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Digimon Tier List - Part 1

Discussion in 'Meta-Battledome' started by Tazmo, Apr 1, 2012.

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  1. Calamity when it strikes you're out

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    I feel compelled to reply to this. :maybe

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    Because of completely disregarding levels :zaru

     
  2. RandomLurker Quick Brown Fox

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    Certain reworkings to the tier list. Please suggest any changes you see appropriate.
    Spoiler:

    Tier 0 (High multiversal)
    - God
    - Zeed Millenniumon (games)
    - ENIAC
    - ABC

    Tier 1 (Low multiversal)
    - Zeed Millenniumon (XW manga)
    - Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode (anime)
    - Shoutmon X7 Superior Mode (manga)
    - Darkness Bagramon

    Tier 2 (Top universal)
    - Moon Millenniumon (games)
    - Millenniumon (games)

    Tier 3 (High universal)
    - Alphamon Ouryuuken
    - NEO
    - Ultimate Khaosmon
    - Chronomon Holy Mode
    - Chronomon Destroy Mode

    Tier 4 (Mid universal)
    - Victory Greymon
    - Zeed Garurumon
    - Xros Up Arresterdramon Superior Mode (Brave Snatcher)
    - Death-X-mon
    - Quartzmon
    - Alphamon
    - Omegamon X
    - Bagramon w/ Code Crown
    - Exo Grimmon
    - Ulforce V-dramon Future Mode

    Tier 5 (Low universal)
    - Gaiamon
    - Barbamon + Yggdrasill
    - Yggdrasill
    - Susanoomon (all chosen children)
    - Demon Super Ultimate
    - Imperialdramon Paladin Mode
    - Lucemon Satan Mode (Frontier)
    - Huanglongmon (profile ver.)
    - Chrono Grimmon
    - Apocalymon (suicide bomb)

    Tier 6 (Multi-dimensional/Planetbusting+)
    - Bagramon (anime)
    - Susanoomon (two chosen children)
    - Lucemon Falldown Mode (Frontier)
    - D-Reaper
    - Grimmon
    - Algomon Ultimate (XW manga)
    - Bagramon (manga)
    - Omegamon (XW manga)
    - Shoutmon EX6
    - Tactimon (manga, unsheathed)
    - Shoutmon X7 (manga)

    Tier 7 (Dimensional/Planetbusting)
    - Shoutmon X6
    - Dynasmon (XW manga)
    - Blastmon (manga)
    - Shoutmon DX (manga)
    - Millenniumon (XW manga)
    - Shooting Starmon
    - Omega Shoutmon (manga)
    - Zeke Greymon (manga)
    - Raptor Sparrowmon
    - J?ger Dorulumon
    - Atlur Ballistamon

    Tier 8 (Small dimension busting/Life wiping)
    - Lilithmon (XW manga)
    - Dark Knightmon (manga)
    - Tactimon (manga, sealed)
    - Shoutmon X5 (manga)
    - Ulforce V-dramon (XW manga)
    - Craniummon (XW manga)
    - Duftmon (XW manga)
    - Lord Knightmon (XW manga)

    Tier 9 (Continent busting)
    - Arkadimon Super Ultimate
    - Clockmon (Hunters)
    - Grand Generamon
    - Shoutmon X7 (anime)
    - Apollomon
    - Gravimon Darkness Mode

    Tier 10 (Country busting)
    - Venom Vamdemon (Hunters)
    - Lucemon Child (Frontier)
    - Kaiser Greymon
    - Magna Garurumon
    - Dynasmon (Frontier)
    - Lord Knightmon (Frontier)
    - Cherubimon (Frontier)
    - Gravimon
    - Armagemon
    - Shoutmon DX (anime)
    - Death-X-DORUgoramon
    - Zamielmon

    Tier 11 (Multi mountain range busting)
    - Muso Knightmon
    - Olegmon
    - Dukemon Crimson Mode
    - Omegamon (Adventure)
    - D-Reaper ADR-01 Juri Type
    - Splashmon
    - Neo Vamdemon
    - Omega Shoutmon (anime)
    - Zeke Greymon (anime)
    - Omegamon (X-evolution)
    - Dorbickmon
    - Dukemon X (X-evolution)
    - Magnamon X (D-Cyber)

