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Did Sasuke forgive Obito?

Discussion in 'House of Uzumaki' started by Gin Ichimaru's Shadow, Jun 13, 2018.

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    Interesting concept. I personally don't think that it matters to Sasuke. Obito slaughtered the Uchiha clan; so did Itachi. Itachi was a 'victim' of 'Senju', so was Obito (even if on Madara's behalf). Sasuke wrote it all off; even if all of that happened, his plan was to create the world anew. So to him, Obito and Madara are probably just remnants of the past; obstacles which stood in his way, and no longer stand in his way.

    I wouldn't say he forgave Obito, but I don't think he condemns him either. If Obito were revived, for example, I don't think Sasuke would consider him anything other than a military ally. That's just who Sasuke is. True, he's a very emotional person, but he's also a revolutionary, and he wants to help Naruto change the world; as a tool to that aim, Sasuke would cooperate with Obito.

    My answer would probably change if Sasuke hadn't cooperated with Obito after knowing he assisted in the massacre.
     
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    I wanted to ask about that long time ago. However, I created series Villages Battle Royal(little World Cup for 2nd strongest Village in Narutoverse) and completely forgot about that. When I was choosing new avi, I reminded myself about that.
     
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    Kinda pissed at Kishi for leaving so many plot points open/unanswered. Like can’t leave important things to implications.
     
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    But without that, we couldn't argue, create match-ups and talk about stupid stuff:gar.
     
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    That’s why I still stay here :catcry I need closure lmao
     
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  8. Hi no Ishi Well-Known Member

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    Sasuke was perfectly happy to kill Obito during the war, but afterward when his will of fire (Hi no Ishi!) came back he seemed to let go of old grudges.

    Except kinda for Naruto, but that's another thing.
     
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    He shouldn't worry, coz Naruto has never beat him on panel(unless you count his half offscreen win)
     
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    Maybe, maybe not. Or just forgot about it.
     
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    Sasuke would have died on the hospital rooftop and he knows it.

    He also admits to losing VotE 2. And that he had been chasing Naruto for a long time as well.

    He tried to kill Naruto and failed, Naruto tried to beat some sense into him and succeeded, that's called winning.


    He also was awake the whole while Sasuke slept.
     
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    He admitted, that his conception lost. I know that Naruto is stronger. However, he doesn't have any clear win.
     
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    They are equals though.
     
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    Sasuke stated, that he had needed Beasts to fight with Naruto. However, he admitted that he lost(in conceptions' fight).
     
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    Show me the panel. I never read him stating that.
     
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    I will post panel about Beasts later.
     
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    I'll wait. I never objected your statement that Sasuke admitted defeat(in the fight of ideologies) though.
     
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    I found it :) .
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    It doesn't prove Naruto being stronger than Sasuke though. Specifically this one.

    Sasuke was running out of chakra so he thought he needed bijus to fight Naruto. Doesn't take away the fact that he equally fought Naruto through it all. Additionally even in the same fight, It was also stated that Sasuke's rinnegan was restricted during the fight with the excuse of it being new(Couldn't show the panel since I couldn't find it in the right place though I am sure you would know. It was when Kurama was talking to Naruto before the final clash in chapter 698). Would it mean that Sasuke is stronger now?

    It has already been stated in the Boruto the movie(and recently in Boruto sd) that Naruto and Sasuke are equals/on par with each other. Case closed.

    And this is my final reply to this argument since I don't want to get stuck in another idiotic Naruto vs Sasuke discussion.
     
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    I see. Do as you want:).
     
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    There’s a clear difference between losing in terms of belief and losing in terms of physicality. Sasuke lost in the former, his ideology was defeated. However they both ended up in the same circumstance, so in prowess they’re equal.
     
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    Also you've got to take into account each one's aims. Sasuke needed to kill Naruto, then assassinate the Gokage, undo the Infinite Tsukuyomi and become the shadow fanning the flames and feeding on the ashes. Naruto had to incapacitate Sasuke. Sasuke had much more that he needed to do, and his ambition was more challenging than Naruto's immediate goal of preventing Sasuke from meeting it. That's one of the reasons their stalemate ended up with Naruto 'winning'.
     
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