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Dragon Ball Convo #2: My POWER is MAXIMUM!

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Reznor, Sep 9, 2015.

Can you still accept me knowing that i was a nerd in the past ?

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  1. Reznor Administrator Administrator

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    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is Here
     
  2. Yagami1211 The Dragon of Dojima

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    Dragonball Convo #1: Le N?18 !

    テレビシリーズ初!鳥山 明オリジナル原案!
    「ドラゴンボール」テレビアニメ新シリーズ7月に放送決定!
    『ドラゴンボール超(スーパー)』
    <7月スタート 毎週(日)午前9時~9時30分フジテレビほかにて>

    Dat dank propaganda

    Saw on the Toei animation website.

    A new series called "Dragon Ball Super" ( It's the Kanji "Chou" / Super like in Super Saiyan )
    It's supposed to start in July, following the end of Dragon Ball Kai Majin Buu.

    Following the huge success of "Revival of F", a new Dragon Ball series was decided.

    The story is set after Majin Buu.

    Goku, Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Vegeta returns in an all new, never before seen adventure.

    See you un July !
     
  3. Reznor Administrator Administrator

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    I was hoping they might retcon to make Super Cyan to just be Vegeta's version of SSG.

    Though, I'm more used to SSGSS now, so I don't mind it now.
     
  4. God Movement CEO of the Corporation

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    I like it, personally.

    Who has dibs on the new convo?
     
  5. LordPerucho Well-Known Member

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    Red doesnt match Vegeta at all, :oh.
     
  6. Stunna Fix your hearts or die Retired Staff

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    Yeah, and we don't have any indication that Monster Carrot didn't land on a random planet after Roshi blew up the moon and trained to become stronger than SSJ3 Goku, but we both agree that if he suddenly showed up and was that strong, it'd be stupid.

    Basic storytelling demands that things be set up or at least foreshadowed before coming to pass; at least things that could possibly be contested by the audience for some reason.

    It is, though. When it's established that Roshi no longer has any desire to train, having him suddenly show up a decade or so later stronger without ever having even hinted that he was back at it is malarkey. I can cite reasons why he wouldn't have started training again...where are these reasons that he would have?

    Nothing would have been different. It would have been the same asinine situation as this one.

    We also knew that he'd stopped training before the 23rd Tenaichi Budokai, and that there was zero indication that he'd resumed.

    I mean, was there even a line in the RoF movie to justify his being stronger? Like someone saying "oshit, how did Roshi get this strong" and him saying "what, did you guys think I just watched yoga videos all day?"

    anything?
     
  7. Stunna Fix your hearts or die Retired Staff

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    and I mean, this really isn't the biggest deal in the world--I don't want to give the impression that I think it is...

    I just think it's silly :wot
     
  8. God Movement CEO of the Corporation

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    i just want a new convo
     
  9. The Saiyan Prince Vegeta Well-Known Member

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    I believe Toriyama stated Roshi was always as strong as he was in RoF. He just didn't bother to ever fight seriously.

    Half-assed explanation to be sure, but it proves that he didn't train at all to become as strong as he did in RoF.
     
  10. God Movement CEO of the Corporation

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    So Roshi has been toying with all of his opponents

    :bury

    Jackie Chun
     
  11. Gogeta Shape shifter

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    I always wondered why he didn't go into his buff form vs. them but i always assumed it would reduce his speed.

    huh.
     
  12. Stunna Fix your hearts or die Retired Staff

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    wow, that's an even worse justification

    this shit really is bottom of the barrel
     
  13. God أفضل صديق هو العودة

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    That's pretty bad even for modern Toriyama
     
  14. Stunna Fix your hearts or die Retired Staff

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    like, I hope you're just remembering that wrong

    because that's wholly indefensible
     
  15. God أفضل صديق هو العودة

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    Dragon Balls franchise as it is now is a complete joke
     
  16. LordPerucho Well-Known Member

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    Link for that?

    Wish Goku learns to use the Dragon Fist while training with Whiz.
     
  17. The Saiyan Prince Vegeta Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but that's definitely what Toriyama said. It's a statement from him in the Volume of F book.

    This is the best I've got for a link to a direct statement.



    I've also got a post from Herms from Kanzenshuu talking about it.



     
  18. Stunna Fix your hearts or die Retired Staff

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    huh. I guess he just didn't feel like really fighting when the Earth was threatened by King Piccolo or by the Saiyans. Understandable, I guess.
     
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    He really could have just stomped Piccolo Diamaoh
     
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    r0fl shit on raditz deep

    what about saiyan saga Vegeta?

    i don't know if i should place the soldiers a bit above or below saiyan saga Vegeta
     
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    The Freeza movie became stupider than it already was after that revelation...
     
  22. LordPerucho Well-Known Member

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    The only way to get rid of this plothole is just not letting Roshi fight, replace him with Yamcha.

    Since Gohan is the new whooping boy then Yamcha will finally win a meaningful fight?
     
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    welp didnt think it was possible for the new movies/DBS to get any worse :gglife


    I love me some Roshi fighting of course, but this "explanation" is below GT level :gglife
     
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    Since it seems like no one really cares about who won, just gonna keep this as the thread.
     
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    What an half arsed explanation, damn you Toriyama.
     
  26. LordPerucho Well-Known Member

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    If u change the title thread to Toriyama is a hack/overrated or something like that, I bet most people here will love u :maybe.
     
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    So Roshi just let Raditz and Nappa run rampant because he "didn't feel like" stopping them?

    What kind of bullshit is that? Holy crap, even by Toriyama's standards that's a pretty God-awful excuse and explanation. It's basically a retcon.

    If a new enemy appears that is stronger than Beerus (Tori's Sue Char) don't be surprised if a few weeks later he gives the same bullshit excuse of him "Not feeling like fighting."

    Just wow. >___>
     
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    Its probably one of the few things Ive disliked in the last movies.

    But it can fixed easily if Roshi doesnt fight in DBS.

    It could happen, DBS removed the stupid Trunks/Mai romance.
     
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    Good point, I guess we'll just have to see.
     
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    I really, really, really hope Roshi is retconned out of Super RoF.
     
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