    Tier 12 (Mountain range busting+)
    - Dukemon (X-evolution)
    - Tactimon (anime, giant)
    - Banchou Leomon Burst Mode
    - Dukemon (Savers)
    - Craniummon (Savers, fully armed)
    - Sleipmon
    - Dynasmon (Savers)
    - Shine Greymon Burst Mode
    - Mirage Gaogamon Burst Mode
    - Ravmon Burst Mode
    - Rosemon Burst Mode
    - Duftmon (Savers)
    - Lord Knightmon (Savers)
    - Tactimon (anime, unsealed)
    - Shoutmon X5S
    - Shoutmon X5B
    - Super Dark Knightmon
    - Blastmon (anime)

    Tier 13 (Mountain range busting)
    - Dark Knightmon (anime)
    - Shoutmon X5 (anime)
    - Metal Greymon (XW anime, post-TS)
    - War Greymon X
    - Metal Garurumon X
    - Arresterdramon Superior Mode
    - Dukemon (Tamers)
    - Beelzebumon (Tamers)
    - Belphemon Rage Mode

    Tier 15 (Multi-mountain busting)
    - Shoutmon X4B
    - Chaosdramon
    - Shine Greymon
    - Mirage Gaogamon
    - Ravmon
    - Rosemon
    - Apocalymon (w/o suicide bomb)
    - Belial Vamdemon

    Tier 16 (Mountain busting)
    - Shoutmon X4K
    - Shoutmon X4S
    - Piemon
    - Black War Greymon
    - Imperialdramon Fighter Mode
    - War Greymon (Adventure)
    - Metal Garurumon (Adventure)
    - Mugendramon
    - Metal Seadramon
    - Venom Vamdemon (Adventure)
    - Shoutmon X4 (anime)
    - Metal Greymon (XW anime, pre-TS)
    - Aldamon
    - Beowolfmon
    - Duskmon
    - Pinocchimon (Adventure)
     
  3. RandomLurker Quick Brown Fox

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    Also, wanted to post this.

    Tailmon could be the same from Adventure? Take that as you will :zaru
     
  4. Calamity when it strikes you're out

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    It was implied in the final chapter that the Wizardmon is the same as the one from Adventure.
    Also, the Yggdrasil mentioned in this manga is apparently the same as the one from Savers and it played a role in the creation and division of the Digital World into 108 zones.
    Take that as you will.
     
  5. ~BLAZxBLUE~ Legendary Tamer

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    Wasn't more or less confirmed to be the Adventure Tailmon in the Bonus Chapter?
     
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  6. Hououin Kyouma Mad Scientist

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    Kaiser Greymon and Magna Garurumon are above Armagemon in that list, that really can't be right.
     
  7. ~BLAZxBLUE~ Legendary Tamer

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    Except Dynasmon is a confirmed Continent buster.









    Kaiser Greymon and Magna Garurumon are both stronger than him by EOS.
     
  8. Hououin Kyouma Mad Scientist

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    The lack of feats for the Adventure verse is disturbing, if we go by powerscale then Armagemon should be much stronger than those guys but the lack of feats is what stops him from going up in that tier list.
     
  9. ~BLAZxBLUE~ Legendary Tamer

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    I agree more or less.
     
  10. Adamant soul Well-Known Member

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    True enough, but hey look on the bright side Adventure had a cameo of Zeedmilleniumon and he's the top of the food chain where it applies to Digimon.
     
  11. RandomLurker Quick Brown Fox

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    The only powerscaling Armagemon has is being stronger than Omegamon and weaker than Faildramon Plot Mode.
     
  12. Weiss dog = god

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    Adevnture Omegamon got stronger over the years after Adventure, right ? :hmm
     
  13. Adamant soul Well-Known Member

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    Well the there is still the rumour that Omegamon from the Xros Wars Manga may or may not be Adventure Omegamon. :maybe

    Otherwise sadly we don't know, he seemed pretty much equal to his first appearance when he fought Armageddemon as far as I could tell and if he was stronger there isn't any way to know how much.
     
