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Did Kishimoto like Kakashi more than Itachi?

Discussion in 'New Leaf' started by Shazam, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    Since he gave him a rikudo power up and kept him somewhat relevant in Boruto and kept in alive during the war?
     
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    No, he relegated Kakashi’s character to appease Obito’s every action after the mask came off. We hardly recognized Kakashi as a character afterwards.
     
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  3. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    U hardly recognize DMS Kakashi? Itachi dies. Hes completely gone, at least Kakashi played a part on going and is still alive to this day.
     
  4. Ishmael I'd rather you hadn't seen that.

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    Staff should just combine the NBD with the Avenue and new leaf honestly.
     
  5. Raiden (ノಥ益ಥ)ノ(ノಥ益ಥ)ノ(ノಥ益ಥ)ノ

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    The dead characters aren't necessarily people who he likes less. He liked Jiraiya so much that he refused to bring him back with Edo Tensei, as not to mess with the story.

    I think Kakashi filled a gap in the manga. Kishimoto wanted Tsunade out but Naruto was far too young to assume a leadership position. Kakashi was prime for being a transitional leader and seems to have been a great Hokage.
     
  6. DaVizWiz ĐⱤ₳Ʉ₲Ɽ ₵Ø₥₥₳₦ĐɆⱤ

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    Itachi was the most favored character in the series from the author's standpoint. As such, Kishimoto only cared about the popularity of the works not the quality of it. Itachi was the most popular character, he celebrated him within the manga as such.

    Itachi died, but he was brought back as an Edo and got more panel time than Madara, the main villain, during that time.

    He landed the final attacks on Kabuto and Nagato, two of the top 5 most powerful shinobi in the world at the time in less than 24 hours when he should've been Kabuto's toy to begin with, and inexplicably outperformed EMS Sasuke who he shouldn't have even been in the same league with.

    In the final battle of the manga Itachi was once again brought up by Sasuke as the "True Hokage", and he was even brought up in the sequel works with Shin practically worshiping him, and getting his own novels.

    He shouldn't have been brought back as there's no way Kabuto got Itachi's DNA when the body was stored in Obito's hideout, he shouldn't have been brought up in the final battle he has no place in a debate concerning the fate of the entire world, he shouldn't have had any influence on Shin who never even met him, he shouldn't have gotten his own novels when the only other personal novels were of living shinobi (Shikamaru, Sakura, Kakashi, Gaara) post-war, he shouldn't have even been near Naruto to be Koto'd as Madara would've been the obvious choice to get the Jinchuriki and end the war first.

    Kakashi was never allowed to use Kamui when he should have against Itachi's clone, Kakuzu, Pain and Sasuke. He wasn't allowed to win against anybody after Part 1 and was called a "Scarecrow" by Obito nearing the end of the war.

    To compare him to Itachi from the author's standpoint is ridiculous. Itachi was his perfect character which is why he was an early part 2 retcon, Kakashi was his scarecrow.
     
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  7. AJBeckyBlissRollins Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, what do you mean by scarecrow exactly?
     
  8. DaVizWiz ĐⱤ₳Ʉ₲Ɽ ₵Ø₥₥₳₦ĐɆⱤ

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    Always in the mix giving the opponent fits, but never allowed to succeed, until the final battle when he was possessed by Obito.
     
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  9. Sequester Not Banned

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    Of course not, he killed him off because he likes him more. The ol' better to burn out than fade away motif.

    It is no secret that Itachi is the golden boy of golden boys, even his dumbass mistakes are given a positive spin... He has the best PR team in Naruto history.
     
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  10. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

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    Kishi likes Itachi more than his own mom.
     
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  11. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    Itachi never stayed alive. Despite being such an important character? Itachi never got perfect susanoo, but a non uchiha did,despite being such an important character? Itachi is not in boruto but kakashi is, despite being such an important character?
     
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    If I recall correctly Kishi compared himself to Shikamaru as in kind of dorky.

    Then he brought up Itachi as the cool guy he wasn't. Noting he was "too perfect"

    So apparently he preferred Itachi over himself.
     
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  13. DaVizWiz ĐⱤ₳Ʉ₲Ɽ ₵Ø₥₥₳₦ĐɆⱤ

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    Shino stayed alive.

    No, but Itachi got Izanami and Koto, asspull perfect counters to Kabuto who he wasn't allowed to kill.

    Shino is in baruto.
     
  14. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    We're speaking of relevant characters. Shino was never one. Iruka is in boruto

    Either way Kakashi got the ultimate power up in rikudo . A non Uchiha of all things. He even was made a parallel to Obito who was Itachi's superior
     
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    Orochimaru lived, Orochimaru is in Baruto, Kishimoto wrote Orochimaru admitting inferiority and implied Itachi alone would've helped him take care of Akatsuki and Konoha

    For a short duration through Obito, not even his own power.

