular Naruto was amongst american blacks.

    5) Pairing baiting in the anime and movies before the last.

    and more.
     
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  3. Abcdjdj1234 Well-Known Member

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    Gaiden

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  4. Aduro Definitely not a villain.

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    Yeah, the whole decision to drag out the final arc with filler about a year after it stopped being necessary. Last Volume came out October 2015. The anime put 38 episodes of filler in-between that and the animation of Chapter 700 and didn't finish the anime until over a year later. Not to mention all the flashbacks and reaction shots jammed in before we could get the two well animated episodes that were the final battle.

    Frankly the entire anime suffered from being padded out very early on. The whole of Part 1 would be better condensed into under 50 episodes. But that would sell a hell of a lot less DVDs. Maybe if they remade it from scratch that would sell DVDs too.
     
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    Pretty sure the only confirmed such case was the wind/zombie duo arc being rushed to bring Sasuke back, since sales were supposedly dipping. Hidan was even supposed to have extra abilities but they were scrapped.

    Not a cashgrab, but Naruto suddenly becoming relevant in the Pain arc was due to people complaining that he wasn't the main character in his own manga. I'm pretty sure Gaiden exists because many fans asked for a Sasuke and Sakura story too. (Don't wish on a monkey paw kids.)

    Outside of that, there's nothing I'd consider a cashgrab aside from the Boruto manga and anime. I'm willing to bet Hamura, Kaguya and the whole Otsutsuki/aliens thing was introduced for the sole purpose of facilitating a potential continuation though.
     
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  6. Raiden (ノಥ益ಥ)ノ(ノಥ益ಥ)ノ(ノಥ益ಥ)ノ

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    I was always thought a big problem with the story is that it's defined as "Sasuke vs. Naruto." Trying to have them fight at the end led to a lot of angles that felt forced, which include: a. Sasuke suddenly having the ability to fight several kages. b. Sasuke's seemingly random interest in wanting to become kage. c. the characters randomly getting energy at the end of the war to fight each other one last time.

    I think these particular plot developments were strange...not sure if I would call an extension of the series a cash grab. I think there were good intentions but horrendous executions.
     
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  7. Rifulofthewest Active Member

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    The entire war arc is extremely long as not to finish the manga and stop making money, it could be condensed into 20 important chapters, all the others are filled.
     
  8. Aduro Definitely not a villain.

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    I think since they were making a war arc they needed to make it a big event. But to do so it needed to do more interesting things with side characters. Instead of Naruto and Gaara stealing most of the limelight during the second half of the War, give a bit more time to the likes of Sai, Hinata, Neji and Lee. Maybe force Naruto into more teamwork with the Konoha 11 during the War to show him gaining leadership qualities and that he wasn't as lonely as before. Rather than having him either hog big battles or only share them with Gaara and Bee.
     
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    Yes, they should have given more prominence to the secondary characters and show how the events were developed, but it just did not happen, their actions no longer had weight in the story so they were a waste of time, they just left the environment, so that the people saw that they were not fighting just Naruto and Sasuke - even if it was so. In fact I think that the only intervention of the eleven of Konoha was Ino diverting an attack from Obito and then not doing anything else, and Negi dying for a pairing. Removing its parts would not have changed anything in the story, they were not important more, just filling.
     
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    Yes, they should have given more prominence to the secondary characters and show how the events were developed, but it just did not happen, their actions no longer had weight in the story so they were a waste of time, they just left the environment, so that the people saw that they were not fighting just Naruto and Sasuke - even if it was so. In fact I think that the only intervention of the eleven of Konoha was Ino diverting an attack from Obito and then not doing anything else, and Negi dying for a pairing. Removing its parts would not have changed anything in the story, they were not important more, just filling.
     
  11. Ghost Of The Uchiha Well-Known Member

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    The entire Kaguya arc and plot were made solely to aid the sequel (which revolves entirely around the Otsutsuki) and destroyed the manga for me.
     
  12. WorldsStrongest Dio With It

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    Boruto Next Generations

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  13. Iwanko Well-Known Member

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    Uchiha plot in the middle-latter Shippuden.
     
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    Well you can't blame people for complaining Naruto(MC) not being relevant in a series named... Naruto.

    Seriously Kishi as author was unable to keep Naruto(MC) relevant, great no one is blaming him, he as an author "accidently" made Sasuke more relevant, even better its his work his characters, so he should've done one last thing and put final nail to the coffin and change the series name to "Sasuke" so people who are reading it for Naruto(MC) can simply quit the show/manga, and people who are reading it for Sasuke can rejoice continue.

    No need to give Naruto asspull powers to be relevant ever again, wouldn't you agree?
     
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  15. Zensuki Sasuke > your fav

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    I would agree but Boruto ain't even making much :hestonpls
     
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    Guys, literally almost every sequel series is a cash grab (otherwise the author would have just done a timeskip), so calling Boruto out is unnecessary. :catshrug

    I would say the original manga didn't feature too many cash grabs aside from all of Naruto's chakra cloak transformations during the War arc.
     
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    If it isn't making enough, it would have been cancelled despite low manga sales and terrible tv ratings.
    :confusedjr
     
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    I would take that guy's post with a grain of salt since he has Uchiha bias. I searched that information and nothing came so that isn't any official information or something that Kishimoto said in interview. It's propably something he made up or his believe from reading posts on forum. :maybe
     
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    Have we read the same story? look at how many characters he's allowed to look cool in account of making Sasuke lose towards or outmatched in combat. Sasuke himself makes characters interesting by sacrificing any coolness he has to them as a character, would Lee have any fans if he didn't kick Sasuke's ass in the first bout, Same with Gaara, then Itachi, then Naruto himself got licks in with how he got power creep after power creep and the proud elemental and moral advantage over him. Then there was Killer Bee, Raikage(which up to this day effects the Naruto hentai fandom and pretty much any sakura porn with ntr raikage), Madara and the Movie villains.

    Sasuke jobbing bias is more like it. Kishimoto got a hard on when he humilated Uchiha's it seemed.
     
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    The starting date of the Boruto anime might have been an example of a cash grab with negative effects.

    The anime likely started as early as it did in order to air when Naruto was still ''hot''. The result of this is that by the time the anime finishes the Ao arc there likely won't be any Manga left to adapt.

    The anime tried to rectify this by started with a year of Academy filler but the Manga kinda ruined that by faffing about for so long and wasting time adapting a movie we already knew the plot of.
     
  21. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    We've known for a long time that when the Naruto manga ended, this section would die.

    Boruto is also tied into the lore/story of the original series, so there's not too much to discuss on that front until we get more prominent characters. Though, to be honest, you'd expect the whole Kawaki/Kara thing to do that... but it didn't.

    Being a monthly manga doesn't seem to help either. Maybe if there was a Borutoforums or something. :-(

    To answer your question. You could argue that having different continuities (manga/movie/anime/novel) is a way to do that.

    That way potential buyers would more likely get every iteration to see the differences rather than assume they only need to look at one. I'm sure around the time the Naruto manga ended, you'd notice that there were a lot of posters who never watched the anime because they already knew what happened from the manga.

    I'd even say the novels, which apparently are canon, which act as ways to expand the story- but you wouldn't know about them unless you bought them.

    Of course, you get some stupid shit like not being able to play as Momoshiki or Kinshiki in the Naruto Storm series which defies logic. :pek
     
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