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Does hair color determine prodigy/drop out

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives' started by Mezu, Oct 17, 2006.

What's going on!?

  1. There's something going on...

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  2. No, you're just imagining it.

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  1. Mezu The Guardian

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    I couldn't help but notice, out of the blue, that most of those labeled as genius's have dark brown/black hair, while those who have abnormal colors are labeled drop out's. This does not apply to feminine characters since Kishimoto spices them up whether they're good or not. Here are some/most cases:

    labeled characters: 12 (darker haired) / 21 (total labeled)

    Labeled Geniuses(Clearly labeled as geniuses)
    -Neji
    -Sasuke
    -Orochimaru
    -Itachi
    -Shikamaru
    -Saru
    -Kakashi
    -DeiDei (Manga chapter states)
    -Haku
    -Sasori
    -Gaara
    -Yondaime

    Saru, Shika, Itachi, Oro, Sasuke, Haku, Neji have dark brown/black hair (7/12 in favor of dark brown/black).

    Assumed Geniuses(Those who have shown amazing abilities/strength at young ages, but are never actually pointed out to be geniuses)
    -Kisame

    Kisame, blue/dark hair (1/1 in favor of colored)...

    Clearly Dropouts(Clearly labeled Dropouts)
    -Jiraiya
    -Naruto
    -Gai
    -Lee
    -Obito

    Jiraiya, Naruto have colored hair (3/5 in favor of dark brown/blackl).

    Possible Dropouts(Those who have discoloured hair, but have not been recognized as either)
    -Zetsu ...
    -Hidan (lacks shinobi skills, overuse of ritual)
    -AL ..

    Hidan is a one trick pony, with sloppy skills as shinobi, he happens to have colored hair. The other 2 we don't know anything about.
    Ok, the likelihood of Zetsu and the AL being dropouts is slim, but I'll keep them here until we actually know there not (3/3 color) :)

    Anomalies
    -Kakashi
    -Sasori
    -Gai
    -Lee
    -Dei
    -Obito
    -Yondi
    -Gaara


    Overall, it seems as though Kishimoto labels black haired nin geniuses, this doesn't mean that all black haired nin are geniuses. There are very few exceptions to this, as to the reasons why... is it cultural? Bias? Fav color? hmm..

    Anyone else think their's something fishy going on as to why most geniuses have black (japanesesque hair) while dropouts tend to have colored hair?

    PS: If there are any I have forgot don't hesitate to post them down and I'll include them in this post. This thread is also not intended to be bias in anyway or to hate on Kishimoto, just analyzation... take it as it is.

    Edited:
    -Moved Dei to genius, thanks to mustang (even if he's a one-trick pony!).
    -Yondi out of drop out, guess my memory is shot
    -Gaara, Saru, Haku and Sasori added to stated genius
    -Lee moved down to drop out, since he is originalyl named one and arguably "genius of hardwork" isnt much of a title.
    -Dark brown/black hair is one category, the other is colored... why, because dark brown/black are very similar and the major hair colors of japanese, not racist!
     
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  2. Fulla Toilet Cleaner

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    Yondaime was a dropout?

    Where does it say that
     
  3. Mezu The Guardian

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    It's in the "Sanin arc", Tsunade states some stuff and so does Jiraiya.
     
  4. Fulla Toilet Cleaner

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    which chapters sorry?
     
  5. Sai_What Custome title? How troublesome

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    haha, thats very deep...but all of the Uchiha clan has black hair, not all are geniuses (Obito, anyone?)
     
  6. mustang BOOM

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    Yondaime was noted to be smart, popular, and talented. DOesn't seem like a drop-out to me. Lee=drop-out btw. Deidara was called a genius in a chapter cover.
     
  7. Superb Herb Follower Of Jesus Christ

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    Maybe geniuses are not so good. Cause I don't know about you but I would rather be in the dropout group with Yondiame. Seems like the geniuses would have a problem with him and Jiraya. No?
     
  8. Shizor It's been fun, Simon.

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    Neji = brown hair
    Kisame = Blue hair
    Sarutobi = brown hair
    Lee = Dropout
    Gai = not a dropout
    you = fail
     
  9. Kormac Member

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    I would argue the fact that Gai is not a drop out :).

    Unless a reference can be given otherwise :).
     
  10. ZABUZA = GOD! Destroyer of worlds

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    Ya but those with blone hair are the best hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha
     
  11. Sasaki Kojirō Active Member

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    Haha, Add Hinata and Obito(black hair) as dropouts and I agree. Shikamaru has brown hair too I believe.
     
  12. Shishi-O Oda Is God

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    is this,...*throws hands up and walks away*
     
  13. Devil King Sanji Blood Flow of Dawn.

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    Deidara no shinobi skills? Lol.
     
  14. kuchiyoseNOjutsu Badass

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    You labeled yondaime as "Clearly Dropouts"?
     
  15. Mezu The Guardian

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    I would go back and check the manga, but unless my memory is totally shot, which I may argue it is, Tsunade states that Naruto is less than Yondaime, who she speaks badly of... clumsy, etc. (clumsy, etc.. is associated with dropout, ie: naruto, jiraiya). Being a dropout does not mean you suck in anyway, clearly proved by Yondi and Jiraiya and probably Naruto later on.

