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Dragon Ball Super Feats #3

Discussion in 'Meta-Battledome' started by Reznor, Dec 16, 2015.

  1. Sloth You're not alone.

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    That's how I read it.
     
  2. Crackle Banned

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    That still isn't consistent with Elder Kai being fully aware how powerful Beerus was during BOG if he had trained. If i'm not mistaken he was the one who said Beerus could destroy the whole universe which if he was weaker than Buu last time he saw him wouldn't make any sense (unless we're at that stage where we're willing to accept Universe level Buu now). That would also make Beerus back then infinitely weaker than Champa is which makes that rivalry seem unlikely Beerus would just be afraid of him. Unless Champa and every other god was weaker than Buu back then and are constantly getting stronger which was never really implied or seems to be the case.


    Well that kind of creates another continuity problem. Beerus sealed him up out of fear because of Elder Kai's ability to give other people massive power-ups n shit so this makes Beerus SSJGod hunting for a worthy opponent seem contradicting
     
  3. Gordo solos David "Gordo" Gordon

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    He technically came prepared by sealing Elder Kai away
     
  4. SSBMonado Well-Known Member

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    Uh, where did that get established?
     
  5. Crackle Banned

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  6. Gordo solos David "Gordo" Gordon

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    His "fearsome power" was to draw out unlocked potential from warriors (Ultimate Gohan)

    The whole thing with Beerus is likely a retcon
     
  7. MusubiKazesaru Moderator Moderator

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    That's actually a decent point, but I'm sure it's coincidental.
     
  8. Crackle Banned

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    Well it did happen long before Bibidi found Buu....wherever Buu was....and for whatever reason he wasn't already causing destruction
     
  9. Crackle Banned

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    In fact in hindsight couldn't they just have used Elder Kai to have Goku reach SSGod level anyway without several other saiyans?

    The amount of actual question this retcon raises is actually pretty astounding.
     
  10. MusubiKazesaru Moderator Moderator

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    The new movies, DBS, and even Toriyama's interviews have retconned quite a lot.
     
  11. Crackle Banned

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    Yeah I know but this reveal that Beerus was the one who sealed Elder Kai raises so many questions it made the reveal downright pointless and questionable

    It's like if Kishi revealed that the Mizukage that Zabuza started a coup against was really Orochimaru....the reveal itself is so pointless and raises too many questions for it to be considered good.
     
  12. SSBMonado Well-Known Member

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    There's a couple of problems with that. For one, the power up takes a full day. There's no way in hell Beerus would have waited this long. For another, there's no guarantee that the upgrade would even have boosted Goku high enough. Given that Gohan only went from small start level to slightly more small star level, while SSG got Goku from small star to multi-galaxy, I doubt it would have.
     
  13. The Saiyan Prince Vegeta Well-Known Member

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    Beerus didn't seal the elder kai because of that "fearsome power" BS the kai spoke of. Toryiama gave the actual reason in an interview. It was because they got into an argument over something trivial and since it wouldn't be proper for Beerus to blow up the Kaioshin planet he simply sealed the elder kai instead.

    http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/saikyo-jump-june-2014-issue-twel-buu-mysteries/
     
  14. Crackle Banned

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    So basically Elder Kai was sealed because he was a fucking idiot for arguing with someone like Beerus.
     
  15. Gordo solos David "Gordo" Gordon

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    That's a really stupid retcon.
     
  17. La speranza Member

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    There's potentially a pretty big speed upgrade coming with that Omni-King button. Whis said that he'd take 2 days to travel there. Zeno doesn't seem to use teleportation as method of transportation, and I doubt he'll take forever to come to Goku.
     
  18. SSBMonado Well-Known Member

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    Not really, actually. We only ever had the elder kai's statements for what happened to him. He's quite boisterous and arrogant, so it's no surprise that he didn't want to admit the truth.
     
  19. Crackle Banned

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    Was that whole fusion thing with the witch that came out of nowhere in the manga too or is that bullshit?
     
  20. NightmareCinema Okami

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    That was in the manga as well.
     
  21. SSBMonado Well-Known Member

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    So did Zamasu's master fuse with an old person, too? Cause he doesn't look much younger than the elder kai :catwave
     
  22. Gordo solos David "Gordo" Gordon

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    I have no idea what a witch was doing on the Sacred World of the Kais :catsupine
     
  23. Drake3513 Member

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    super saiyan rose hype! So when does the episode air?
     
  24. SSBMonado Well-Known Member

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    Getting a last-minute prediction in:
    SSF (Super Saiyan Fabulous) Black soundly beats Goku, Vegeta and Trunks. Just as he is about to blow up earth, Goku pushes the Zeno button. However, since they are in Trunks' future, the Zeno who appears doesn't know Goku, and is not amused about being interrupted because he was in the middle of his latest lego project or whatever.
    Black, being a kaioshin, realizes how utterly fucked they are and opens a time portal into the past to escape. Goku, Vegeta and Trunks follow just before Zeno wipes out universe 7.
    The rest of the arc is about Black teaming up with the good guys to somehow un-fuck the situation before Zeno's fit destroys all of universe 7's timelines.
     
  25. Xhominid The Avaricious

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    Wasn't that in Dragonball Z? Because I clearly remember that was in DBZ talking about Potara Fusion and why Old Kai looks the way he does.

    And by the by, either Beerus is connected to BOTH Old Kai and Supreme Kai(the East One)...or he's just connected with Supreme Kai(which makes sense since he HAS to be the only one considering Old Kai is way too cautious to leave the Kaioshin World while we've seen what Supreme Kai did at the start of the Buu Saga.)
     
  26. Worldbreaker The strongest one there is

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    Pink Goku just beat the crap out of SSJB Vegeta
     
  27. SSBMonado Well-Known Member

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    What is it with Trunks' timeline and swords?
     
  28. Dudebro Active Member

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    ...Vegeta just got prison shanked by Black Goku...

    Huh...I never thought I'd ever get to say something like that and be 100% accurate.
     
  29. Unlosing Ranger Take a Break

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    Boy something sure seems like Kami in here,
     
  30. Crackle Banned

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    ANy word on Funimation dubbing this yet?
    Obviously they are or TOEI's gonna have some problems but why the titillation?
     

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