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    Apokarimon is a highly impressive digimon who is sadly underestimated.

    He should be pretty awesome after taking a Speed Equalizer x1.

    So is Imperialdramon. Will mention the stuff about him later(cause I hate him). He should have the best speed feats in the entire season.

    Some more impressive stuff from Movie 3:






    Wendimon turned the void into a nice summer day with a sun.
    Wendimon, according to official info, can create his own dimension, manipulate space-time, and freely pass through dimensions - he did this in the movie, which confirms his profiles to be true. And it is only an Adult. (Champion level for you dubbers) :geg
    Cherubimon can do everything he can do and MORE.
    Speaking of Cherubimon:

    Hikari: This is still our world. The world was modified, for that Digimon's sake


    Cherubimon pretty much modified the entire world. Likely Planetary/dimensional reality warping.
    I'd say >>>Frontier Cherubimon.

    All credits to you-know-who for bringing this to attention. (slightly modified)
    More coming up later.

    I'll end this post with a profile of a powerful ultimate Digimon:
     
  15. Weiss dog = god

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    want GranDracmon and Fanglongmon feats :datass


    and that 'God' of the verse
     
  16. Calamity when it strikes you're out

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    Dunno about the 'God' of the verse but that god entity mentioned in Bagramon's profile has been revealed in the manga.
     
  17. Tranquil Fury The Only Thing I know

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    That info was probably mentioned in the thread but really?Who was it?
     
  18. Calamity when it strikes you're out

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    Homeostasis.
     
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  19. Tranquil Fury The Only Thing I know

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    So
    -Manga is an alternate timeline judging by Bagra's comment on Taiki
    -Drasil is the same as Savers?Homeostasis
    -Digimon could once evolve more commonly
    -Homeostasis was created by Drasil?

    ?Not sure I quite understood the parts with Drasil but interesting.
     
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    Figured I'd probably mention this stuff now that the calc is done.


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    We've had this for a while now but were unsure of how to interpret it:





    The XW Digital World is vastly different from the other digital worlds. Levels don't exist, it was broken into zones, older than the RW, etc.
    The Digital World was usually considered secondary in other seasons with it being formed from the split of the RW but in here, it is pretty much the opposite.
    So didn't know whether to regard that as comparison between just the main planets of both worlds or the entirety of the worlds.

    Then we get this from the translated manga:
    To summarize:

    • Our universe, just one of the 108 zones/dimensions in the Digital World.
    • Exists at a structural level/plane higher than ours.
    • All the processing resources of our universe not enough to simulate/host it.
    • There might still be stuff in the final bonus chapter which is yet to be translated.
    • The Digital World is older than the RW and also much much larger.
    • Our universe was most likely a part of the Digital World itself before it broke up into zones.
    • Map of the Digital World from the manga(includes the HW):


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    We've got a calc for how big the DW is compared to the RW. (Credit to ChaosTheory123)
    Spoiler:

    tl;dr: The XW Digital World is about 142 times larger than our universe!!!


    So to summarize:
    In total, there are 108 zones.
    One of them is a confirmed universe.
    Leaves us with 107 zones.
    If we could get the number of zones which are below universal size(island, continent,etc), we could probably subtract it from the total.
    I believe there were about 30-40 zones shown in the anime/manga which were about island-continental level.
    107-30=77.
    If this calc puts the universes at 142, it would mean most of the other zones are universe sized or even exceed it. :hmm


    3
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    So, what changes with this new info? It means we are getting more multiversals. :ho
    No kidding.

    The XW Digital World can be pretty much considered a multiverse in which our universe occupies just a small portion.
    Basically, some feats are now much more impressive than before and we're going to need to revisit some feats and also work on the newer ones from the manga.
    The XW manga is supposed to be just an alternate timeline so the universe should be the same.