    He hasn't displayed anything except flying around on a bird and throwing hominh bombs, your telling me that's displaying shinobi skills? Lol.

    Going by the manga,
    Neji = dark/black
    Kisame = dark/black
    Lee = Genius of Hardwork, dark/black
    Gai = states him and Lee were once alike in that they were both dropouts, dark/black
    you = fail

    lol, i tried, ahh the agony of being wrong...

    Lee + Gai talk during Gaara vs. Lee (manga)

    Above ^^, guess I'll move him, but he doesn't seem like one to me...
     
  16. Rhaella nothing but the rain

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    Ehh... when it comes to our lovely inbred clans, it's kind of a given that they're all going to have the same hair colour, so mentioning various Uchiha and Hyuuga as evidence is a bit unfair.

    To me, it seems more plausible that characters who are similar to each other or supposed to be linked together (Orochimaru and Sasuke, perhaps. Yondaime, Jiraiya, and Naruto, definitely) would have a similar look. So there could be something going on with the colours, but I doubt it's power itself, per se.
     
  17. ANBUBooBoo Patron Saint of Cannon Fodder

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    First of all, black hair is common because this is a MANGA, made in JAPAN, by a JAPANESE person. The majority of japanese people have black or dark brown hair, hence why there may be a lot of black-haired characters.

    Second of all, you can't call Gai a drop-out without calling Lee one. It's been stated that Gai was just like Lee as a child (except it's assumed that he could use chakra to some degree). Both Gai and Lee are at their current strengths because of hardcore training. So either they're both drop-outs, or they're both "geniuses of hard work".

    Deidara has blonde hair, no? Unless I read that wrong, you state he's a genius with black hair. Kakashi isn't the only genius with light hair either. Kabuto has been called as somewhat of a protegé in medical jutsu.

    So really, there isn't much of a pattern here.
     
  18. Soljah Super Ghost

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    To me in alot of anime most of the time the Grey haired characters are usually pretty strong. grey hair , platinum hair, white haired.
     
  19. Drainz master in training.

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    she states this, in my opinion, as a possible foreshadow of what relation naruto has to the yondaime.. not in that he is how the yondaime acted when he was 12.

    and as far as Deidara is concerned, he defeated a kazekage.. and has the ability to outsmart a few ninjas in naruto, kakashi, and gaara. he may not have the same raw power as kisame, or 100 different forms sasori had, but he is definitely smart enuf to outwit his opponents while doing damage. and remember, he creates his own animals to fly and move around with, and creates his own explosives as well.
     
  20. Sexta Espada Kylahullu

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    It's a simple coincedence.
     
  21. Lazarus safer healthier people

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    White/gray hair represents wisdom O.o So no.
     
  22. Rhaella nothing but the rain

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    I hesitate to classify Kabuto as wise. XD Serving snaky masters seems like a bad idea, no matter what your purpose is.
     
  23. Lithe-Fider My brain explodes

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    As stated by others, the reason Jiraiya-3rd-Naruto-Obito are all 'dropouts' (in theory)is because they all represent the same character (each is a 'reincarnation' of the other from each generation) and yes it IS japan and in manga you only have two colors to choose from if you don't tone your work (Black, white, or cross-hatched if you count that). Your theory doesn't make a lot of sense...

    and you forgot about Shino (as per ushal with most people...) >_>
     
  24. Production hi

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    Most of them have black hair because asians do have black hair. Duh o_o
     
  25. Sexta Espada Kylahullu

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    Shino is neither genius nor dropout.
     
  26. Splintered Active Member

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    I'm near positive that a chapter cover stated that Sasori was a genius and one of his caliber made it so that people thought he was weird.
     
  27. Lithe-Fider My brain explodes

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    I always figured he was a genius ninja, like Neji or Sasuke...considering how powerful, strategic and intelligent he is, and is heir to his clan...well he's not a dropout at least, we know that much yea. XD

    And I was confused to see Lee on the list as a genius ninja (remember we mean genius as in natural born nin talent not smarts ^^), considering he is always saying "I may not be a genius like Neji but I will prove I can surpass a genius with hard work!" It was Gai that said he was a genius of hard work....which...isn't really the definition of a 'genius nin' in my opinion... o_O to go with the others on the list.

    Yea, hair color thing still is bunk, but a funny idea. :laugh
     
  28. MasamuneX7 Akatsuki Overlord

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    Your memory is totally shot.

    Different fighting style = no shinobi skills. Lol.

    Neji doesn't use shurikens or kunai. Neji =/= shinobi. Lol.

    I love your argument.
     
  29. The Pink Ninja Infamous Cocksucker

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    It never says Yondaime was a dropout.

    Gaara has light hair and he's a genius.

    Sakura's has light hair, was a genius of intelligence and chakra control but was a sucky ninja until after the skip.

    It's just coincidence. In part it's because Kishi has build lines of Shinobi:

    Jiraiya, Yondy, Kakashi and Naruto in one.

    Orochimaru, Sasuke, Itachi.

    Even that does work since Kabuto has light hair.
     
  30. atom on a Forums Break

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    Sasori > Genius

    So meh. Red is the new... ehh.. pink?
     
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