    Obito called Kakashi nothing more than a scarecrow. Kakashi worshiped Minato, Obito killed Minato when he was 14.
     
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    No. I don't there are many characters Kishi liked more than Itachi.
     
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    I'm pretty sure Kishi loved writing Jiraiya and he got beaten, killed, and quickly overshadowed/trivialized by his student one arc later. Liking a character doesn't mean Kishi would just give them free powerups.

    Kakashi got that powerup to put him in line with his students and to make it more believable that he'd become Hokage over one of the other powerhouses. Itachi had to die for Sasuke's story to happen. What happens with Kakashi in Boruto is in the hands of the producers, the anime writers and Kodachi, not Kishi. He didn't play much of a role in the Boruto movie or the other spinoff chapters Kishi wrote.

    But yea, Kishimoto has shown plenty of love for Itachi but I think he liked Kakashi a bit more. Judging by the time spent on his backstory and how he shows up in pretty much every arc in the series.
     
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    Itachi is on a pedestal all to himself, and surviving and getting a powerup that doesn't even last is not Kishi's way of saying he favours a character, let alone more than another character, let alone more than Itachi of all characters.

    Itachi was dead and still getting wanked even until the end. The man was called the true Hokage, and his life and it's meaning was debated by the two main characters the way believers debate their interpretation of scripture during the final fight of all things.

    Some literal who that never even met Itachi sucked him off in Gaiden. Itachi being wanked by everything that breathes is what gives the impression that he's Kishi's favourite. Kakashi after Kaguya went right back to being useless. That's not something that's ever befall Itachi.
     
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    Kakashi got the better powerups compared to Itachi, in the end. So I'd say Kakashi is Kishimoto's favourite character.
     
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    His favourites change from time to time.

    At one point Bee and Choji were his favourites,and we see that Bee didn't steal the spotlight throughout the war.

    He might like Kakashi more. He might not. Only he can answer that. For what it's worth, Kakashi is a better written character.
     
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    Dude became Hokage despite losing the crux of his powers. Save your lewd remarks for the Blender.

    :kksharing
     
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    Not likely.

    The thing is characters like Gai and Kakashi getting massive boosts is because the story is ultimately about the living characters.

    As a writer, he can't allow the long dead dead characters to outshine the living ones all the time.

    It's also why Madara got the boot while Obito got much more better treatment as a villain (proper time spent on Obito while Madara tossed aside).
     
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    The characters Kishi most liked seem to be Naruto, Sasuke, Lee, Shikamaru, and Obito :thunk
     
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    I still think Kishi loves the Uchiha in general.
    But I wouldn’t mind him giving more love to Kakashi hehe
     
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    There's no way kishi liked hospital patient Kakashi more than our lord Itachi.
     
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    Of course he did! He like both Kakashi and Jiraiya more than he like Itachi, this goes without question. It doesn't matter if everybody in the series lathers undeserved praise on Itachi, if the audience knows he doesn't deserve it. It's like if everybody said Mizuki (the chunin that tried to kill Naruto at the beginning of the series) was the best shinobi ever, when we all know he was fodder.

    1. Itachi made dumb decisions his whole life, he did little to deserve his praise as a genius. If Kishi really did love Itachi he would have actually had Itachi make smart and reasonable decisions.
    2. Itachi wasn't a genius when it came to combat or creating jutsu. The jutsu he created were nothing special (I don't think it was confirmed he ever created a jutsu) and there was nothing genius about his combat tactics.
    3. Kishi gave all, but one of Itachi's most powerful MS jutsu to Sasuke and the one he didn't give away is useless on Uchiha. Everything that made Itachi special was given away to other Uchihas, who could do it better. He never elaborated on Itachi's Susanoo's special tools limits either.
    4. Itachi is nothing without his sharingan, his base nigh fodder. If Kishi really wanted to make Itachi a genius he should have gave him better base jutsu and better decision making skills. It's not that hard to make him a genius. What did he give him? The most useless jutsu in the entire series, Izanami. This jutsu is retarded :lmao.

    Kakashi may have not been the most powerful for most of his career, but his character wasn't ruined, by making him retarded like Itachi was. His strongest form is leaps and bounds ahead of Itachi. He had decent decision-making skills and he actually created powerful jutsu such as raikiri and purple lightning on his own.

    It should be obvious to you guys that Kishi didn't like Itachi.
     
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    I don't even think Kishi loves his wife or kids as much as he loves Itachi....christ man he slaughtered his own family despite knowing there might have been other ways but he was jerked off since then as big of a ninja jesus as naruto.
     
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