    MOST IMPORTANT!!! MUST READ

    Spoiler:

    WARNING:
    DON'T CREATE A THREAD USING THESE CHARACTERS FOR NOW.
    DON'T EVEN CREATE A VERSE VS VERSE THREAD. OR ONE OF THOSE MULTIVERSAL COUNTING GAMES.
    IN FACT, DON'T DO ANYTHING.

    You'll die. :sun

    There's still some shit that needs to be posted and some stuff that needs to be sorted out.
     
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    I'm going to cover some stuff. Whatever I didn't(like the stuff about Mille) will probably be handled by the others.

    New and revised feats
    (mostly the upper tiers)

    • Bagramon with CC(for formatting the entire Digital World, anime). Multiversal.
    • DarknessBagramon(D5, anime). Multiversal.
    • Shoutmon X7SM (oneshotted DarknessBagramon, anime; defeated UltimateKhaosmon). Multiversal.
    • Baguramon's generals traveled throughout the entire Digital World, collecting those code crowns. Whereas Taiki and the others were collecting crowns from the smaller zones.
    • XW Zeed. Multiversal. Not as powerful as the original but still:
    • Homeostasis (One of the three gods equal in power to each other and whose fight lasted for a hundred days and caused the digital world to break up into zones, the same one mentioned in Bagramon's profile, manga). Multiversal.
    • Yggdrasil( One of the three gods, now he shows us why he's more impressive than we ever thought, manga). Apparently, the same one from Savers...I'm not even going to get into what that might entail. :maybe
    • Someone yet to be revealed (One of the three gods, see above, manga)
    • Some stuff from Bagramon:
      Not sure what to make of the above. Continuation:


      Possible Multiversals
    • UltimateKhaosmon(haven't read his part, should be a multiversal threat at the minimum, manga)
    • NEO (if that Yggdrasil stuff can be cleared)


    5
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    Digimon Xros Wars strength feat (calc by BlazXBlue)


    That's probably all for today. Someone will probably post the other stuff. :maybe

    Now you can start the discussions.

    CREDITS
    --------
    They were good people.
     
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  22. RandomLurker Quick Brown Fox

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    But you can't intermingle manga and anime canon, because they are different continuities. :zaru
     
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    It's just an alternate timeline. The universe should be the same, with pretty much the same origins.

    But yeah, I'll leave that open to discussion.
     
  24. RandomLurker Quick Brown Fox

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    There are discrepancies between the anime and manga canon, you can't wriggle out of them.

    And trying to use the anime screenshot to prove that the DW > HW? Very shaky, if not fallacious outright. Wisemon in the anime stated clearly that the area he was showing was "how much the humans are currently using of the Digital World", as in the anime continuity, the humans utilized a percentage of the DW's digital area with their information technology - in fact, IIRC Wisemon stated that it was the humans' interference that split the world, which is completely different from several manga continuity explanations. "Utilizing the Digital World" is not the same as "existing as a part of the Digital World".
     
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    Meh, I'll wait for some other opinions before laying this to rest. I'll also need to check out one or two things.
    The "continuity" part won't be much of a problem. The other stuff probably will.
    RL, you fox-you've wasted my efforts. You need an arrow to the knee. :maybe
    I'll be back. :pek

    I'd like to see that.
     
  26. RandomLurker Quick Brown Fox

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    It's 54 episodes, this is going to take some time. :zaru
     
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    I'll talk about some stuff soon - just woke up. :zaru
     
  28. RandomLurker Quick Brown Fox

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    You just saved me a lot of effort :zaru

    In any case, basing arguments on faulty conjectures is something I don't want to see people doing around my watch :pek:gun
     
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    Hey, Fox-kun was supposed to provide those. :pek

    Also, I doubt you guys noticed but I posted some more stuff other than the universal-multiversal stuff.
    Go read that.
     
  30. RandomLurker Quick Brown Fox

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    It does not matter how many arguments you choose to make, I'll crush them all!!

    But really, I already basically tore apart the first 4 points like wet tissue paper (:maybe), the 5th one is solid but not really overly notable, it just giving more accurate numbers to a previously established feat.

    :canttouchthis
     
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