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Does the Rinnegan have any strong Genjutsu capabilities?

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Shazam, Aug 8, 2018.

  1. Shazam ⚡⚡⚡

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  2. PradyumnaR Konoha's Sublime Blue Beast Of Prey

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  3. Architect of the Works of Beauty

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    Nagato's - I don't think so.
    Madara's - only the Rinnesharingan.
     
  4. Djomla Student

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    What was that thing Nagato used when Kakashi formed the earth wall behind Deva path and tried to stab it with Chidori/Raikiri, whatever? Was that some genjutsu or?
     
  5. sabre320 Well-Known Member

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    None particularly, sasukes genjutsu feat was essentially his sharingan genjutsu amped by rikudos yin half. The mugen tsukyomi is also dependant on the shinjuu and is not exactly a rinnegan genjutsu only.
     
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    he disrupted Kakashi's chakra flow via Black Rod.
     
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    I though he did some kind of occular thing and then stabbed him with the rod.
     
  8. Architect of the Works of Beauty

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    He stabbed Kakashi with the rod because of one of the reasons:
    1) It was too fast and unpredictable for Kakashi to dodge in the position he was after finishing his Earth Wall;
    2) Kakashi intended to grab that rod from the beginning to restrain Tendo's movements.
    But Tendo did to Kakashi the same thing he did to Jiraiya - sent his chakra through the rod and make Kakashi shake and stumble while delivering the Raikiri.
     
  9. Gianfi Well-Known Member

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    Don’t think so, maybe Genjutsu resistance. You need the rinnesharingan to have Genjutsu abilities
     
  10. Sage light Well-Known Member

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    Genjutsu resistance probably. Technique wise, it have none related to illusions.
     
  11. Braiyan Well-Known Member

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    Spoiler:




    It's possible.
     
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  12. sabre320 Well-Known Member

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    Naw genjutsu traps dont have to come from the rinnegan they can be done without any dojutsu aswell.
     
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  13. Ultrafragor Well-Known Member

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    The Rinnegan, by definition, has powerful genjutsu capabilities.

    In regards to casting out of the eye, not sure if anything other than the Sharingan can do that, but even genjutsu not used by the eye would count in the end.

    The Rinnegan contains the same enhanced yin chakra that the Uchiha inherited from Hagoromo. So, genjutsu utilizing the Rinnegan would have a power boost just like all of an Uchiha's genjutsu, ocular or not, are boosted.
     
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    When in the hands of an original owner it does for damn sure.

    Otherwise? Hard to say.
     
  15. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    It does. In the case of Obito and Nagato, they just have to know that ability exists.

    Mugen Tsukuyomi is a Rinnegan Genjutsu hence the Rinnegan pattern on the eyes of the victims. Only the Rinnegan can resist that sort of illusion. Apart from that it is incredibly powerful hence Sasuke chose to use Rinnegan Genjutsu to immobilise all 9 Bijuu instead of EMS Genjutsu.

    The Sharingan generates some resistance to illusions, and it increases exponentially as it advanced. So it means the Rinnegan has thee best resistance; it gets better with the Rinnesharingan. I imagine the Byakugan, Tenseigan and Jougan likely have some resistance too.
     
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    But in this case we don't know whether Nagato did it with the Rinnegan or without, hence why I said "It's possible" instead of "yes".
     
  17. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    We don't know how Pain cast it. Going by how much focus was given to his ocular prowess, one would imagine he used his Rinnegan.

    Though, to be fair on you, Nagato was said to have mastered all chakra types, including Yin which is the Genjutsu chakra type (when not mixed with Yang or Natural Energy). Plus the fact he couldn't have access to Shinra Tensei without mastering all chakra types, including Yin.

    So what you're saying is plausible.

    Nagato-Pain never left his tower, nor did anyone in Amegakure know what Pain even looked like or that he had the Rinnegan. So, unless there were some hidden Rinnegan around it seems unlikely he used his eyes. So that can also mean he used something on all the Hidden Rain ninja, like maybe casting the illusion through his rain.
     
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    Well, Sasuke's Rinnegan can cast powerful genjutsu and the Rinnesharingan can cast MT.

    But it certainly focuses on the ninjutsu aspect far more than on genjutsu.
     
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    Well sasukes genjutsu isnt inherently related to the rinnegan it retains the genjutsu prowess of the shringan amped massively by hagoromos yin.

    Regarding Mugen it isnt strictly a rinnegan genjutsu at all , it utilizes the shinju to reflect the genjutsu via the moon, rinnegan is just one aspect of it for e.g sasuke cant do it etc.
     
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    Only Sasuke's 6T Rinnegan has shown Genjutsu.
     
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    The true owners of the rinnegan carry over the capablities of the sharingan alo9ng with genjutsu etc sasukes isnt the only one.
     
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    Its Rinnegan Genjutsu like how MS Genjutsu would be its own Genjutsu.

    It utilises the RInnegan hence the Rinnegan pattern on victims. It doesn't use the Shinju, it uses the Rinnesharingan, an extension of the Rinnegan. The Shinju is used to bind the victims of the illusion.

    He's the only Rinnegan user who bothered to use Genjutsu via the eye.
     
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    Yes, he is?

    Susano'o doesn't require eyes. So, Madara hasn't demonstrated this.

    Sasuke's RG is clearly a Sharingan as well, so saying the Rinnegan is now making the Amaterasu or genjutsu shouldn't be accurate.
     
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    If rinnegan does provide resistance, Obito wouldn't have used his own sharingan to fight against Kakashi's genjutsu's.
     
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    He didn't want Kakashi dead, he needed Kakashi to get rid of the puppet seal.
     
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    Not necessarily.

    Besides prediction, the Rinnegan appears to have the same level of chakra vision and visual enhancement as the Sharingan.

    Yet, when the shinobi alliance tried to obscure Madara, Obito, and the Juubi's vision, Obito used his Sharingan to try and see through the mist and sand. Why he would rather use a base Sharingan than a Rinnegan makes no sense. The chakra difference alone should make the Rinnegan's vision superior to the 3T Sharingan. Even if not, why would he focus with only one eye if both eyes have enhanced chakra vision?

    It seems Obito was only going with what he knew.
     
  27. Munboy Dracule O'Brian Well-Known Member

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    That and he could barley handle the Rinnegan.
     
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    Just the Rinnesharingan. As Sasuke and Madara have shown.
     
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    Yeah, and using the rinnegan costs more chakra for him.
     
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    Nah, only the Rinne Sharingan does. Though it's possible that the Rinnegan may provide some resistance to it, but there's no way to know for sure.
     
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